Roles of Madness. Mafia Thread

[Kestegs]

You bring up Gwaihir's name.



You inquire in order to clear Gwaihir's name.



You state he isn't a threat in your eyes



But then you flop back...What happened??



And you Vote...

I have found you suspicious for quite some time. I know you stated you won't be around for awhile. But can someone else help me understand why I should change my vote??


Vote: kestegs

I didn't inquire that to clear his name, but to confirm information from another source.

I didn't see him as a threat at that time, but right now I see him as the best lynch choice. At best case he is neural and will never be completely behind the town.

Pyro: I'm reluctant to believe any cop results st this point due to history.

 

[Gwaihir]

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The awesome thing about fake scum claims is when they mess up and contradict themselves.

Vote: Gwaihir

I missed the contradiction, I have 2 conditions for my win

1)Must be alive
2)Everyone else alive must have one of my holy wards

I do not need to be around at the end of the game, I can fufill my win condition before either town or mafia do.

 

[FredOfErik]

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The awesome thing about fake scum claims is when they mess up and contradict themselves.

Vote: Gwaihir

"I win when I am alive and everybody has a ward"

"I don't have to survive until the end of the game only until everybody has a ward"

I don't see the contradiction. If he is alive and everybody has a ward he wins - he isn't like a survivor, because it isn't necessary for him to be around when the game ends.

 

[RlyehExiled]

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Votes as of #836

Flubbucket(1): [Lozhinge]
Gwahir(2): Caluin Graye, Sath, kestegs
Sath(2): Fred, Coju
coju: Lozhinge
Kestegs: glib

6 and a half hours left, 7 to lynch

 

[LozHinge the Unhinged]

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Someone tell me who to vote for. I have no idea. coju is acting scummy but I'm informed (in thread) that he must be townie. flubbucket was acting suspiciously before now but he isn't a good choice to lynch today, I gather. Gwaihir was lying about his wincon but actually he wasn't.

kegs leapt to the top of my suspicion board with his "Pyro: I'm reluctant to believe any cop results st this point due to history" because this is what a scum-aligned player would say to deflect heat from himself or his buddies - but with all the dreams we've had (with who knows what effects), maybe he has a point?

Oh, and FoE's investigation on me was sodding blocked. Fabulous, truly fabulous.

Somebody just tell me who to vote for, please. :banghead:

 

[FredOfErik]

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Someone tell me who to vote for. I have no idea. coju is acting scummy but I'm informed (in thread) that he must be townie. flubbucket was acting suspiciously before now but he isn't a good choice to lynch today, I gather. Gwaihir was lying about his wincon but actually he wasn't.

kegs leapt to the top of my suspicion board with his "Pyro: I'm reluctant to believe any cop results st this point due to history" because this is what a scum-aligned player would say to deflect heat from himself or his buddies - but with all the dreams we've had (with who knows what effects), maybe he has a point?

Oh, and FoE's investigation on me was sodding blocked. Fabulous, truly fabulous.

Somebody just tell me who to vote for, please. :banghead:

Sathoris .

 

[Caluin Graye]

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I missed the contradiction, I have 2 conditions for my win

1)Must be alive
2)Everyone else alive must have one of my holy wards

I do not need to be around at the end of the game, I can fufill my win condition before either town or mafia do.

Unvote: Gwaihir

Okay, I guess I can see that. It was a strange way you worded the victory condition in the second quote which caused me to question it. Or else I read it strangely. I'm still not positive you're telling the truth about it. For now, my apologies.

Oh, and FoE's investigation on me was sodding blocked. Fabulous, truly fabulous.

Feigned aggravation? Subtle gloating? It almost seems like you expected something like this to happen.

Somebody just tell me who to vote for, please.

This was the same strategy that Valhauros used in the WIFOA game. Let the town make the decisions for him and just ride along. Worked pretty well for him too. Trying to repeat history?

 

[flubbucket1]

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I have moments of having left a WIFOA game only to have entered another...:dizzy:

 

[LozHinge the Unhinged]

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Unvote: coju
Vote: Sathoris

Why? It's an Alexander and the Gordian Knot thing. Plus, I trust FoE's suggestion, whether or not he expected me to act on it.

CG, there was nothing whatsoever feigned about my aggravation. I have to say though, after FoE said he'd investigated me, I half-expected him to get no result - for the simple reason that this outcome would have thoroughly irritated me ... and I couldn't imagine not being irritated at this time.

I'm not going to ride along, as Valhauros did last game. I will take positive action every time I get the opportunity to do so. But it should be obvious to all that good play will probably not be a feature of my contribution. I just cannot get my brain to work this round.

 

[Kestegs]

I missed the contradiction, I have 2 conditions for my win

1)Must be alive
2)Everyone else alive must have one of my holy wards

I do not need to be around at the end of the game, I can fufill my win condition before either town or mafia do.

Makes sense then. I wouldn't blame anyone for misunderstanding it though, it's very confusing.

I guess I'm around more than I thought, lots of breaks so far.

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

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kegs leapt to the top of my suspicion board with his "Pyro: I'm reluctant to believe any cop results st this point due to history" because this is what a scum-aligned player would say to deflect heat from himself or his buddies - but with all the dreams we've had (with who knows what effects), maybe he has a point?

