Ice Orb Worth The Synergy From Ice Bolt?

[Odyssey316]

Ice Orb Worth The Synergy From Ice Bolt?

Welp, my sorc is already the ripe level of 75 With firewall at 20, fire mastery at 10, Ice orb at 20 and cold mastery at 10. I plan on finishing off the masteries, but at the 2% damage increase per level, is it worth putting points into ice bolt for the orb synergy damage?

 

[mathil]

unless you are making a fo/es sorc, don't get the synergy. 2% per lvl is not worth it. you can bump up your fire dmg so much more.

 

[Uzziah]

unless you are making a fo/es sorc, don't get the synergy. 2% per lvl is not worth it. you can bump up your fire dmg so much more.

firewall has no synergy, with fire mastery full and firewall/frozen orb full, why the heck not get the extra 38% increased damage to frozen orb.

You don't need it but if thats your main skill and you have completed the rest of your build why not place some points in it. Remember your getting ~300 points with slvl 20 ice bolt and no synergy so 2% is only 6 damage each. just something to ponder on. A skill point only worth 6 damage there are better options :thumbsup:

 

[TheDiceman]

I am currently making the same build and my plan once I have FW, FM, FO and CM maxed is to dump my extra points into ES and Tk for a mid range shield. At the rate I am going I will have big enough of a mana pool to make it work.

 

[stolisfashizzle8]

Um, what about cold mastery? That will give a much higher increase in damage than ice bolt if I'm not mistaken.

 

[mathil]

sorry, i didn't read the post clearly.

cold mastery does do more dmg than the synergy under one condition: the monster isn't already at -100%. most monsters have 0 cr, so a lvl 17 CM will bring them to -100. hell mephy has 150%, so lvl 27 cm will bring him to -100.

 

[Gaza0469]

firewall has no synergy, with fire mastery full and firewall/frozen orb full, why the heck not get the extra 38% increased damage to frozen orb.

You don't need it but if thats your main skill and you have completed the rest of your build why not place some points in it. Remember your getting ~300 points with slvl 20 ice bolt and no synergy so 2% is only 6 damage each. just something to ponder on. A skill point only worth 6 damage there are better options :thumbsup:

Where did u get firewall from? who are u debating that Fire wall doesnt have a synergy?

If im not mistake FO/ES is Frozen Orb and Energy Shield.


:: Is 2% worth it ::

Mathil is right - if u have a 40 ES and 40 in orb u dont really have much else to use so u might as well put in 10+ to the 2% synergy. 10 hard points will give you 20% more damage.

Remember Orb is one of those spells that doesnt really display its proper damage, I mean technically its correct, but the damage just doenst look as impressive as it really is - a 2% increase is definately noticiable. Ages ago I had a 60 poin FO sorc and I found it to be very good, especially if you also have +10 cold skills. That 40% bonus damage definately adds up very fast.

I then made a 40 point frozen orb and wasnt as impressed with it, so it does make a difference.

So when figuring out whether to use the synergy or not, dont let the small numbers put u off.

However... If you have a dual tree sorc, then its not worth it , those 20 skill points will give you more damage else where.

 

[Uzziah]

Where did u get firewall from? who are u debating that Fire wall doesnt have a synergy?

If im not mistake FO/ES is Frozen Orb and Energy Shield.

Welp, my sorc is already the ripe level of 75 [highlight]With firewall at 20, fire mastery at 10[/highlight], Ice orb at 20 and cold mastery at 10. I plan on finishing off the masteries, but at the 2% damage increase per level, is it worth putting points into ice bolt for the orb synergy damage?

from here.

my point was that he already has his fire damage at its max with 42 points spent, there is no way to raise it further in his build as mathil suggested.

unless you are making a fo/es sorc, don't get the synergy. 2% per lvl is not worth it. [highlight]you can bump up your fire dmg so much more.[/highlight]

:: Is 2% worth it ::

Mathil is right - if u have a 40 ES and 40 in orb u dont really have much else to use so u might as well put in 10+ to the 2% synergy. 10 hard points will give you 20% more damage.

Remember Orb is one of those spells that doesnt really display its proper damage, I mean technically its correct, but the damage just doenst look as impressive as it really is - a 2% increase is definately noticiable. Ages ago I had a 60 poin FO sorc and I found it to be very good, especially if you also have +10 cold skills. That 40% bonus damage definately adds up very fast.

I then made a 40 point frozen orb and wasnt as impressed with it, so it does make a difference.

So when figuring out whether to use the synergy or not, dont let the small numbers put u off.

However... If you have a dual tree sorc, then its not worth it , those 20 skill points will give you more damage else where.

It's amazing what even 1% will do in a game where there are items that have a .000001% chance of dropping.

 

[Gaza0469]

from here.

my point was that he already has his fire damage at its max with 42 points spent, there is no way to raise it further in his build as mathil suggested.

Im with ya, sorry I mis-read what you were saying and just 'assumed' u misinterpretated a previous post my apologies!

*mental note - get some glasses *

 

[mathil]

idk if glasses will help. i have them and i still missed it. although, i do need a new brain. im fairly certain this one is defective.

so ya, after your done with the fire tree, and you are happy with the lvl of cold mastery there aren't many options. you could go with ice bolt, which NOW seems like a good option. or you could get energy shield (all into telekinesis, cast ES from switch if you can).