Arreats vs. Guillis on BvC

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Arreats vs. Guillis on BvC

I heard many people say that guillaumes face is better than arreats on a BvC. Now can anybody tell me whether that this is true or not? It seems to be rediculus to sacrafice ar and other mods over a crit mod and cb.
 
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Vs high life oppenants giully is better than everything other than maybe 08 arreats but that's just my oppinion :)
 
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I can't see why you'd ever want to use guillaume's. If you are fighting physical damage characters, you really need the dr of coa to be viable. If you are fighting spell casters, arreat's (09) is too good all around to pass up. By the way, I was a big fan of 08 arreat's before they totally nerfed the 15% opponent's def mod. I can't see why anyone would use it now.

JEB90
 
Re: Arreats vs. Guillis on BvC

Vs high life oppenants giully is better than everything other than maybe 08 arreats but that's just my oppinion :)

Therein lies the problem with it on a BvC. They face low-life chars mostly.


 
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Dam jeb they Altered 08s been a long time since I seen 1 onscreen I guess and sass vs any shaper ,windy ,hammer or any castor I'd use giullhams but I'm no pro ^^
 
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I can't see why you'd ever want to use guillaume's. If you are fighting physical damage characters, you really need the dr of coa to be viable. If you are fighting spell casters, arreat's (09) is too good all around to pass up. By the way, I was a big fan of 08 arreat's before they totally nerfed the 15% opponent's def mod. I can't see why anyone would use it now.

JEB90

Of course coa ber ber vs physical damage opponents. But im looking for an answer vs. casters. Whats better vs. CASTERS arreats or guilliaume's face? I heard so many people say guillaume's face but im not sure if its really better or not.


 
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arreats or 20 fcr circ...i dont see any major advantage of gui vs casters...
4 leap levels less, less ar, less resists, less style...
 
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Extra damage ^^ but I always go for more damage , and vs castors you don't need huge ar so as long as you have max res without arreats and use arach or trang gloves just chase and kill as qiuck as you can ,I'd use arac belt and keep dracs for ow
 
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extra damage? maybe if cb hits in and will be maybe noticable only on winders...only where i see its usefullness is on 1 hiters (charge, zerk)

cb cuts 1/10 in pvp and it is halfed again with 50 % dr, not to mentioned es, bone armor...

comparison
guili 15 % ds --> gain only 10 % (standard set up hl+gores)
35 % cb (read above)
0 resists
0 skills (less ar, direct damage (ww+mastery), natural, bo, zerk lvl, leap lvl...)
0 % ar
5 less str
0 dex
0 style

and some casters requires 65 % fcr...
 
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Never heard recommendations for guillaume's - cb's effects are reduced significantly in pvp, and as you'd still need multiple sources since cb has a percentage. Above folks have already mentioned "standard" helms.
 
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Sorry still prefer giullys ^^ but love that helm on all mellee chars Just my favourite ^^
 
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Thank you all for your imputs. Im going to say pvm barb=guillis and pvp barb=arreats. Yeah This really helped me choose in between the two seriously.
 
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Id still take arreat over guild for pvm too, cb isnt that usefull on normal mob....

I hate how ugly guil looks like :O
 
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I really don't understand that. Guill's looks so bad-*** on barbs (and sins) compared to the clown-hat that is Arreat's :/

Once you get resists elsewhere I see no reason to touch Arreat's again with a pvm barb...
 
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Pvm nothing beats giully and i love the look of it on barbs and sins and palas and and and ^^^
 
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Yes I am going with what both hubb and hartside has to say. PvM it seems guillis will win. I mean a barb can get good resist like nothing. I know it sounds crazy to max natural resist on a ww barb but its well worth it if you are going to use guillis honestly. No use for mass defense anyways.
 
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Stylewise the batman-style helmets are the alternative option. For the artistic, mix of cultures spiritual person, it describes uniqueness yet the batmanesque sense of responsibility and deep perseverance.
 
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I think guillaumes is better than arreats but I also think there are better options than both those helms.
 
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I use Shael'd griffon vs casters if my ping allows it, otherwise I stick with arreats because I zerk a lot.
 
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I use Shael'd griffon vs casters if my ping allows it, otherwise I stick with arreats because I zerk a lot.

Rare circs seem to be a better option than griffs. Im guessing that you use it for the 5% extra fcr am I correct? Yes I hear other builds use it for that 5% extra fcr.


 
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