Roles of Madness. Mafia Thread
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Not really, Goryani extensivly responding to those posts is. I had my snappy comments ready but deleted em because it's useless. Discussing the discussion about day one lynches is retarded and for some reason pops up every game. Everyone somehow has a new opinion and everytime it gets attributed to being scum. Yeah the posts weren't very intelligent, but this almost looks like Goryani got trolled.
If we're gonna lynch random on day one then say so, don't use that reason to lynch a first time player. Goryani should know better.
Not really, Goryani extensivly responding to those posts is. I had my snappy comments ready but deleted em because it's useless. Discussing the discussion about day one lynches is retarded and for some reason pops up every game. Everyone somehow has a new opinion and everytime it gets attributed to being scum. Yeah the posts weren't very intelligent, but this almost looks like Goryani got trolled.
If we're gonna lynch random on day one then say so, don't use that reason to lynch a first time player. Goryani should know better.
flubbucket1
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Role claim!!
Looks like a loaf to me.
May as well start my out of context quotes now huh Valhauros??
Role claim!!
Looks like a loaf to me.
May as well start my out of context quotes now huh Valhauros??
flubbucket1
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Goryani's usual postings are a wall with quotes and such. Why would this day one be any different? Simply because it's made of fluff and no substance? His questions of the "new" people also seems ordinary as well.
Goryani's usual postings are a wall with quotes and such. Why would this day one be any different? Simply because it's made of fluff and no substance? His questions of the "new" people also seems ordinary as well.
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they can't choose the same twice in a row see REs post. I am curious by what he means by dreams effect day step or night step from when they are cast, but then he said they are only cast at night. That implys the dreams are only around during day (which makes no sense) .....
Like I said in my post it was just a question as a relative new commer about how the lynch everyday works when everyone has a powerrole. My main reasoning was if we didn't lynch D1 it gives everyone a chance to use their role and thus have more information. Anyway it was just a question for the more experience people as to how the lynch every day works with power roles. Kegs post explained it very well (without jumping down my throat for asking a noob question of the more experienced people).
RQS for the new players (Solar Ice, Autti, Skjolde):
Do you think mafia have power roles? If so, what power role do you think mafia might have?
RQS for everyone:
How long do you think dreams can last?
How many dreams do you think mafia have to choose from?[/QUOTE]
-See above for my first answer (quoted RE).
-I am not sure, I would assume that it is a largeish pool
they can't choose the same twice in a row see REs post. I am curious by what he means by dreams effect day step or night step from when they are cast, but then he said they are only cast at night. That implys the dreams are only around during day (which makes no sense) .....
Like I said in my post it was just a question as a relative new commer about how the lynch everyday works when everyone has a powerrole. My main reasoning was if we didn't lynch D1 it gives everyone a chance to use their role and thus have more information. Anyway it was just a question for the more experience people as to how the lynch every day works with power roles. Kegs post explained it very well (without jumping down my throat for asking a noob question of the more experienced people).
RQS for the new players (Solar Ice, Autti, Skjolde):
Do you think mafia have power roles? If so, what power role do you think mafia might have?
RQS for everyone:
How long do you think dreams can last?
How many dreams do you think mafia have to choose from?[/QUOTE]
-See above for my first answer (quoted RE).
-I am not sure, I would assume that it is a largeish pool
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I, and I'm sure many others as well, await the results.
You should temper your words.
D1 discussion about D1 lynches sometimes yields insights about players making it easier to find the mafia. "Sometimes" is enough incentive to undertake the discussion. The "sometimes" seems to occur much more frequently in day start games such as this one.
This topic repeatedly pops up because mafia so often are happy and willing to avoid a D1 lynch. In a recent game, 100% of the scum (you were one!) took actions that resulted in a no lynch on D1 of a day start game. That may be an extreme example, but it isn't an isolated incident. Effort undertaken (lack thereof) to secure a D1 lynch serves as a surprisingly accurate scum detector. It's more accurate than a random lynch and it's accurate enough for me to have no qualms of lynching anyone using that litmus test on D1.
I am utterly confused. I NEVER advocate a random lynch on D1 and I'm not doing so this game.
You can always take your cell phone to the loo for use during the dozen trips in the middle of the night. Perhaps keep a laptop in there.
