Berserk In Pvp Thread, All Questions/info Goes Here

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my biggest complaint was the range (using pb grief). i met a few ww barbs and they just clipped me to death. that coupled with the "0 def makes you block a lot" really hurts.

what would be the best way to overcome that? get better at teleporting on top of them so that their range matters less or switch to a griefz and go down a frame or two?
 
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hey, i'm really interested in building a tele-zerker, but i'm having problems w/ gear selections, and i don't like to change up gear in-between duels, which makes it even harder. I feel like if i go 2 hander ill be a glass-cannon, but if i go 1 hander that it still won't enough survivability+dmg to do well due to the slow fpa of berserk. anyways, i figure that 63 fcr is a must since there is no charge, no stun, and too many 200 fcr sorcs running around that i have to attempt to catch. Also, what type of balance have u found is best b/t ias n dr. i have figured that coa is my best helm option to try n' maintain some type of dr, but if i go w/ ebotd giant thresher (1 frame faster than gpa) i would be at 12 fpa w/ 2x ber or i could go w/ 2x ias/ed jewels n be at 11 fpa (only 1 frame more, and loose 16 dr).

so these are the 2 possible gear selections that ive found, tell me what u think:

option 1: 2 hander
coa - ber+ber
nigma
ebotd giant thresher
trang gloves
marrowalks - will give me 50 fhr w/ coa, will finish off w/ 8x 20/5 life/fhr scs
arach
2/20 barb/fcr ammy
fcr ring
raven

this option will give me 12 fpa, 86+ fhr w/ expensive charms, 63+ fcr, 39 dr, gg damage n range

option 2: 1 hander

ebotd pb
spirit monarch - to block or not to block
nigma
trang gloves
dugos
coa - ber+ber
waterwalks
highlords - deadly strike= dbl dmg.
fcr ring
raven

this option gives me 63+ fcr, 50+ dr, 9 fpa, 86+ fhr w/o charms, fair dmg but more surviability n lower fpa.


so, tell me what u think. could either of these be viable? am, i even on the right track? also, ive noticed that u suggest having 1pt ww, in which case would u use ww over tele or is it just to escape stun?
 
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crawlingdeadman said:
my biggest complaint was the range (using pb grief). i met a few ww barbs and they just clipped me to death. that coupled with the "0 def makes you block a lot" really hurts.

what would be the best way to overcome that? get better at teleporting on top of them so that their range matters less or switch to a griefz and go down a frame or two?
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You can't beat any decent wwbarbs no matter what range. Wwsins are easier if you dont have swirlies. Best bet vs wwbarbs is to either use range 5 and try to outrange them or just use shield and tele in their ww path and pray for lucky rolls. They are easy to avoid anyway so who cares, and if you've played bvc before you're already used to ignore other barbs.



dabeas said:
hey, i'm really interested in building a tele-zerker, but i'm having problems w/ gear selections, and i don't like to change up gear in-between duels, which makes it even harder. I feel like if i go 2 hander ill be a glass-cannon, but if i go 1 hander that it still won't enough survivability+dmg to do well due to the slow fpa of berserk. anyways, i figure that 63 fcr is a must since there is no charge, no stun, and too many 200 fcr sorcs running around that i have to attempt to catch. Also, what type of balance have u found is best b/t ias n dr. i have figured that coa is my best helm option to try n' maintain some type of dr, but if i go w/ ebotd giant thresher (1 frame faster than gpa) i would be at 12 fpa w/ 2x ber or i could go w/ 2x ias/ed jewels n be at 11 fpa (only 1 frame more, and loose 16 dr).

so these are the 2 possible gear selections that ive found, tell me what u think:

option 1: 2 hander
coa - ber+ber
nigma
ebotd giant thresher
trang gloves
marrowalks - will give me 50 fhr w/ coa, will finish off w/ 8x 20/5 life/fhr scs
arach
2/20 barb/fcr ammy
fcr ring
raven

this option will give me 12 fpa, 86+ fhr w/ expensive charms, 63+ fcr, 39 dr, gg damage n range

option 2: 1 hander

ebotd pb
spirit monarch - to block or not to block
nigma
trang gloves
dugos
coa - ber+ber
waterwalks
highlords - deadly strike= dbl dmg.
fcr ring
raven

this option gives me 63+ fcr, 50+ dr, 9 fpa, 86+ fhr w/o charms, fair dmg but more surviability n lower fpa.


