Does this smiter build look stabile?

[pVq]

Does this smiter build look stabile?

Well I sold some of all my MF items and finally thought about making an Smiter, cause find them fun and they can do UT which I just find like alot of fun!

Helm: CoA 2OS/BerBer or ---15Req X2?
Ammy: Mara's 27 --- Highlord's <- I switch beetween them
Rings: BK3 & Raven 20 249 <- I know I failed the AR
Boots: I had hard about choose here... Gores --- Sands Eth ??/?? --- WW's Perf life --- Goblin Toes
Gloves: Bloodfist --- Dracul's 15str (Bloodfist cause of the fhr and ias + 40 life)
Weap: Grief PB 36 ias 389 dmg --- 6 OS weapon with Shael only (serious? It's a great laugh with holy freeze aura 1pointed cause everybody will call you 'IAS bugger') --- LW PB to get Fade before duels might be a great thing to do ???
Armor: CoH AP 15ed --- Eni MP no ed --- Forti AP 10ed ??? <- Had problems choosing, forti is for getting chilling armor against ranged for the laugh
Shield: Eth VT Exile 15 aura forgot ED =p 45 all resi <3 --- Zaka Eth ZOD'd
Switch: Cta 6 5 2 + Pala Spirit

In Stash is all the items I switch beetween and these;
Wisp Projector 20Light abs <- Yep hate me
Dwarf Star
Rising Sun Ammy
TGod 196ed
Hotspur --- Infernostride <- I got both so dunno

Reason to have ABS gear is I have the habbit to always find a game with stupid auradin >_<

My skills are abit of a mess i think ._.

1Pointed everything to get skills below
Max'd Holy Shield
Max'd Smite
Max'd Fana aura
1Pointed Holy Freeze

I'm aware of Holy Freeze can be quite usefull versus melee characters

So what you say?
I know I got no charms left but I got some few 20Life Scs on other chars that I will mule
I don't got skillers yet and my build isn't done yet, I still need to place stats and get my Paladin to the lvl 76 so he can eq it all

Please say what you really mean and sorry it's not that perfect

 

[KillaMike]

Re: Does this smiter build look stabile?

no ideas for helmet. i use kira for insane res
amu: mara, look at ias table. fana + grief = last bp iirc
rings: why bk? prebuffing? :whistling: res or sorbing ring should be better imo
boots: i like gores you might consider getting War Travelers as well :wink: ( wt = same damage bug as grief )
gloves: Double upped BloodFist
weapon: old good annoying grief
armour: Fortie ofc. edam from fortie adds to smite :alright:
shield: storm shield


skills: maybe, just baybe getting difeance aura up? to boost HS up.

 

[Scudstorm]

Re: Does this smiter build look stabile?

I don't got skillers yet

Smiters don't use skillers. Pick whatever life, res or fhr scs you need.

Since you have a lot of gear to swap around, take advantage of that if it doesn't annoy you. Eg. vs a vita cold sorc you'd 1-hit anyways, use CoH instead of Forti to get better stacked res.

no ideas for helmet. i use kira for insane res
shield: storm shield

CoA + HoZ/Exile is better (yea... hella more expensive too, but seems the guy got the coin)

boots: i like gores you might consider getting War Travelers as well :wink: ( wt = same damage bug as grief )

Nope, WT's +dmg is actually +min and +max, none of which is applied to Smite. Only plain +x damage (written exactly the same!) gets applied to Smite, and it only exists on weapons.

 

[Kinky]

Re: Does this smiter build look stabile?

Smiters don't use skillers. Pick whatever life, res or fhr scs you need.

Don't forget them psdscs, they can really pack a punch with Zeal



-Kinky

 

[pVq]

Re: Does this smiter build look stabile?

And HoZ is?
Never been so much interested in the Paladins as I am now, using Kira's? I might do that for that laugh
But what to socket my CoA with?
I recently got an Doom BA, which I found out works SPLENDID versus melee characters or Smiters, cause you get the first attack, if you're IAS is still ok :lol2: also works versus those auradins, full abs gear and Doom BA cause some of them only use 2x SoJ and then I can just make it up to them with EASE :mua:
Reason to BK is the Life actually XD and +1skill is nice ;.;
I might sound like i got the coins for it, but I'm just lucky with my trades ._.

And if I can pick any charms that I want... How does 37x 20Life Scs sound like? Of course some have 15-20Life and some few All Resi xD

 

[Kinky]

Re: Does this smiter build look stabile?

HoZ= Herald of Zakarum. It's a relatively staple shield suitable on just about any Paladin.

