Batman - The Dark Knight Mafia Game

[Moar]

I'm 100% sure Laarz is town. I targeted him tonight again and got another Doctor shot. Therefore CG must be the last scum and I'll vote him. I think he's fake claiming. He didn't want to claim anything at all until last day and then claimed a role that is not an implausible fake claim according to his mafiascum link. Also I targeted CG on N2 and I didn't get a shot of his ability.

And BA, I haven't missed any of my night actions. I wrote about all of them in the thread and at least 2-3 of them were confirmed by kestegs.

I don't see a reason not to vote right now as my vote is not going to change anyway.

Vote: CG

 

[Caluin Graye]

I'm 100% sure Laarz is town. I targeted him tonight again and got another Doctor shot.

Why Laarz? What good would another doctor shot have done for the town at this point?

Also I targeted CG on N2 and I didn't get a shot of his ability.

By your own statements this should not come as a surprise to you. It is not an activated ability, therefore you shouldn't have gotten anything out of it.

 

[Moar]

Why Laarz? What good would another doctor shot have done for the town at this point?

Who else should I get a shot of that would be useful if there was another night? I can't gain and use an ability on the same night.

By your own statements this should not come as a surprise to you. It is not an activated ability, therefore you shouldn't have gotten anything out of it.

You never told us if it was an activated ability or not.

 

[Caluin Graye]

Who else should I get a shot of that would be useful if there was another night? I can't gain and use an ability on the same night.

Exactly my point: It doesn't matter who you targeted. Fact is, the last scum is you or me. But, you say things like this:

I'm 100% sure Laarz is town. I targeted him tonight again and got another Doctor shot. Therefore CG must be the last scum and I'll vote him. I think he's fake claiming.

You're eager to post your alibi, and then label me scum because you triple-checked Laarz. Not because he already passed your stolen DJM ability check, and not because he had already passed your doc steal ability check from two nights prior: No, tonight is the night that he is totally a doctor and therefore I must be scum.

 

[Caluin Graye]

How easy would it be to have CG just kill someone night one and steal their name?

If we presume that the poisoners are one mafia team and the standard night kills are attributed to a second mafia team, then there is no way that I could be using some else's claim.

A list of the people that have died in the middle of the night:
Drixx - Killed Night 1
Valhauros - Killed Night 2
djmbbandie - Killed Night 3
kestegs - Killed Night 8

kestegs we know to have been Batman. He vouched for Drixx and Valhauros, both part of his mason team. DJM we presume to be catwoman, as he made several soft claims as such and had an item stealing ability.

So for me to be scum, either I got very lucky that nobody counter-claimed my Nightwing claim, a major lore character, or a scum team has the choice to poison kill or standard night kill at their whim.

 

[Bad Ash]

If we presume that the poisoners are one mafia team and the standard night kills are attributed to a second mafia team, then there is no way that I could be using some else's claim.

A list of the people that have died in the middle of the night:
Drixx - Killed Night 1
Valhauros - Killed Night 2
djmbbandie - Killed Night 3
kestegs - Killed Night 8

kestegs we know to have been Batman. He vouched for Drixx and Valhauros, both part of his mason team. DJM we presume to be catwoman, as he made several soft claims as such and had an item stealing ability.

So for me to be scum, either I got very lucky that nobody counter-claimed my Nightwing claim, a major lore character, or a scum team has the choice to poison kill or standard night kill at their whim.

Which is exactly the kind of post I was hoping you'd make. Moar's actions the last couple of day phases speak for themselves. I have it 80/20 Moar is scum right now. Also, did you know that 89% of all stats are made up on the spot?

 

[Bad Ash]

Laaaaaaarrrzzzzz

 

[Moar]

Exactly my point: It doesn't matter who you targeted. Fact is, the last scum is you or me. But, you say things like this:

So you knew for sure that it wouldn't matter who I targeted? I didn't knew for sure there'd be a kill and there wouldn't be another night. So what would have been more useful then a doc shot in that case?

You're eager to post your alibi, and then label me scum because you triple-checked Laarz. Not because he already passed your stolen DJM ability check, and not because he had already passed your doc steal ability check from two nights prior: No, tonight is the night that he is totally a doctor and therefore I must be scum.

I didn't triple check Laarz. I checked him once with dj's ability because his claim was somewhat bad. After that I got his ability because it is freaking useful to have 2 docs available.

 

[Moar]

Hit submit instead of preview...

@CG
Were you in town on N2 or were you commuting?

 

[Laarz]

Sorry:wink: I've been rereading and doing stuff with my grandson.