The Dreaming God being mafia instead of neutral is a pretty big twist. I'd wager the rest of the abilities are closer to the wiki entry than not.
I, and I'm sure many others as well, await the results.
You should temper your words.
D1 discussion about D1 lynches sometimes yields insights about players making it easier to find the mafia. "Sometimes" is enough incentive to undertake the discussion. The "sometimes" seems to occur much more frequently in day start games such as this one.
This topic repeatedly pops up because mafia so often are happy and willing to avoid a D1 lynch. In a recent game, 100% of the scum (you were one!) took actions that resulted in a no lynch on D1 of a day start game. That may be an extreme example, but it isn't an isolated incident. Effort undertaken (lack thereof) to secure a D1 lynch serves as a surprisingly accurate scum detector. It's more accurate than a random lynch and it's accurate enough for me to have no qualms of lynching anyone using that litmus test on D1.
I am utterly confused. I NEVER advocate a random lynch on D1 and I'm not doing so this game.
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What drives this question, Ash? Did Krasus post something that would seem to indicate he has one?
What drives this question, Ash? Did Krasus post something that would seem to indicate he has one?
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Thanks for speaking for him? haha. I can wait.
Just want to know if he has one or not and see what he says
Thanks for speaking for him? haha. I can wait.
Just want to know if he has one or not and see what he says
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What game Goryani? Cause its not the one you were looking at.
And you contradict yourself there. You say scum usually work towards a no lynch. Yet Jcakes is a new player and as such would likely just want to lynch townies and wouldn't think about causing no lynches on a day where a no lynch would us of a whole lot of info.
And your vote is random cause your reasoning likely why Jcakes said what he said. Besides imo he only asked what we thought about it and hardly made a case out of it. People who made a discussion out of it nowbring it back.
What game Goryani? Cause its not the one you were looking at.
And you contradict yourself there. You say scum usually work towards a no lynch. Yet Jcakes is a new player and as such would likely just want to lynch townies and wouldn't think about causing no lynches on a day where a no lynch would us of a whole lot of info.
And your vote is random cause your reasoning likely why Jcakes said what he said. Besides imo he only asked what we thought about it and hardly made a case out of it. People who made a discussion out of it nowbring it back.
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Bloody phone..
"wouldn't think about causing no lynches on a day where a no lynch wouldn't give us of a whole lot of info."
"And your vote is random cause your reasoning why Jcakes said what he said doesn't make sense."
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Just nitpicking here, but it doesn't sit right with me.
Bloody phone..
"wouldn't think about causing no lynches on a day where a no lynch wouldn't give us of a whole lot of info."
"And your vote is random cause your reasoning why Jcakes said what he said doesn't make sense."
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Just nitpicking here, but it doesn't sit right with me.
korialstraz
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Wall of text incoming. Sorry for not being any more active than I was at the start of the day. I thought I posted here that I'd be away until the evening (or night as it is now), because I helped a friend to trouble shoot some computer issues. And since we needed a new high end video card to do so, I brought my own.
Why do you think it's just flavour? Every single game I've been so far has revealed some clues and hints in the story, nothing too obvious, but they are there. You're right about not needing to discuss the story any further atm though (imo). With that said, I will reference the story if it makes sense doing so while discussing the dream and what effects it might have.
I can only think of two reasons.
1. They don't have the dreams fully explained to them, so they have almost as much guess work to do, just like we do with the story hints.
2. If a dream is chosen that only affects night actions, then it would make sense that they are applied either during the upcoming day phase or the next night phase. Especially if since the story seems to hint at a dream that will interfere with investigative results.
Answered above. I'd say either 1 day phase or 1 night phase, depending on the dream.
Absolutely no idea on that part. If they have a mix of reusable and 1 shot dreams, then maybe 6-7? If they are only 1 use, 12-14? Ofc this is impossible to guess at I think, as it also largely depends on how powerful the dream effects are.
If they have dreams that can be used multiple times, there needs to be some restriction. If there aren't, scum can basically use the current dream (if it turns out to block investigations) and be immune to investigations. Most likely they are either 1 use or a mix where 2 (maybe 3) are reusable.
Or he was doing just what I did, and tried figuring out what the dream actually did. Granted he did so very early, and in a very direct manner. I'd have done the exact same thing in my first game, so I don't see much scum there tbh. I'm a bit interested in why my name as well as the names of others discussing the effects the dream could have on investigative results where not mentioned at all.
