Ender's Mafia Game

That's a gross exaggeration concerning that "LAMIST" quote.
The only reason I wrote that sentence is because it was a thought I had about why Jason hadn't been lynched since he's quite a liability for mafia if he gets the right information. It's not LAMIST, it's just a thought I had that someone may have been wondering or having as well, so I thought to include it.
 
@zemaj
Your bomb claim is really weak, you're played scummy throughout the game, and now you're trying to throw people off with a self-vote. Reverse-psychology is the only way I see it, and a piss-poor example at that. My vote will remain with you.
 
Copy/ paste fail....




I am saying that whomever locks me will be killed off as well, and mafia wouldn't risk that even if they truly didn't believe my claim.


I too would rather scum-hunt, but since I feel like the scum are not going to let the case against me die, I would rather use it as the tool of the scum-hunting, so that we can at least get one & then they have one less distraction to implement if it botches.





1) that wasn't your massive wall of text, was it? Matter of fact, I believe the above is the longest post you have made all game. But somehow being forthcoming & insightful is scummy... gotcha.


2) So what would you call 3 votes on one person within 12hrs of day start, when it takes 5 to lynch, exactly?


3) Awesome! I look forward to it, scummy. :nod:

Length of posts don't dictate whether or not they contain good content. The reason you're being voted for by three different people so quick is because, like it's been stated many times again and again, your play has been scummy and your claim is balderdash.

I thought you were going to lock me, since you are so townie.

I will lock you, because I believe your claim is false. In fact, I'll unvote you for now and will lock you if the time comes.

Unvote: zemaj
 
Anyway, it comes down to this, whether you believe my claim or not, the only ones I am the most dire threat to, are scum. They will have to deal with me eventually, but the best thing they can do is to get the town suckered into a lynch-train, thus killing 2 townies in one go. They just weren't expecting me to whip out some super-special-crazy-****-plan. :badteeth:

So now we need to get together & go with my crappy plan, or come up with something else. Truth be told, I'd just as soon not die, but I hate to be a continuing distraction.

You've typed this post as if you're town, which I find hard to believe.

If you are mafia, and your claim as a bomb is a bunch of lies, then you are a threat to town. It doesn't even matter what your role is, because, at this point, you're mafia and need to be lynched.

And to combat this "townie for a townie" situation, I am most willing to possibly sacrifice myself to lock someone who I think is scum.
 
That seemed like a really unproductive day. :(

Pharphy could we have a vote count please?

I will gladly be the locking vote since I have a VT role.

This confuses me. Why would a townie deliberately want to lock and reduce town numbers by one? (Unless the bomb bit only works on mafia, in which case, ignore me. :p)

Vote for me. get me lynched, then you'll know for sure.

Seems a bit aggressive for a townie. But today seems to be a day of 'vote me, vote me', so maybe it's something in the water. :D

Zemaj is saying he is a bomb that will kill the person who locks him. Also, isn't it normally a lynch vote or last vote? While I doubt his claim, if he is townie we can use the ability as a second lynch. If he is mafia, it doesn't mean anything as any mafia would be willing to lock him (unless he is a mafia bomb? If so, evil.)

So then, who do you think is a better mafia target that we should go for?

Frankly, I'd like to bump off the lurkers. But that'd require wasting a bunch of lynches, so I appreciate that it probably isn't a practical suggestion. :p

Val seemed off all the way through, but the frequent mafia players tend to have a fairly aggressive style and while I understand that it is appropriate to the game, it has never sat well with me and makes me think they're mafia.

Zemaj - I don't know. I have a hard time understanding that a bomb is a pro-town role. In one way his 'lynch me then' doesn't sit right, but in another it's just the sort of thing I'd do when I get fed up of trying to tell people stuff and them ignoring me.

Flubwert doesn't seem to ring true but that could just be me being peeved at his odd insistence at voting for me. Oh and judging by the use of LAMIST further on, it appears it wasn't him mis-spelling 'lame' earlier. Still doesn't seem complimentary. As for his 'lynch me then'; I really don't see where that came from. It was just ... strange.

I really wish the review posts was not broken
Agreed. I've tried a few times and it just isn't playing ball.