so, tell me what u think. could either of these be viable? am, i even on the right track? also, ive noticed that u suggest having 1pt ww, in which case would u use ww over tele or is it just to escape stun?
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You don't need 63 fcr. 20 or 40 is enough. 30 fhr is enough as well (50 in some 1v1 setups). As you noticed the hard part is balancing everything. There is no correct build. You dont need max dr all the time either. I wouldn't use giant thresher though, grief pb+phoenix has about the same damage and 9 frame attack. Either go with botd gpa/cb or 1-handed.

Always use highlords, gores/resboots. Also consider 2barb/20fcr/2sox circlet with ed/ias jewels. That + arach + trangs + fcr ring could be used for 63 fcr in 1v1 as well.

If you're gonna play in pubs alot I would probably go coa ber ber, arach, trangs, grief pb, phoenix, gores/resboots (only use resboots if >40 fire+lightres), highlord, 2x ravens.

One very interesting option is to use botd cb twohanded. It's even faster than gpa (42 ias required for 11 frame zerk) and has same damage but only range 3. On the flip side it uses sword mastery so you can switch between that and grief pb without problems.

Never use spirit shield. Wizard spike is better off-hand if you need fcr.

You use ww to escape stun and to attack or annoy certain chars. Not to replace tele.


 
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gores?? are they really worth it? granted that i would love to discover some 30frw/30fhr/ 30+ fr, cr, lr godly rares. but lets say that i dont find those, wouldn't i be better off w/ some marrows, treks, or waterwalks. also, what life to shoot for?? i figure that i was able to pull off 5.5K w/ my frenzy barb w/o life charms, so i figure that w/ 37 20 lifers i could pull ~7k life. but.....should i use 9x bcombs/lifers instead. also, this build runs short on res, and there is no way i can mf enough to get 10x 20/5 life/res sc. but, i do have a few 15res/35+life gcs that i could borrow from my pally, or should i stick w/ bcomb/lifers n pick up some plain 5res scs?? basically, i know that ill have 6k+ life no matter what, so should i sacrafice 500-1k more life for more dmg n plain res scs??
 
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dabeas said:
gores?? are they really worth it? granted that i would love to discover some 30frw/30fhr/ 30+ fr, cr, lr godly rares. but lets say that i dont find those, wouldn't i be better off w/ some marrows, treks, or waterwalks. also, what life to shoot for?? i figure that i was able to pull off 5.5K w/ my frenzy barb w/o life charms, so i figure that w/ 37 20 lifers i could pull ~7k life. but.....should i use 9x bcombs/lifers instead. also, this build runs short on res, and there is no way i can mf enough to get 10x 20/5 life/res sc. but, i do have a few 15res/35+life gcs that i could borrow from my pally, or should i stick w/ bcomb/lifers n pick up some plain 5res scs?? basically, i know that ill have 6k+ life no matter what, so should i sacrafice 500-1k more life for more dmg n plain res scs??
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Best possible resboots are close to 50 light/fire/coldres (with 20 fhr on some realms). NL only of course. Otherwise use gores. Always. The 15% deadly strike is HUGE.

6.5k+ life is enough. Try to get barb combats with 3x or 4x life, they add great damage to berserk (especially if you use a twohander). I would use 2-3 15res/3x life gcs rest combat lifers and life scs (with single res or ar if possible). You want 75 fire res and ~110-120 lightres _before_ anya.


 
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what would be better overall for a 1-hander?
A grief pb with 9 fpa or a grief zweihander with 11 fpa zerk?
Is the +1 range worth loosing 2fpa?
 
