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Ulza

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Found this promising looking claw, need some feedback

Ok so the other day I was reading about ww/trap pvp sin and the guide mentioned that fools claw with knockback is nice to have for some nasty melee chars. Then I found this:



Tried to consult the "what to look for in fools claws" guide but the link didn't work. So am I into something here or is this just another piece of junk? I'm on Europe softcore ladder if that matters something. Thanks in advance for any help! :)
 
Re: Found this promising looking claw, need some feedback

It could possibly be useful vs smiters but without some ED or +lightning sentry of some kind it isn't going to be expensive.
 
Re: Found this promising looking claw, need some feedback

That claw looks like it might be too slow. Also, the physical damage is pretty low.
 
Re: Found this promising looking claw, need some feedback

Checked some assassin calculator and the claw itself is enough for 4 frame ww, only problem would be trap laying speed without other sources of ias like burst of speed. I really don't know anything other than what I have read in guides about pvp so I don't even know if assassins use burst or just fade all the time. And yeah I was afraid the lack of ED would be bad but then again I heard somewhere that vast majority of damage comes from venom procs instead of claw damage so I wanted to be sure before ditching it.

Thanks for the info tho guys, it's pretty annoying to find something that is so close of being good but ends up being useless. All too familiar feeling for most of us I guess. :D

EDIT:Thanks for the link kestegs!
 
Re: Found this promising looking claw, need some feedback

Ulza said:
Checked some assassin calculator and the claw itself is enough for 4 frame ww, only problem would be trap laying speed without other sources of ias like burst of speed. I really don't know anything other than what I have read in guides about pvp so I don't even know if assassins use burst or just fade all the time. And yeah I was afraid the lack of ED would be bad but then again I heard somewhere that vast majority of damage comes from venom procs instead of claw damage so I wanted to be sure before ditching it.

Thanks for the info tho guys, it's pretty annoying to find something that is so close of being good but ends up being useless. All too familiar feeling for most of us I guess. :D

EDIT:Thanks for the link kestegs!
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Most of the time (except vs pure hdins and pnb necros) you use fade, but you can get your ias for trap-laying from jewels & highlords if necessary. The majority of character screen damage comes from venom. For a ghost, physical damage is what makes up the difference between a mediocre char and a very good char. Venom damage in any serious duel is reduced to 25% by poison res and then reduced again because it doesn't always run to full duration before being reset. On the other hand, you can apply physical damage from both claws every 4 frames.


 
Re: Found this promising looking claw, need some feedback

Thanks for the info Karth. It seems a lot of people, me included, seem to avoid assassins becouse they feel more complicated than other classes. I got around to rolling a serious pve trapper last ladder and got interested with the class becouse I had to study how traps and ias+other stats work together. The thing I have learned atleast is that there's a crap ton of false myths and missinformation floating around, just like that venom damage thing.
 
Re: Found this promising looking claw, need some feedback

I'm not saying venom is bad, mind you. It can be pretty important... but at the same time, neglecting physical damage or putting a bunch of emphasis on venom is silly.

Assassins are one of the more complicated classes, I agree. That's part of why I like them. :o)
 
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