I don't like it much either, even though we have had multiple dream effects we need to look at it practically. I'm inclined to believe that D1/N1 results were clouded by either the dream effect or Autti's framer/tailor role. From that point on though Autti was lynched the following day, and the next story had nothing to do with "friend from foe" nonsense. The sun blocking the moon, and moon blocking the sun effects seem pretty straightforward to me at this point and assuming cop sanity I don't see a reason not to trust FoE's claim.

 

[LozHinge the Unhinged]

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[...] The sun blocking the moon, and moon blocking the sun effects seem pretty straightforward to me at this point and assuming cop sanity I don't see a reason not to trust FoE's claim.

Yes. This. :yes:

As an aside, can anyone come up with a reason why I shouldn't be suspicious of kestegs? My nearly useless and and practically non-existent spidey sense is tingling - or it would be if it weren't stone dead.

 

[Gwaihir]

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Unvote: Gwaihir

Okay, I guess I can see that. It was a strange way you worded the victory condition in the second quote which caused me to question it. Or else I read it strangely. I'm still not positive you're telling the truth about it. For now, my apologies.

I think I have PM'd RE about 5 times this game about specific details about my role. While not all were answered, I can understand being confused about how the role works. No apology needed, I assume so far you are just trying to find scum. I have tried to be clear, but it is not exactly easy.

This was the same strategy that Valhauros used in the WIFOA game. Let the town make the decisions for him and just ride along. Worked pretty well for him too. Trying to repeat history?

That is exactly what it reminded me of. Loz, who would be the top 3 on your scum list, and top 3 on your town list?

Sath - why are you so sure that there can not be multiple special win conditions in the game (assuming our SK also has a special win condition)? I actually was not at all surprised - it seems like a legitimate way to balance out a town full of power roles.

 

[LozHinge the Unhinged]

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Top three town (obviously not including me)
Fred
Gory
<Pyro>

Top three scum
Sathoris
kestegs
flubb

I actually don't have a top three town list, but if forced, I would include Pyro in this. I have no reads, no voting records and I'm guessing that the people I've listed above are actually all still alive. I realise that I am over-playing the "clueless townie" card, but I am a whole new kind of clueless this round. I just cannot concentrate long enough to get a proper grip on this game.

Sorry for poor play :ashamed:

 

[Sathoris]

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Just for fun and giggles, any valid reason you're voting me over two others who have shown us a lot more valid reasons? Erik at least made a feeble attempt at it and given his roleclaim I don't doubt his intentions, but Coju and Loz, two highly suspect people already, are just ghosting along trying to steer a lynch away from Gwaihir and, shockingly, coju.

Something to think about for you undecided voters..

 

[flubbucket1]

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One quick point there LozHinge. Day one and day two I voted for Autti a confirmed mafia.

 

[flubbucket1]

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Bad Ash(0): [Ankeli]
Valharous(5): [Sath], Lozhinge the unhinged, [fred], noodle, [kegs],laarz, [koral], bad ash, Coju
Sathoris(0): [Pyrotech]
Coju(0): [Goryani]
Koral(9): fred, caluin graye, goryani, ankeli, sath, pyrotech, Kegs, Gwahir, Valhauros

9 to lynch

just over 7 hours left

Korial was lynched

Night 3

I find this worth pointing out. Valhauros was not mafia correct??

 

[Caluin Graye]

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I find this worth pointing out. Valhauros was not mafia correct??

We don't know that. Some may assume that, but don't know it. What makes you positive he was not mafia? You have information available to you that we don't?

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

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Heres my top fun facts list if anyone really wants to read them since I'm an "undecided voter" as Sath puts it.

Coju:
- confirmed to have had cop role
- investigated with result of innocent
- poor playing

Poor play included, to try and lynch him with both of those attributes at this point doesn't sit right with me, and Sath's constant pushing of it makes him look worse to me. Unless goryani, FoE, and coju are all working together then coju turning up mafia doesn't seem likely.

Loz:
- Poor play, not following the game well enough (or pretending not to)
- Asking who he should vote for.

Both point to possibility of being anti-town and I can see this as a possibility. Not really much else to say here.

Gwaihir:
- Role claim is an odd one, but not impossible
- I believe the possibility of two special win conditions in this game, wasn't there ever a game with a village idiot and a sk in the same game?
- Since BA tracked him he only visited noodle and noodle turned up dead, possible that he killed him? Sure, higher possibility that Ankeli killed noodle? Maybe, you decide.

Kegs:
-Recent flip flop between wanting and not wanting to vote Gwaihir has me confused.
-Inability to believe cop results concerns me.

This one actually came up higher on my list as of recently. Between him and CG and I would say they have had the most middle of the road activity, scum hunting but not much and votes all in the middle somewhere, but not really diverting from the path of the town majority.

Oh, and flubb if you keep bringing up that day 1 and 2 that you voted for a confirmed mafia, its going to make you look more like you did it on purpose rather then did it for town reasons.

 

[LozHinge the Unhinged]

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When I voted Val, the feeling was that he was a good lynch target. IIRC, the next time I saw the thread, korial had been locked. <shrug>

And Sath, I really have no valid reason for voting you ahead of anyone else or indeed, voting you at all. You just happen not to be Gory, Fred or myself, the only three players I won't be voting for.

flubb - yes, you did vote Autti two days running. I would do that myself, if I were a mafioso trying to distance myself from a teammate. Someone asked me for my top three scum list - I gave it, including your name, but I would not be in the slightest bit surprised if none of the three in my list are actually scum. I really haven't the foggiest clue who the scum are this round.