Roles of Madness. Mafia Thread

[flubbucket1]

Re: Roles of Madness. Mafia Thread

...RE said he'd make up new roles. That role doesn't fit Noodle's playstyle at all. Why post info about a role that obviously isn't true for this game?...

So you're saying RE is crafting roles for players based on their playstyle?! What a load of crap!!! Roles are randomized boob!

And what makes you think this role isn't true for this game?? All I'm doing is bringing information to the table.

But you may continue to rage on because it does help to fill the void left by my lack of spam.

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

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So now you join FoE,Pryo and CG in the FoS of myself, if you care to check your facts, I was the head of security *cop* in that game, killed by the ninja on the second night.

What does FoS stand for and why am I being grouped in with people?

So you're saying RE is crafting roles for players based on their playstyle?! What a load of crap!!! Roles are randomized boob!

And what makes you think this role isn't true for this game?? All I'm doing is bringing information to the table.

But you may continue to rage on because it does help to fill the void left by my lack of spam.

I think the issue is that he wasn't "playing to that role" or his playstyle doesn't fit it, or at least thats what Sath thinks. I think if you disregard the first part about actively scum hunting it would actually probably make a great anti town role description, because they would be able to force a townie into voting for a confirmed or somewhat confirmed townie causing them to look scummy. This is of course speculation though because we have no idea what noodle's role actually did.

 

[Gwaihir]

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What does FoS stand for

Finger of suspicion if I remember correctly.

 

[Kestegs]

That's wrong. Completely wrong.

Looks like I did say that... Hmmm.... :scratchchin:

I'll have to look back and figure out why, but it may have been that I didn't think I investigated him, as I tried to investigate pyro on pre-game, and had to pm the mod when koral was getting lynched to figure out who the read was actually on.


As for who I investigated n2, cannot remember. Be lying if I told y'all otherwise.

Seriously? Could you make yourself look any worse?

N2 was the global role block btw.

I can now see myself voting especially for coju or gwaihir.

 

[LozHinge the Unhinged]

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It isn't guaranteed that I will be back on again before day's end. Based upon what I have seen so far, and on the principle of LaL:

Unvote: flubbucket
Vote: coju

If I can log on again and if the voting is going elsewhere, I may be persuaded to change my vote.

 

[FredOfErik]

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When exactly?

The end of N1. In the same PM as my new role description after stealing Gory's role.

@Gory: Didn't you investigate Laarz on D1 and get the result of innocent? Do you think there is any possiblility that this could be a false result due to the D1 story? Since coju was in fact an investigative role and he got the wrong read on korial what is the chance of this? Do you think only night results were altered? The only reason I'm thinking of this is because Laarz is one of FoE's top suspects.

I totally forgot about this when I wrote the list. I apologize.

Yes to the D1 investigation target and result.

Definitely yes to the possibility it could be a false positive. Before obtaining the D1 result, I wondered if the dream caused all mafia to be godfather for the duration of the dream. I think that is the most likely scenario right now since godfather was not an ability listed with korial's lynch.

Laarz could also have been affected. I wouldn't put enough faith in the innocent result from D1 or N1 investigation to outweigh any scummy behavior I see.

This.

It isn't guaranteed that I will be back on again before day's end. Based upon what I have seen so far, and on the principle of LaL:

Unvote: flubbucket
Vote: coju

If I can log on again and if the voting is going elsewhere, I may be persuaded to change my vote.

I know coju is playing terrible (or so it seems). But really.. I see no reason to believe that my result from D2 should be wrong. On top of this he has the role thief, which has proved it self quite useful so far. I'm not willing to run the risk of lynching coju. Not yet.

 

[Kestegs]

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It isn't guaranteed that I will be back on again before day's end. Based upon what I have seen so far, and on the principle of LaL:

Unvote: flubbucket
Vote: coju

If I can log on again and if the voting is going elsewhere, I may be persuaded to change my vote.

Isn't LaL generally a bad tactic? Not that I disagree in this case, but I find it odd that you would use that reasoning.

I know coju is playing terrible (or so it seems). But really.. I see no reason to believe that my result from D2 should be wrong. On top of this he has the role thief, which has proved it self quite useful so far. I'm not willing to run the risk of lynching coju. Not yet.

