How much PDR needed for Nihla runs?

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How much PDR needed for Nihla runs?

Was going to make a nihla keyrunner and I wonder how much PDR is needed so that you'll take 0 physical damage from the poison javelin from those tomb vipers.
 
I was surprised when I tried a Nilly run with my IK barb (with no PDR as far as i'm aware) and the dmg wasn't as scary as everyone made it out to be...thats with 36xx life...
I did Taunt any Vipers I saw so they came to attack me and didn't shoot but there were still many instances of a stray projectile hitting me from offscreen and losing a chunk of life from the top, nothing worth juving to but i'd just hit the snakeys back and the leech would sort me out...maybe I was lucky...
 
One needs about 50-60pdr to negate the bugged snakes. This works at the per frame level.
 
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Sorry STINGER i'll rephrase that...no extra PDR as far as i'm aware...no where near Master Zap's figure...guess I was lucky then!

EDIT: The PDR from IK is 20%, not a flat figure...
 
Add a DR Ammy to IK and you would be pretty set i think. I wouldnt go in there like I were unkillable though as a Unique could probably smoke you if you run straight at him in his cloud but the average ones probably wont unless you get too many of them shooting and you running.

You WW or Conc or Zerk on the IK? Standing still the cloud really doesnt do much to you, its when you move run/walk when it hits hard so you can leap and stand in place all you want and be taking minimal damage. I watched a WW Barb lvl 85 die like a no life sorc to those Vipers but he didnt have any damage reduction. It was in like the first month of 1.10 before many people had seen them. There really wasnt any attraction to kill Nith for most people until the keys.

I think many recommendations of PDR and straight reduction like SOL runes are all a bit over kill, but that is simply the best way to build in HC.....does a Barb need 4k life? Does he need max BO? Nope.... but you stand a better chance with more than less. Sorc doesnt need 1400 life but I always make my Mfer with that.
 
Really, If you plan on making a Barb, Howl is the way to go.

While you only need ~50 PDR to cancel it out, it is not really as needed as some say, although yes, it does help.

I run with 20 PDR from Glads, and 46% DR, and my Barb does fine (No RIP either). But before he was 85, he had been running since level 72 with 0 PDR and just 45% DR. Which cuts the snakes damage about in half. If you use Howl and Taunt properly, its not much an issue.

Of course, if not a Barb, its a different ball game.

Hell, I can run with my Hdin (well, port not run) and he is fine. I've found I prefer DR% for the CE that Nihla may get off rather than a cloud which I KNOW not to enter. It also helps when Amp'd and you got the red balls o' doom flying at you.
 
STINGER said:
Add a DR Ammy to IK and you would be pretty set i think. I wouldnt go in there like I were unkillable though as a Unique could probably smoke you if you run straight at him in his cloud but the average ones probably wont unless you get too many of them shooting and you running.
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Liberal use of Taunt helped me avoid most poisoning I think!

STINGER said:
You WW or Conc on the IK? Standing still the cloud really doesnt do much to you, its when you move run/walk when it hits hard so you can leap and stand in place all you want and be taking minimal damage.
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WW with one-point Conc on the left click...I did a bit of experimenting as I stood in a cloud when I got hit by one and moved out as it dissipated...the most I got hit by was just above half life...

STINGER said:
I think many recommendations of PDR and straight reduction like SOL runes are all a bit over kill, but that is simply the best way to build in HC.....does a Barb need 4k life? Does he need max BO? Nope.... but you stand a better chance with more than less. Sorc doesnt need 1400 life but I always make my Mfer with that.
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His helm has 2 x pTopaz as I used to run Trav Council with him...my sorc has no block and 1.3k life for MF...i'm a dangerous mofo :laugh: :tongue:



 
You could go a long way to makign it even safer jsut making an additional Helm with SOLs for 14 DR and if you get you one of those 20+ DR ammys you have 34+ and 50 cancels it out. Better safe than sorry, you never know when (1) cloud is actually (3) or more. One run to Nith you may never see a Viper, next it may be (3) of them there but only (1) sees you, next time you might find (2) packs of (3) all shooting at you.


Hell I did Nith solo in S1 IIRC (3) or more times before I went with (2) friends to do it with them and i finally saw what those Vipers could do when both of them died and one was the barb I mentioned above and the other was a Sorc. I had looted em both and nearly died myself as BO went down before i could clear them out to safely loot. The only thing that kills a Barb that fast is Iron Maiden...until I saw that.
 
40-60 works. I wouldn't go lower than that. 40 makes it so you notice the clouds when you run through them, and drink a health potion, and 60 makes you pretty invulnerable.

One weird thing I experienced.
I was standing still, but attacking, and I took damage from the clouds. This was with my IK barb. He had around...uhh 21 PDR at that time.
 
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