I Need suggestions to improve my dmg...

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Galinho

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I Need suggestions to improve my dmg...

Hi all
I have a Lightning fury amazon... in the mean time it's lvl 62...
I wear atma's wail,
Titan's revenge,
Moser's blessed circle/w 2 Perf diamonds( +63 to all resistances overall), which i think will probably soon replaced with Lidless wall,
Gore riders,
Thundergod's vigor,
Mavina's icy clutch,
Valk wing sox 1( also Need an advice what to put there),
Doom mark, which is a crafted amu +1 to ama skills and a lot more bonuses,
manald heal and some other rare ring.

My overall stats (with items):
Str: 150
Dex:194
Vit: 130
Enr: 42 :)

Yeah i know my enr is low but i have no probs with it in the mean time...
and the rest stats I'll increase... I'm only 62 now...

My skills overall( With everything that gives+skills on me):
Lightning fury 23
Valk 25
all other skills in passive&magic tree is 6(all from items of course) except for dodge, that has 14, and crit strike that has 9.
In java and spear tree there are some skills that have 11, some with 9, some with 12, etc.( all from items +to ama skills and +to java and spear skills, and probably a couple of points here and there).

With all these, My ama's dmg won't raise any higher than about 1500(titan's original dmg+light fury dmg). She's still very stong in nm but I'm pretty sure she won't survive hell with such a low dmg.
Another point in lightning fury here or there is not the thing that's gonna help me raise it by a whole lot i guess... so... any suggestions???
 
Java-guide

1 word: Synergies.

edit: now that I look at the guide, it's actually a mix between PJ and LF. For pure damage, go for the synergies of LF and have a high pierce, use charged strike (max, because synergy of LF and LF is a synergy of CS) for single targets and LF for the mobs.

Javazons work best in a wide, open environment with lots of monsters stacked on top of eachother (Arcane, Cow level, non-cavelevels of a1, some parts of a5).
 
ConF said:
1 word: Synergies.
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You're kidding yourself if you think a 1% per point synergy is really going to help that much. His main problem is that he hasn't even maxed LF yet (should be slvl 29-30 with the gear he's got listed).

Even so, Charged Strike is definitely worth maxing, not for the synergy bonus but for the simple fact that it decimates single targets. But I would first try to get your Pierce a little higher. Once you get a decent chance to Pierce and learn how to angle your throws properly (piercing through as many monsters as possible, sometimes also bouncing off walls) you can really start dishing out some serious damage.

Why the points in Crit Strike? It's unnecessary unless you plan to Jab a lot, which is fine but may be weak without eth upped Titan's.

You sound like you were planning to pump energy later on... don't. Just wear some jewelery with mana leech on it (I'd aim for at least 5%). If that for some reason doesn't cut it, put an 'Insight' Polearm on your Act 2 Merc.
 
Remember that lightning fury triggers off every pierce, and the damage listed is per-bolt. So throwing into a crowd massively multiplies it.
 
Thank u all for replying.
I need an explanation on some of the things u said here.
Java-guide--- Call me a noob, but what are synergies?? :)
sorry for not understanding some words often said at the forums in here.
And about all those shortcut words- I know LF is Light fury but what is PJ?
and what is mobs?

and, from what i understand-pierce only increases the chance that the bolt will pass through enemies(which is very useful), but not the dmg itself....

And PhatTrumpet--- I did not plan to pump enr at all... I figured it's not wise but i didn't know for sure what to do about this when using a LF ama... Thx anyway! And why did u ask why did i put points in CS? It affects all dmg. Not only from Jab, but from LF as well. Anyway u r right-- I still have some points i can deal to LF, and I will, until i max it. But that's not the solution...

And plz explain---WHY MAX CHARGED STRIKE?!?!? How is it going to help me??

And btw, i do not have any points in Pierce- but it's never too late, and i just did izual on nm so i have +2 skills to put there. Do i need to max it? And i still son't understand how is it going to help improve my total dmg.
 