You are right on that reasoning I suppose. Gwihir is a much safer lynch and still offers us good info.

Vote:Gwaihir

I won't be around much more today, I have a seminar all day. I will try to pop in on my lunch break (7ish hours from now) to change my vote if things are moving in a different direction.

 

[FredOfErik]

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I also do not agree with a Gwaihir lynch. Gory already pretty much stated, why I think it's a bad idea.

I have investigated Loz. I have not received a result yet. If I do not get a result, or if I get an innocent result, I still see sath as the best option.

 

[Sathoris]

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Lynching a non-townie doesn't mean the town stands to lose anything from the lynch. From the standpoint of mafia, lynching the missionary is equivalent to lynching a townie because of lynch vote majority calculations. Any non-mafia lynched is like giving mafia an extra night kill.

This is all theoretical untill we reach the point where the mafia might outnumber town. In that case there aren't a lot of people left. In which case Gwaihir, if telling the truth, will work towards his own wincon and will play towards his wincon, not the town's. While a townie will always have the town's interest at heart. Town > Neutral

I also do not agree with a Gwaihir lynch. Gory already pretty much stated, why I think it's a bad idea.

I have investigated Loz. I have not received a result yet. If I do not get a result, or if I get an innocent result, I still see sath as the best option.

What did Gory said why you think lynching Gwaihir is a bad idea? All he said was that Gwaihir likely isn't the SK, but may well be anti-town..

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

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I still think its very possible that you won't get a result due to the sun and moon thing which is very unfortunate right now since we are so divided. I also thought Sath was scummy yesterday but we obviously had a better target. We need to pull it together if were going to get a lynch by day end. Both of Loz's voting choices today just seem like they aren't making any sense, yeah sure LaL but coju is essentially confirmed as having had a cop role, bad playing or not.

 

[Kestegs]

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I still think its very possible that you won't get a result due to the sun and moon thing which is very unfortunate right now since we are so divided. I also thought Sath was scummy yesterday but we obviously had a better target. We need to pull it together if were going to get a lynch by day end. Both of Loz's voting choices today just seem like they aren't making any sense, yeah sure LaL but coju is essentially confirmed as having had a cop role, bad playing or not.

Confirmed as having a cop roll, yes. Confirmed as being town, no.

 

[Sathoris]

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Given the information we have. Do we lynch a player who's been lying, missing information in the game, contradicted himself by wanting to kill Korial even though he got an innocent, is chaotic and named a scum town and blamed it on the N0 dream effect which wasn't in effect for N1, when he used his investigation. And his only other result is on a dead player, already basically confirmed by the fact that he's dead and his role was what he said.

Or someone who visisted a player who ended up dead and claims a special wincon that is not only near impossible but also makes no sense. Besides we have had two different kill flavour implying an SK, who has the special wincon. Two special wincons isn't something you'd normally have and if there was the second special wincon would have a role more important to the game.

Either way these two lynches are imo worthy of pursuing over anything else. Unless someone can point to someone who has a more checkered past and scummy play? I don't think so..

 

[FredOfErik]

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Confirmed as having a cop roll, yes. Confirmed as being town, no.

But do however have a innocent cop resut.

Given the information we have. Do we lynch a player who's been lying, missing information in the game, contradicted himself by wanting to kill Korial even though he got an innocent, is chaotic and named a scum town and blamed it on the N0 dream effect which wasn't in effect for N1, when he used his investigation. And his only other result is on a dead player, already basically confirmed by the fact that he's dead and his role was what he said.

I will not be voting for coju today. He has role thief, is confirmed to have had a cop role (not a likely mafia role), and have been investigated and found innocent. I see no reason not to trust my investigation. I find it rather scummy that you (kegs, sath, loz) are all advocating this lynch.

I'm against a gwaihir lynch. I don't see him hurting town for now, I don't think his claim is ridiculous, and I don't think "holy ward" sounds like it has anything with anti-town to do.

I won't be around a lot and not at day end. It's my birthday today and I'm having a party later on and until then I need to go buy beer, etc, etc.