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Gimmershred said:
what would be better overall for a 1-hander?
A grief pb with 9 fpa or a grief zweihander with 11 fpa zerk?
Is the +1 range worth loosing 2fpa?
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Grief pb for sure. Use grief ba if you want range 3, but range is irrelevant most of the time and 2 has it's benefits as well (easier to walk-down-zerk hdins without getting hit, with range 3 it's easier to walk too far and become vulnerable). Range 5 is better in that respect but 3 seems to end up somewhere in between =/


 
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What do you use more, a 20 or 40fcr setup? Also is a hl dualraven setup sufficient in ar in a standard pub wich will have like 3 paladins in there? With a 20fcr setup hsarus seems nice. I am kind of an attack rating freak.

Also if you want a tvt friendly barb that wants a high lvl leap, how would your skillayout look?

Thanks for all the help in advance by the way.
 
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Gimmershred said:
What do you use more, a 20 or 40fcr setup? Also is a hl dualraven setup sufficient in ar in a standard pub wich will have like 3 paladins in there? With a 20fcr setup hsarus seems nice. I am kind of an attack rating freak.

Also if you want a tvt friendly barb that wants a high lvl leap, how would your skillayout look?

Thanks for all the help in advance by the way.
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I use 40 fcr alot, even on pure berserker (although I mainly play berserk/ww hybrid). 20 fcr with twohander setup is very viable though. As a pure berserker you normally chase casters so nn hsarus, those boots+belt are mainly for zerking hdins/smiters imo. Dont forget to enchant ahah. With normal pub gear you get 15-17k ar so yes thats enough. If you have trouble use hsarus and/or enchant.

Tvt depends on team setup but grief pb+block with storm is nice vs zon based teams. Also consider block with sanctuary or non-block with phoenix. No straight answers here. Skills would be 20 berserk/leap/shout/bo, 1 speed/res/ww rest mastery.


 
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wow, this char is more fun then i thought. And very good for being forced to learn how to lock and chainlock good and fast.

I find 40fcr far superiour to 20 fcr indeed. Also i am glad i took pretty many life/mana gc's to reach around 900mana after bo. I just hate drinking blue's all the time, and i feel a little sacrafice in life is worth it, i reach 5.5k.
I indeed get 17k ar with 2x raven/highlords. 25k ar with hsarus that i keep in stash. I went with 1 points leap after-all, just wanted raw damage. The leap is still usefull vs some druids and necs.

I mainly use leftclick berserk namelocks. But it doesnt seem to work for me when i combine this with holding down shift and then releasing it before i try to tele. In some situations the walking can really hurt and leads me straight into enemies attacks.
 
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Gimmershred said:
wow, this char is more fun then i thought. And very good for being forced to learn how to lock and chainlock good and fast.

I find 40fcr far superiour to 20 fcr indeed. Also i am glad i took pretty many life/mana gc's to reach around 900mana after bo. I just hate drinking blue's all the time, and i feel a little sacrafice in life is worth it, i reach 5.5k.
I indeed get 17k ar with 2x raven/highlords. 25k ar with hsarus that i keep in stash. I went with 1 points leap after-all, just wanted raw damage. The leap is still usefull vs some druids and necs.

I mainly use leftclick berserk namelocks. But it doesnt seem to work for me when i combine this with holding down shift and then releasing it before i try to tele. In some situations the walking can really hurt and leads me straight into enemies attacks.
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900 sounds excessive imo, 650-700 is enough since zerk doesn't require any mana unlike ww. Gogo damage charms =)
Remember enchant as well, just as fast as switching in hsarus and you keep the dmg/fcr. 1 leap is really nice vs everything that can stun you imo. Don't forget weapon switching vs assas, just weapon switch like crazy and run out of stunlock.

Hotkey unsummon on right and use it to get first namelock when you don't want to run.


 
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I use 9 combat skillers with life with the rest plain 20 lifers, also have 2 warcry skillers for prebuff.
 
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Isn't it better to add 5 points in Natural Resist, 5 in Increased Speed and the rest in Shout instead of maxing Berserk?





















































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Imbecile said:
Isn't it better to add 5 points in Natural Resist, 5 in Increased Speed and the rest in Shout instead of maxing Berserk?
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no. anni+torch+battle command+other will rise this passives to decent level.

and this type of posting dont look good...



 
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