BA do you think there were 1 or 2 scum teams, if 2, which would you guess the last scum would belong to? poisoners or the x-shot group.

Do you think that FoE trying to make CG look scum was just one scum trying to make another look town?

Moar voted first on Foe's first lynch and CG voted next to last, and on FoE's next lynch,CG voted first, anything to make from this, BA?

 

[Laarz]

I dont like being in this spot, but I am going to do my best to get this right. I appreciate any help BA.

 

[Laarz]

Moar, what is the name of your ability.

 

[Moar]

Moar, what is the name of your ability.

Shape Shift

 

[Bad Ash]

Sorry:wink: I've been rereading and doing stuff with my grandson.

BA do you think there were 1 or 2 scum teams, if 2, which would you guess the last scum would belong to? poisoners or the x-shot group.

Do you think that FoE trying to make CG look scum was just one scum trying to make another look town?

Moar voted first on Foe's first lynch and CG voted next to last, and on FoE's next lynch,CG voted first, anything to make from this, BA?

I actually think there is one mafia group. With the number of mafia that has been lynched, I believe they were just one big group. But could be wrong.


Good thinking on the FoE lynches.

I'll reiterate what I said earlier:

Moar, don't take this personally.

Case for CG:

I don't think Moar is the kind of mafia player who would strategically stop killing to not be seen by a claimed watcher and doctor. Unless she was being heavily coached too by other mafia. I think CG is a wise enough player to be able to pull off the kind of strategic moves that have gotten him to end game if he is mafia. This includes reading kestegs and your very open assessments of night actions, planning exactly when to strike and how, and making sure he is under the radar and playing into what others is saying and not lurking.

Case for Moar:
The last couple of days she has lurked extremely hard, made only the posts she needs too, and could have gotten unlucky on NKs. For example: The previous night, she could have tried to kill kestegs, who you saved, while kestegs didn't watch himself (I dont think) since he never did, then seen that you saved him, and gone after him again this past night. The stealing of the items has always been questionable, but I believe she knew you were alfred before you even came out with it?

Moar either has a double shot role: stealing items/one shot powers, or nking. one or the other. I dont know that if this is the case that she would steal items when she could have been killing? But maybe she tried.

CG: I think he is just straight up lying. He was reluctant to claim when he had no reason to. Like literally, zero reason too. He kept yelling at me to drop it like it was so important to the game, and his ability is leaving in a subway every other night? Why not just lie? Why not come up with a different role ability? Why not come out and say his ability, but lie about which night he goes away on the subway?

CG when did you first claim NightWing? It's important. I dont like the fact that you were 2nd to last on FoE and 1st the 2nd time at all.

I seriously can see it going either way.

 

[Bad Ash]

Shape Shift

Did you ever tell us your character name? If yes, can you reiterate it and if no can you tell us?

 

[Bad Ash]

Don't vote yet Laarz. I want Moar to answer first.

 

[Bad Ash]

Nevermind, I am 95% certain you should vote for Moar. If she answers my question that might change, but I feel strongly about it regardless of if she answers or not.

 

[Caluin Graye]

So you knew for sure that it wouldn't matter who I targeted? I didn't knew for sure there'd be a kill and there wouldn't be another night. So what would have been more useful then a doc shot in that case?

I knew for sure it didn't matter because as soon as BPC flipped town, that you had to be the final scum, and that you probably weren't a poisoner. If you were a poisoner, then you'd be in a no-win situation and the game would be over regardless of my fate.

I would have watched the scum, just in case s/he did something stupid like use an ability when you've accused them of fake claiming a passive ability. Sure, you probably wouldn't get anything, but the off chance that you might have gotten something would have been more useful than the doctor save that accomplishes nothing this late in the game.

Were you in town on N2 or were you commuting?

I was in town. I commute on odd nights.

 

[Moar]

Silver St. Cloud. Never heard of that person (I've only seen some batman movies, never been into comics). Wiki says she was a Bruce Wayne girlfriend and could see that he was batman. Guess that's the reason I can see what abilities people use. Why I get a shot of it if I see the ability, I don't know. Nothing in her Wiki description says that she did.

And the stealing thing as a shot of the ability I gained from dj. It was one shot, just like the doc shot I got from Laarz.

 

[Caluin Graye]

CG when did you first claim NightWing? It's important. I dont like the fact that you were 2nd to last on FoE and 1st the 2nd time at all.

I claimed back in post #742.

So the only two people I could have stolen the Nightwing role from were either Ankeli or pharphis, both whom died to poison.

My late vote on FoE was mainly because I felt BPC was scummier, but FoE was still a good candidate. I voted him early on the second train because he was confirmed scum in my eyes by that point.