Gwaihir said:
Of people alive:
1. Thyiad - lurky
8. Gwaihir - town
10. Phillinnicus - active, seems townie to me.
11. flubbucket - circumstantial evidence from Jason pointing to guilt, but no noticeable difference in play
13. Leopold Stotch - lurky
14. Zemaj - likely mafia, possible bomb
15. Jason Maher - town
17. Valhauros - Seems like town. Val's play as mafia when questioned reminds me of more aloof, this game has been more investigative.
18. Noodle - lurky, only comment I remember was he thought flubb was scum, which he later took back.
22. Coju - lurky
I'm a bit gobsmacked at being stuck in the same category as Noodle! If I don't have much to say/contribute then short of posting updates as to my cats (two on steroids), then there's not much for me to post. :p I think Leo posted about being busy but Noodle and coju are lurkers par excellence.

And to combat this "townie for a townie" situation, I am most willing to possibly sacrifice myself to lock someone who I think is scum.

Well I won't lock him because I don't see how taking out one - possibly two - townies helps. I'd rather not even vote for him, but I will if the alternative is a no-lynch day because I don't believe that helps the town at all. And given the number of non-voters, I think it's important we keep pushing forward. (I will go re-read all the bits about the bomb in case I missed it only works on mafia in which case, yeah I'd lock too.)

If I had to pick one candidate to Zzap! (anyone remember that magazine?) then I'd probably hide under the desk. :p I dislike the non-posters/voters. All the active people could be construed as 'iffy' one way or another. But if pushed, I'd go for Gwaihir. Why? Because I can't spell his name without copy/pasting it and he's next below me in the 'alive' section. Unhelpful? Probably. No less than a fair few other posts today. :p
 
LAMISM
look at me I'm so moddy. Don't want to feel left out

Also, Zemaj is at 2 votes, Thy at 1, and flub at 1 I think.
 
vote: zemaj

bombs can be town roles, as they hope to kill the person who kills them. Townsfolk normally aren't up for killing at night as we enjoy to see the whites of the persons eyes via a good old-fashioned lynch. I be a lurky jerky this game so that I would make it past day 3 and not get lynched for my typical scummy gameplay. Yes, lamist.
I do agree with zemaj's choices several posts up that, iirc, "sealed the deal"/"struck the nail on the head"/"etc." for him.

flubwert is going to have to go next. Mainly, just wanted to use our favorite summer drink Thyaid's rendition of glibbucket. :cheese:

Phil, you really going to lock zemaj?
 
Yes, I will lock zemaj. I don't think he is bomb and I think town is safe in doing so. If I'm correct, we take out a mafia and town is a little safer. If I'm wrong, we're (zemaj and I) both dead and we can all laugh about it later. I'm sure mafia would get their kicks out of that.
 
I still don't get how my claim was sketchy, apparently claiming bomb = getting lynched, just to see... but anyway, I'm done trying to understand your reasoning on that topic, as it is quite flawed.

Also, scum don't usually stick up for other scum unless there is a mass to hide in... they will just bulk up approval, they tend to not be a voice. I am pretty sure I am the only one who, openly, seriously considered Gory's claim in a whole lot of "Lynch him!".

1) Sigh. A bomb claim does not mean you are mafia, although I would say it seems to be claimed by mafia about as often as it is actually in the game. I think you are mafia because of how you acted before and after the claim, as well as when you claimed it.
2) Sometimes. And sometimes if they think people will agree with them, they try and help partners not get lynched.

the point is that lynching me will accomplish 2 things... killing a townie, and killing a townie. Scum WILL NOT lynch/lock me... unless they are suicidal or something. Scum don't win by going 1-1, it goes against the entire point of that element in mafia games. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge this just make me even more sure that you have another, non-town agenda.

to be perfectly clear, I have no idea. I know that I am a bomb, no notes as to triggers, specifically. I deduce that it will be standard lynch/lock/NK retaliate-kill... if it hits last vote, locker, or lyncher, you would need to ask pharphis.

This is why bombs are less useful... I would hope any targeted-switching would opt to target the bomb-claim as the second, twofer & all.