I could see my self changing my vote to Gwaihir, if that is really where town wants to go. But I strongly hope that I'm not the only one seeing sath and loz as better lynch options.

Somebody vote for somebody. we only have 8~9 hours left.

 

[Sathoris]

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My vote's on Gwaihir, FoE. You're apparently voting for me based on my voting record so you probably should know that..

And again, make a case out of lynching me or Loz then. Just saying you find us suspicious and hoping that others will vote us isn't helping the town..

 

[flubbucket1]

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Wow, busy night for sure.

It doesn't seem like a prostitute could actually cause a kill, but maybe I don't understand the roll.

I notice that Val died of poison, the same thing that Asrrin died of on N1. The others have been different styles from what I remember.

I think that Laarz should fit into the same voting boat as Gwaihir and Val, as he did say he would vote for Korial but wanted to wait for the claim as we had plenty of time. I think that is the same thing I would have done in his situation.

You bring up Gwaihir's name.

FoE: So you received a PM that you had received a holy ward?

You inquire in order to clear Gwaihir's name.

Okay, good to know.

That pretty well confirms Gwaihir in my mind then. Too bad the rolethief is just going to take his awesome power.

Of course he is still not town, but I see him as at least working to help the town at this point in time.

You state he isn't a threat in your eyes

I'm leaning towards gwaihir at this point. Sathoris bothers me a bit still though, his style has changed a lot from d1 and that doesn't sit well with me.

I'm not convinced laarz is scum either, but Korial getting read wrong on d1 makes me suspicious of him.

Busy, busy, more later!

But then you flop back...What happened??

Isn't LaL generally a bad tactic? Not that I disagree in this case, but I find it odd that you would use that reasoning.



You are right on that reasoning I suppose. Gwihir is a much safer lynch and still offers us good info.

Vote:Gwaihir

I won't be around much more today, I have a seminar all day. I will try to pop in on my lunch break (7ish hours from now) to change my vote if things are moving in a different direction.

And you Vote...

I have found you suspicious for quite some time. I know you stated you won't be around for awhile. But can someone else help me understand why I should change my vote??


Vote: kestegs

 

[FredOfErik]

Re: Roles of Madness. Mafia Thread

Pyro was right. My investigation was blocked.

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

Re: Roles of Madness. Mafia Thread

Confirmed as having a cop roll, yes. Confirmed as being town, no.

Do you not trust FoE's investigation results?

My vote's on Gwaihir, FoE. You're apparently voting for me based on my voting record so you probably should know that..

And again, make a case out of lynching me or Loz then. Just saying you find us suspicious and hoping that others will vote us isn't helping the town..

Actually, coju is voting based on your voting record.

I have found you suspicious for quite some time. I know you stated you won't be around for awhile. But can someone else help me understand why I should change my vote??


Vote: kestegs

Oh no, flubb is starting to make some sense in this game, what is the world coming to?

Pyro was right. My investigation was blocked.

I is teh smart.

Regarding Gwaihir, I could vote for him, but hes not my top choice, I rather see Sath, Loz, or Laarz on the chopping block. Kesteg's latest flip flop thing is interesting as well.

 

[Caluin Graye]

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I hand out a holy ward every night, but they don't actually do anything.
I win if I am alive and if everyone else alive has one of my wards.

It does seem pretty difficult, but hey you play the hand you get dealt. I must admit it is a very interesting role to play, as I am just trying to guess who will be around at the end of the game. Also I am praying as hard as I can that the repeat foreshadowed is not another global roleblock. Also, at least I don't have to survive to the end of the game, only until everyone has my wards, so not a complete survivor.

The awesome thing about fake scum claims is when they mess up and contradict themselves.

Vote: Gwaihir

 

[flubbucket1]

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In my "mind" I see Gwaihir's role just as he stated it. Just something RE included as confusion so the tracker will have another character (red herring) to suspect/follow. It is, after all, a special wincon. I see the deaths as coincidence and Gwaihir's candor as enough to move on for the moment. I do suspect LozHinge as a potential killer and I'm not sure of Laarz innocence either. My vote stays where it is until convincing evidence shows me otherwise.

 

[flubbucket1]

Re: Roles of Madness. Mafia Thread

Wow lying is a bad thing isn't it