A few questions concerning Assassin builds.

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thinsitu

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A few questions concerning Assassin builds.

a little info: i'm playing with my friend a paladin who has a concentration aura on.

1. is pheonix strike good? i'm almost finish with normal (act 5 now, nned to fight baal) i see that it does low damage but considering the elemental damage it might be worth it becuase the resists later on, but then wouldn't the damage be so small that it's not worth it?

2. my current planned build is 20 tiger 10 cobra and 20 dragon claw and if you answered yes for the first question then maybe 20 pheonix strike (i have 2 katars and don't wish to change) so what build should i have.

btw i already put in shadow dicipline: 5 burst of speed, 5 block, 10 claw masteracy

any help would be apprecieated
 
Your current build doesn't sound promising in terms of hell viability. If you max TS, you should really max dtail as well, as claw base damage is just so hideously low. Phoenix strike won't help unless you max one of the synergies as well. A build specialised around phoenix strike can manage over 10k max light damage and around 4k max fire damage (although the on hit damage isn't, the per second damage is a lot better than a sorcs meteor - this is what does the damage).

I suggest you try a build where either a ts-charged dtail is the finisher, or a phoenix-charged dclaw/talon (you can do both at once successfuly, with a focus on +MA equipment). Get a point in CoS, DS, flight, BoS.
 
right now i haven't go a lot in tiger (5) and the rest 1 next lvl (42) i'll be learning phnx strike and i'll equip a +2 all skill level claw with a 'hidiously' low damage, 17-29.

but i have put the points into the following:
10 claw masteracy
5 Burst of Speed
5 Block
and one in death trap.

so any ideas? phnx assassin or DT assassin?

btw don't use a lot of abbreviation i'm new to the language, first time in forums.
 
btw, the reason i'm not sure about Dtail is because i think the most common resists in hell are fire and physical and Dtail is both fire and physical attack so wouldn't it be rendered useless??
 
TS/DTail or Tiger/Death Sentry (Nightfish's guide) are the way to go if you have already invested in Tiger Strike. The TS/DTail build has lots of free points (only takes 42 including prereqs, heh) so you can either minor in traps or CoT/Phoenix.

Those are the basic choices that have worked for others, and what you do really depends on what you want to do out of that. Your plan (Tiger Strike + Dragon Claw) provides very low returns. You'd really be better of with pure Dragon Claw and 0 Tiger Strike since that provides almost the same damage rate as charging Tiger and releasing on DClaw. Scary, but true.


thinsitu - yes, physical/fire resists in Hell really hurt this build. With the Pally's concentration Aura, the damage on anything non-immune would be devistating. But, that's why you get to invest in something else also. There are very few enemies with high resists in fire, physical, and lightning.
 
thanks ilkori or should i say yoda?

i know since i have played necro before that if a monster is immune to physical and i cast amplify damage he will no longer be immune, is there any spels that works for fire/lightning too?

i've been looking through battle.net info about assassin and i don't get it, with DTail does it mean 50% damage is turned into fire or is it 50% fire damage gets added to the base damage? and please explain what else does it mean thanks.
 
Use lower resists curse and conviction aura for removing Elemental imunities. Wand can have lower res charges and conviction can be gained from infinity (but that is more expensive ofc).

As for Dtail damages it adds fire damage equal to a percent of the physical damage dealt. Read kicking basics for d(e)tail(s) :smiley:
 
try a tstrike/dtail/dtalon build all u need is gores and 1 point in death sentry to explode those fire immunes that u kicked down with talon, as 4 the others u can kill easily with dtail, work 4 me. Hell is pretty easy.

If u want a cheap merc build to fit in with ure build get a merc with ll and reapers toll 4 the decrepify. Big help against any monster.

Wat i do is dflight in a group of monsters, allow them to feel the slow motion with my freeze merc and decrep, charge up my dtail with tstrike for 41k dmge, kills bout nethin, lay down death sentry, done and done.

Or if u can't handle big groups just use cloak of shadows and use dtalon and death sentry. :thumbsup:
 
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