What you put in your CoA depends entirely on your needs. A 2Ber'd COA has a popular vote in both PvP and PvM, but again, it really depends what you're lacking or what you want more of. Depending on your gear though, you don't always need to have 2x -15Reqs (I personally think it's a waste of two nice open sockets).



-Kinky

 

[pVq]

Re: Does this smiter build look stabile?

HoZ= Herald of Zakarum. It's a relatively staple shield suitable on just about any Paladin.

What you put in your CoA depends entirely on your needs. A 2Ber'd COA has a popular vote in both PvP and PvM, but again, it really depends what you're lacking or what you want more of. Depending on your gear though, you don't always need to have 2x -15Reqs (I personally think it's a waste of two nice open sockets).



-Kinky

Yeah I thought so aswell :l
Well I heard ST (Sacaren Targe) Is alot better to do Exile in, low require and faster block rate and generally better block...

Is there anyway to match the Grief with any chance?
I kinda want to try make an build that doesn't have to be known by anyone, I liked my old 'DoomNation' build cause nobody got the build but it was still hardcore and could beat people up
So tell me, why is Grief so popular? And does Ignore Target Defence work for smiter aswell or will it always ignore?

 

[Scudstorm]

Re: Does this smiter build look stabile?

Don't forget them psdscs, they can really pack a punch with Zeal

Actually, they can't

Grief has ctc Venom, which will cap your other non-skill poison sources at a duration of 0.4 seconds and generally make them miserable.

Reason to BK is the Life actually XD and +1skill is nice ;.;

That +life/lvl is not BOable. As KillaMike already mentioned, sorb rings would be much better in those slots.

And if I can pick any charms that I want... How does 37x 20Life Scs sound like? Of course some have 15-20Life and some few All Resi xD

Sounds good, just make sure you reach a fhr breakpoint. You already have 60% from CoA and Bloodfists, so I suggest you aim for the 86% one.

Yeah I thought so aswell :l
Well I heard ST (Sacaren Targe) Is alot better to do Exile in, low require and faster block rate and generally better block...

Sacred Targe requires less dex for max block but does not offer faster block rate than a Vortex Shield. Vortex, in the other hand, can get much better defense.

Since you already have an eth Vortex with perfect resists, stay with it. Defense vs life is a matter of whom you duel and a matter of taste. In this case, it hardly makes a difference.

Is there anyway to match the Grief with any chance?
I kinda want to try make an build that doesn't have to be known by anyone, I liked my old 'DoomNation' build cause nobody got the build but it was still hardcore and could beat people up
So tell me, why is Grief so popular? And does Ignore Target Defence work for smiter aswell or will it always ignore?

Smite always hits. "Ignore Target Defense" bypasses your enemy's defense, so that only your clvl difference will matter. Since Smite doesn't need AR anyways, that mod does nothing for it.

Grief is so good for Smite because its +damage mod is added to your base Smite damage. Without Grief, you have an average base Smite damage of 46 on your Shield, + whatever bonus from Holy Shield (usually ~100-ish). Grief adds 400 to that damage, and more than triples your damage output.

This damage increase is not shown on the LCS (lying character screen).

 

[Kinky]

Re: Does this smiter build look stabile?

Is there anyway to match the Grief with any chance?
I kinda want to try make an build that doesn't have to be known by anyone, I liked my old 'DoomNation' build cause nobody got the build but it was still hardcore and could beat people up
So tell me, why is Grief so popular?

It's fast. It's got Deadly Strike. It a respectable amount of damage, while ignoring target defense are prevents most enemies from healing. All for a relatively cheap price compared to your same tier alternatives.

But as you know, how well any piece of your setup works depends largely on the rest of your gear. Last Wish is a popular replacement to make up for the lack of Crushing Blow on Grief (I use Last Wish because without it I'd only have 15% CB from Gores).

I love talking about runeword weapons, every time I make a new melee build I like to toss on all the different runeword weapons that I think would benefit the build.
And so, as are many other runewords depending on what you need, you really don't know what makes you have the most fun until you've tried them all.
Personally I loved my eBOTDz as a Zealot when I wasn't doing Ubers. The +30 to all attributes, on top of the 60% IAS and CtC Poison Nova was to me, irresistible and I just had to take it Blood Maggot hunting and try to crash the game with Poison Nova.
Doom I didn't like so much until I tried PvP with my guy, and then I absolutely fell in love with it and went on to make a two handed Doom Charger.
Yet another fun replacement to use is Death, with both a solid chance of Crushing Blow and Deadly Strike and a nice -20% to requirements.
Those are the four runewords that people usually think of with regards to lots of offensive capabilities for their Smiter/Zealot, and can handle multiple situations.

