Mafia: The Gangland Massacre

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@ Massive - The remark about ray posting a 40 minute notice was for night 2, so that doesn't give us a clue for a non-mafia nk on night 3. There was a lot of time to give him those night 3 orders when he was away on a holiday to the gulags.

Not following you here. There are 3 NKs... Thyiad, Zhao, and Ankeli.
It is noteworthy to note that the first 2 kills had notes from the mafia note taker and the last did not have a note.... (I try to be funny and also fail)
Could be that the mafia shot themselves in the foot like we did with the princess.


 
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Yaago- Not liking the hey-bandwagon counteracts my suspicion for you based on the serdash bandwagon yesterday. Still think I don't know enough about you because of low and not very usefull posts. But I'm uncomfortable keeping my vote out there so I

unvote

not going to switch yet, it's just too early.

We still miss friedbananazzz at this point. Although he didn't put much into the game yesterday anyway(with yesterday I mean the day before yesterday as we were all crying on each others shoulders yesterday(and with yesterday I ofcourse also mean game-time yesterday, not thursday-yesterday(these are another set of brackets to add to my collection)))

While checking who hasn't posted I see I made an error in posting the living players earlier, I left thyiad on. This is the list of living players

Hey
SiTro
BobTheWarrior
ogogo on ice
friedbananazzzz
spigot
Erwwwd
Nolecub
aman
MassiveSin
Soylentred
Noammr
Orphan
Jaago

So total is 14 players
7 is half, I think 8 lynches and 9 locks. But I would appreciate input by ray on this.
 
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Not following you here. There are 3 NKs... Thyiad, Zhao, and Ankeli.
It is noteworthy to note that the first 2 kills had notes from the mafia note taker and the last did not have a note.... (I try to be funny and also fail)
Could be that the mafia shot themselves in the foot like we did with the princess.

this is my understanding of mafia notes from when I was cop last time and id'd the mafia note writer.

The mafia notewriter is a separate role and he may choose to write a note for the NK and PM the host.
If we have a mafia notewriter it is very possible he just didn't get the note to Ray on time.


 
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Being that we have no deaths that were not either NK or lynch and mafia probably did not off one of their own- I don't think we lost the mafia notewriter.
 
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Now we are talking about mafia note writers, what the hell?

Ray is making the stories up as he goes along, i highly doubt a note writer
 
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Not following you here. There are 3 NKs... Thyiad, Zhao, and Ankeli.
It is noteworthy to note that the first 2 kills had notes from the mafia note taker and the last did not have a note.... (I try to be funny and also fail)
Could be that the mafia shot themselves in the foot like we did with the princess.

I read your post wrong, didn't notice you wrote similar to night 2.

Don't think the note-thing is important, nothing was written in italics at the beginning of this day either, but I still assume the bit before ankeli was killed is just storytelling.


 
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The reason it wasn't used today is probably because the mafia want to keep those options open for the rest of the game. One interesting fact about the imprisoned players is that they tend to get killed sooner or later, since they cannot be imprisoned again, and being imprisoned reduces one's chance to be mafia.

I had this on the tip of my mind (to coin an expression) I'm really glad you voiced it Jaago, I think thats the best analysis of it so far.

Please bear in mind with my voting, I am primarily using it to get people to post at this stage (as well as see who jumps on the vote bandwagons), as we have now heard from hey, I want to hear from ogogo as well (Other people already seem to have orphan covered).

unvote: hey
vote: ogogo on ice




 
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Seems I wandered in at the right time.
I'm glad to see we've apparently moved on from whether the FBI role is pro-town or pro-mafia, it seemed we were chasing our tails in that respect, I just hope now people trying to figure out the note-writer doesn't turn into the same kind of thing.
Other things I've noticed: When I saw Zhao and Soy going at each other on the first day, I figured if either of them were NKed, my suspicions were going to land on the other, which means that I would have thought pre-Ankeli's death that Soy could be mafia. But with Ankeli's death I'm not so sure, since he was more-so supporting Soy.
Massive's reasoning about the votings for Serdash is very sound, I'm quite curious as to where Orphan has gotten off to as well.

Aman: Are you saying you can read the mafia's mind now?