I've got my red flag ready...
Well maybe. I would be surprised if they didn't get to know anything of what the dreams could possibly do. But at the same time it sounds a bit OP to know the exact mechanics of dreams, considering that every player (including scum) is supposed to have a power role of sorts.
No? If you only ask that because I was active at the start of the game, and not at all afterwards for several hours then I don't understand what you hope to gain from it. Especially since I posted in this very thread that I would be away.
@Sath: Always so fun to see how you (among others) play mafia games! Feels good to be back in one. Looking forward to many days of fun! =D
Wall of text incoming. Sorry for not being any more active than I was at the start of the day. I thought I posted here that I'd be away until the evening (or night as it is now), because I helped a friend to trouble shoot some computer issues. And since we needed a new high end video card to do so, I brought my own.
Why do you think it's just flavour? Every single game I've been so far has revealed some clues and hints in the story, nothing too obvious, but they are there. You're right about not needing to discuss the story any further atm though (imo). With that said, I will reference the story if it makes sense doing so while discussing the dream and what effects it might have.
I can only think of two reasons.
1. They don't have the dreams fully explained to them, so they have almost as much guess work to do, just like we do with the story hints.
2. If a dream is chosen that only affects night actions, then it would make sense that they are applied either during the upcoming day phase or the next night phase. Especially if since the story seems to hint at a dream that will interfere with investigative results.
Answered above. I'd say either 1 day phase or 1 night phase, depending on the dream.
Absolutely no idea on that part. If they have a mix of reusable and 1 shot dreams, then maybe 6-7? If they are only 1 use, 12-14? Ofc this is impossible to guess at I think, as it also largely depends on how powerful the dream effects are.
If they have dreams that can be used multiple times, there needs to be some restriction. If there aren't, scum can basically use the current dream (if it turns out to block investigations) and be immune to investigations. Most likely they are either 1 use or a mix where 2 (maybe 3) are reusable.
Or he was doing just what I did, and tried figuring out what the dream actually did. Granted he did so very early, and in a very direct manner. I'd have done the exact same thing in my first game, so I don't see much scum there tbh. I'm a bit interested in why my name as well as the names of others discussing the effects the dream could have on investigative results where not mentioned at all.
I've got my red flag ready...
Well maybe. I would be surprised if they didn't get to know anything of what the dreams could possibly do. But at the same time it sounds a bit OP to know the exact mechanics of dreams, considering that every player (including scum) is supposed to have a power role of sorts.
No? If you only ask that because I was active at the start of the game, and not at all afterwards for several hours then I don't understand what you hope to gain from it. Especially since I posted in this very thread that I would be away.
@Sath: Always so fun to see how you (among others) play mafia games! Feels good to be back in one. Looking forward to many days of fun! =D
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For the record goryani this is my first gam here and I wasn't sure how you start so I as having some playful banter with Skj. I don't even know half the roles haha. But you do seem awfully intent on over analysisng which seems suspicious to me
For the record goryani this is my first gam here and I wasn't sure how you start so I as having some playful banter with Skj. I don't even know half the roles haha. But you do seem awfully intent on over analysisng which seems suspicious to me
korialstraz
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@Autti: Get used to it. You have a game of 21 players, 20 of which will be reading your posts, most of them looking for clues if the person is scum or not. Everything is analyzed, analyzed again, and if some scum is showing up, analyzed a third time for good measure.
Add to that some speculations, educated guesses and whatnot, and you can understand why it feels like everything is over-analyzed
@Autti: Get used to it. You have a game of 21 players, 20 of which will be reading your posts, most of them looking for clues if the person is scum or not. Everything is analyzed, analyzed again, and if some scum is showing up, analyzed a third time for good measure.
Add to that some speculations, educated guesses and whatnot, and you can understand why it feels like everything is over-analyzed
korialstraz
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Well I'm going to need some sleep. I planned on staying on longer, but it's 1.10 am and I got a job interview tomorrow. Granted it's at 2 pm, but need some time to prepare. Cya all tomorrow!
Well I'm going to need some sleep. I planned on staying on longer, but it's 1.10 am and I got a job interview tomorrow. Granted it's at 2 pm, but need some time to prepare. Cya all tomorrow!