I've also tried Voice of Reason, even though it doesn't really come close to the four aforementioned. Using it with Zeal to spam cold spells was pretty fun.

Actually, they can't

Grief has ctc Venom, which will cap your other non-skill poison sources at a duration of 0.4 seconds and generally make them miserable.

Wasn't aware of this. Thanks for the heads up. :thumbup:



-Kinky

 

[pVq]

Re: Does this smiter build look stabile?

You say I should use Sorb rings instead?
Well which would be best to use?

HoZ Seems as a good idea since I got an Eth with ZoD in it, Vortex seems best for the Max Dmg but I like my HoZ much more ._. I also got an Zakarum Exile, can those work better or Vortex 'FTW' ?
Making new build I got the same habbit I keep throw myself over every single runeword and attempt to get one runeword other people don't use, I use Nadir on my MLD 39 and then change helm to my 30ias 83life 10atk rate (Got no idea where the atk rate came from xD) And then use my Javelin with 240ed dmg and replenish + etheral together with my 30ias shield and my 45ias armor, makes me laugh cause Jabbing makes so fast they can't move and they got no armor but I get a nice bonus of 51% about that

I once used an Destruction on a Zealer... You got no idea how fast the game will crash with this thing so obviously didn't use on Zealer but tryed it on a BASHER barb (Yep they DO exist someplaces) and I must say... It's horrible funny to watch the different chars calling you noob and hacker cause you got that many chance on hits with the 15+% Ofc the Molten Boulder only got the 5% -.- but it sucks anyways

One items I really enjoy was the Eternity on a Etheral Caduceus with some + to some skills i forgot but they helped alot, kinda simple reason for that weapon, Etheral ~ Indestructible ~ Crushing Blow ~ Slows Target 33% ~ Cannot Be Frozen ~ Regenerate 16% + Replenish 16*, I really had fun charging with that beauty in Pub Duel games and people just said noob when they traded me and said 'SHOW' and then after 2second I 1hitted Charged them xD

 

[Steinlord]

Re: Does this smiter build look stabile?

It all depends on what your doing with your smiter here is my basis

it's either one or the other.

Last wish with Upd Hoz

Grief with Exile(high exile)

I went with last wish although i have no need for res with a 40% maras my 81 % kiras and when killing uber meph lvl 12 salvation(1 skill wonder) not to mention i am able to do this beacuse I have Might on my sword, and the added damage.

 

[pVq]

Re: Does this smiter build look stabile?

40% on a Mara? xD
I hope you typed wrong and it's 30 -> not 40 which would be impossiple or hax items =P

 

[HvnlyImpresion]

Re: Does this smiter build look stabile?

Is it possible to still use ebotdzerker to uber tristram? or is GRIEF always going to be the mother of my kids.

 

[pVq]

Re: Does this smiter build look stabile?

Is it possible to still use ebotdzerker to uber tristram? or is GRIEF always going to be the mother of my kids.

eBOTD should always go to Zealers since they ruin Durability so fast ._.
You could always try xD
I did an Elemental Templar with Conviction aura and ALMOST did UT, died at meph cause he was Immune to light + Enchanced light dmg + Light bolts when hitted him :<
Acutally I'm going to try use an eBOTD just once and see if it works better with the charge problem, grief isn't SO AWESOME when it comes to use it, only reason to use it after what I heard it's generally the IAS and Damage, cause Deadly Strike can't add to 'Smite' (Well after what I heard it can't :< )
I would love if you could use another item than the Grief PB/BA ... I once gotten my hands into an BA Grief 40 ias 389 dmg, can't say I could feel the big difference really from an eBOTD BA with 'Medium' mods, or from my Doom BA with low ED it still owns somehow, it's kinda how you are builded up ._.
My Smiter is an old UT Smiter that I sold and now I just got the gear on him untill I get lvl on my other 'Char' or perhaps the patch will come faster than I imagined and I can just 'Prespec' :>

 

[mephiztophelez]

Re: Does this smiter build look stabile?

But what to socket my CoA with?

imho: a 15% res all/-15% requirements jewel and a Ber rune.

So tell me, why is Grief so popular?

because even the crappiest +340 Grief on Battlenet is the equivalent of a +90 to Holy Shield weapon when in the hands of a smiter.

there is simply no other way to get so much extra smite damage.

 

[alphaz]

Re: Does this smiter build look stabile?

pvp smiter would not exist without grief runeword.