Galinho said:
... what are synergies??
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If you look at the bottom of some skill descriptions in the skill tree it shows how it receives bonuses from skill point investment into other skills. Lightning Fury, for example, receives a 1% boost in damage for every skill point placed in any of the following: Lightning Strike, Charged Strike, Lightning Bolt, and Power Strike. 1% isn't that great, but for other skills like Charged Strike, which I believe gets a 10% synergy bonus from other lightning skills, it makes a huge difference (20 points invested in synergy triples your damage).
... what is PJ?
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Plague Javalin. I wouldn't bother with it at this point in your build.
and what is mobs?
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You speaka engrish? A mob is a large group of objects, like an angry mob.
and, from what i understand-pierce only increases the chance that the bolt will pass through enemies(which is very useful), but not the dmg itself....
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You misunderstand a lot of things and should really do some research on your own before asking a zillion questions. Lightning Fury will release bolts every time it hits something. These bolts always pierce through monsters, there is no chance of them not doing so. It's the javalin itself that only has a chance to pierce through. The more you pierce, the more times your javalin releases bolts, and the more damage you do.
And why did u ask why did i put points in CS? It affects all dmg. Not only from Jab, but from LF as well.
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Wrong. LF is lightning damage. CS only applies to physical damage.
And plz explain---WHY MAX CHARGED STRIKE?!?!? How is it going to help me??
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I did explain. It decimates single targets and it just happens to be a synergy to LF. You're not going to be killing bosses with LF, so unless you have a better suggestion for dealing with them I suggest you max CS. When you poke a monster with CS it releases a number of bolts (maxed with your gear it'd be something like 8 bolts doing 1-2000 damage each). Now with a large boss target you can actually get all 8 of these bolts to hit one target, equalling 8-16000 lightning damage. Is that enough of an explanation for you?
And btw, i do not have any points in Pierce- but it's never too late, and i just did izual on nm so i have +2 skills to put there. Do i need to max it?
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Pierce has diminishing returns as it gets higher level, as with the dodge skills and CS, so it's not normally a good idea to max it. 50-60% is a good range to aim for, but more is always better if you have the spare points.
 
Well thx for the answers!!
Do u mean charged strike is worth maxing just to kill bosses?? because if that's so, I won't max it. I was trying to find a way to raise my LF dmg.
But I already gave it a lot of points so I think I'll max it anyway...
And did u say 20 points in Charged strike will TRIPLE my LF dmg????
And one last question- What about dodge? i have a 52% in it now. should i max it?
Thank u for your patience.
 
Galinho said:
Well thx for the answers!!
Do u mean charged strike is worth maxing just to kill bosses?? because if that's so, I won't max it. I was trying to find a way to raise my LF dmg.
But I already gave it a lot of points so I think I'll max it anyway...
And did u say 20 points in Charged strike will TRIPLE my LF dmg????
And one last question- What about dodge? i have a 52% in it now. should i max it?
Thank u for your patience.
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Yes, CS is worth maxing just for the bosses. On top of that it adds 20% damage to your lightning fury (remember: synergies... 1% extra LF damage per charged strike level invested (only actual points in it are counted, so the max is 20% extra LF damage with 20 points in CS, no matter the amount of +skillers you have)).

He did not say 20 pts in CS will triple your LF damage, like stated above, it adds 20%. What he did say was: 20 points in LF will triple your CS damage. I'm not really sure what % damage is added to CS when you place points in it's synergies so I can't check it.

+- 50% Dodge is generally accepted as a good value for pvm. Since the diminshing returns kick in really hard, not many people will max it for pvm.
 
The only ways to raise LF damage is +skills, synergy, +xx% lightning damage, and pierce. (and lower resist/conviction, which you cannot consistantly have without shelling out much more resources) CS raises LF damage slightly, but just by 20% even with 20 points. Nothing can easily triple your LF damage, nor do you need something like that. The thing that comes closest to it is 100% pierce, I guess (razortail and 9 in pierce). If each javalin releases bolts 3 times instead of 1, then you have effectively tripled your damage.

CS is well worth maxing, though. The amount of damage it does to staggering targets and bosses is simply amazing. Don't bother much with D/A/E unless you are playing HC. Some LF/FA or LF/PJ players don't even have more than 1 on each of those, or valk, since they need those points bad.
 
Thank u all! You all really helped me!
animecrazy-- D/A/E?? HC??? FA???
LOL I Hate shortcuts that i don't understand... But slowly I'm learning to know 'em all.
Thanks again!!! :thumbsup:
 
D/A/E means dodge, avoid, evade. They are zon passive skills. FA is freezing arrow, which is sometimes used to hybrid your zon with. HC is hardcore......, don't go there unless you are prepared to lose your chars.
 
There's also a sticky in the newcomers forum about abbreviations if we start confusing you with long strings of acronyms. :thumbsup:

Yes, you really should have done some more research and guide reading before you started this. Now that I've played my javazon a while, I can't even imagine doing it without Charged Strike. While LF is powerful, CS can kill bosses and uniques with startling speed, especially if you have a fairly quick attack.
 
I can tell you it was hell trying to solo hell ancients without CS...... I basically used LF's auto hit and the pitiful physical damage and crushing blow from gores to kill them......
 
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