And to round out this post, can people explain their reasons for voting Hey? I see spigot voted for him so Hey would speak up, but Soy's, Aman's and Nolecub's votes for him just lay out that they suspect him. The only thing I'm seeing is that he switched his vote so Serdash could be lynched, but there were lots of other people that did that as well. Just curious about peoples reasonings, right now Orphans at the top of my suspicions list.
 
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I find it interesting that Aman supposedly knows that the Mafia were aiming for another. That makes me very suspicious of him. Until further notice:

Vote : Aman
 
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You sound nervous Hey, got something to hide?

ogogo - I never said i could. But it's not hard to predict their actions.
 
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I never said Ankeli was definatley mafia, It's highly possible he is though.
 
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The Mafia wanted someone else dead.

Your saying it as if you know it 100%.
 
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oh

Thats because i do know the mafia tried to kill someone else. I stopped them, were you shocked at the result at the start of the day?
 
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I wasn't shocked, no more then at any other of the NK's. If Ankeli was mafia then, congratulations on stopping, and killing, him.
 
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I was in such a rush to get the post out yesterday that I forgot to include the votes needed for lynching.

With 14 people alive, it takes 8 to lynch and 9 to lock
 
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I'm inclined to trust Orphan for the moment. Sure, he hasn't made many posts compared to some, but what he has said has generally been well reasoned and not filler material. Also, if he's having trouble connecting then accusing him based on that is like accusing Aman of not contributing on Day 1. I'll wait until he posts again before judging.

But I have an honorable mention for Noleclub and Sitro are somewhat suspicious as well for being vote 1 & 2 on Serdash (but both unvoted and moved to Soy & Noleclub ended up flopping again back to Serdash in the end)

I'm going to have to call hax on this. How have you managed to read the votes I send via PM to Ray? (You didn't read anything else, did you? :hide:)

On the matter of voting for Serdash- looking in hindesight and going 'what the hell' on that is fine but when you look at dash's posts you can clearly see the reasoning for voting him off...the princess reference was lost on me and looked like silly 'ha-ha' cover for the lack of info in his posts, furthermore he didn't even make an effort to defend himself when he got a couple of votes but just ignored the matter.

Oh it was a good cover. I figured it was just what he'd say to me regardless of role and largely ignored it. Now I'm kicking myself wondering if I could or should have spotted it.

I am sure there is a blocking role in this game, whether it be pro-town or pro-mafia. That could have been used sucessfully last night and thus no imprisonment. I am highly doubtful that this is the case, but I am sure that a blocking role does exist.

Otherwise a good post, but... There's two cases where a player is removed from the town, and in the words of the umpire "cannot interact with the game whatsoever until the start of the next day", and you're still not sure if there's a roleblocker in the game or not?

Can you check if there's any anti-town factions for me?

As to my part in lynching Serdash. I already said yesterday that I wouldn't want to vote Soylentred, and serdash was the other person with a lot of votes, so... Too bad I couldn't see his hints. Anyways, I'm now even more convinced that Soylentred is town, since the imprisonment surely wasn't an accident, Soyl claimed to have a role and the mafia probably wanted to stop her from using it.

That brings me to the FBI guy. Nothing more than saying that the role is definitely restricted to one imprisonment per player, since it would really suck to be imprisoned for several days during the game. The reason it wasn't used today is probably because the mafia want to keep those options open for the rest of the game. One interesting fact about the imprisoned players is that they tend to get killed sooner or later, since they cannot be imprisoned again, and being imprisoned reduces one's chance to be mafia.

1) If the mafia wanted to stop Soylentred from using her "role", and they know she isn't mafia, then they could just kill her. At least as effective, no?

2) Regarding the second paragraph, I'm not sure how the imprisonment of a player at this stage affects someone's chances to be mafia. Some posts above there was an argument that the mafia could prefer imprisoning a buddy to townie at this stage. Also, you shouldn't know that the role is restricted in that way. It'd suck to be killed on Night 1 and never say a word in the game. Still happens. End of the day this isn't an especially balanced game anyway, but it is a lot of fun.

If we have a mafia notewriter it is very possible he just didn't get the note to Ray on time.

Or they weren't able to. It was the night 3 kill that was lonely.

Though to be fair the assumption of a note writer is a greater one to make than assuming an alignment for the roleblocker.



 
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