No, it just means that I am almost completely sure you are scum. The goal of the town is to lynch scum, therefore you need to be lynched, even if you claim bomb. Example: FOE

As for the plan, what has happened is pretty much what I expected, and the reason I voted early. We currently have what, 3 votes on you (one of which is your own and could be taken off easily), one on flubb, and one on Thy? Getting anyone lynched in this game has been hard enough, and then you propose a switch in targets after we almost have a lynch? We have missed 2 lynch's already, and you are looking for a third?

As for your claim, I can't say how your role works. But I know that if I received a PM saying I was a bomb, I would have immediately sent one back asking how it was triggered. Apparently that did not interest you?

vote: zemaj

bombs can be town roles, as they hope to kill the person who kills them. Townsfolk normally aren't up for killing at night as we enjoy to see the whites of the persons eyes via a good old-fashioned lynch. I be a lurky jerky this game so that I would make it past day 3 and not get lynched for my typical scummy gameplay. Yes, lamist.
I do agree with zemaj's choices several posts up that, iirc, "sealed the deal"/"struck the nail on the head"/"etc." for him.

What are you agreeing with here? Why are you voting zemaj?
 
I was hoping that there would be more posts. :(

So it looks like four votes for zemaj (assuming Phil does actually put his vote on him later to lock).

I'm not convinced zemaj is the best person to lynch but I am convinced that a no-lynch is a bad thing for the town. As I've said, I won't lock him and I'd rather not vote for him but if it looks like the alternative is a no-lynch then ... fine. I should be around later if there's a mad change of votes. (Sorry zemaj; I just hate no-lynches.)

Vote: zemaj
 
Just made up a big old vote table. Trying to figure otu how to condense the information, but what I will say is that an examination of voting history, together with some stuff I re-read while collecting the votes, convinces me Val is 99% townie (I mention this because I've been on his case for a while). Note that Val was voted for by both FoE and Goryani on day 2. Two scum ain't going to start an alternative lynch train on another scum to save one of their hides.

Thyiad I'm very suspicious of. Between Kitteh and herself, lots of non-contributive posting, and no less than 4 what I would call "limp-in" votes (voting late on for what looks like the inevitable lynchee).

Noodle, Flub, Coju, and Leo are all very similar. Small contributions, very few votes (only one in the case of Leo).

I just noticed Flub was the first one to question Gory, early on day 2.

More stuff to come as I read.
 
Bah... too tired to think anymore.

Vote: Zemaj

I have my doubts, but there you go phil. Lock away, if you wish.

If Zemaj comes up town, Thyiad and Gwaihir would be the first two to look at.
 
I don't mind locking zemaj. I don't believe his bomb claim, and if it's true and he does kill me, I will haunt his *** like a well you get the picture.

Vote: zemaj
 
So if zemaj is locked, can we unvote and vote someone else too; maybe get two lynches?

I'm thinking flubwert.
 
So if zemaj is locked, can we unvote and vote someone else too; maybe get two lynches?

I'm thinking flubwert.

Only 1 lynch per day in this game.

I would vote count but I'm out and about and you're all probably correct on zemaj being locked, in which case he will be lynched at day end.
 
What are you agreeing with here? Why are you voting zemaj?

post 797:
these two comments have sealed it for me (and were much the basis of my suggestion to make them lock me)... if not scum-slip, contender for most LAMIST quotes of the game.








I still don't get how my claim was sketchy, apparently claiming bomb = getting lynched, just to see... but anyway, I'm done trying to understand your reasoning on that topic, as it is quite flawed.


Also, scum don't usually stick up for other scum unless there is a mass to hide in... they will just bulk up approval, they tend to not be a voice. I am pretty sure I am the only one who, openly, seriously considered Gory's claim in a whole lot of "Lynch him!".

:where he talked about val and phil's lamist posts. I voted for zemaj b/c he wanted it.

Jason believes that val is town now, eh? And y'all gave me flak for not being there to lynch him when I called out the 6 the next day.
 
Welcome to the chopping block, zemaj! Is noodle, the lock-e, going to get the deadQThread also?
What are your feels on the matter?
 
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