Zombie invasion Mafia game.

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I can't find Sathoris' role claim. Obviously Ash has claimed and feels strongly that Sathoris is a good guy. Could someone point it out for me? I simply don't have time to search every post as it's not "a few pages back".
 
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The other problem we have with the NK's from the mafia is that they will probably use that information received in any roleclaims (assuming they get them)

I would never put Sathoris in the confirmed townie status as he seems to think himself, more like provisional townie alignment - obviously Bad Ash has backed him up on the numbers side so that interesting. It would be interesting if either of these two are mafia but thats unlikely lynch wise.

So if I take me and these two out the equation who do we have left with strong evidence?

It seems is more like a game of pin the tail on the donkey. We need a successful lynch to start putting mafia under pressure, if we had a confirmed mafia lynch we could go over their interactions and posts for clues and missteps - we don't have that so whats the best course of action over the remaining hours of the day?

Best guess?
Lucky Chance?

Whats the gameplan people
 
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Whats the gameplan people

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What would be the point in causing a no-lynch unless Sath was Mafia?

If you stopped his lynch and he get's NK'd, you can say, 'Aha, I saved the town from wasting a lynch on a townie.'

ITY said:
So now we conspired to cause a lynch train on a member of "our" mafia, so when it was getting close to a lynch the target then gives out a fabricated claim, that we all then agree about the wording. Giving us a town read. So me, Noammr and Sathoris are all mafia behind this master plan then.

Have you been eating those strange looking Mushrooms from the forest again?

I must have missed it, how is Noammr involved in this?

Is eating shrooms an European thing? Here it's smoking weed.

ITY said:
Now yesterday you were all over a lynch on KrazeyIvan, and no mention of that today. Pot - kettle anyone?

All over an Ivan lynch yesterday? Show me.

ITY said:
Yes I would still like to see a lynch on Fey, but as he as not lowered himself to join in the game -yet again- , it would be unfair to start on him before he has a fair chance to make an appearance.

You're showing constraint on a player who's not participating? So Bad Ash and Nurman are out of line for mentioning him? Go ahead, wag your finger at them. :thumbup:

He was reading the thread yesterday evening, yet didn't post, what do you make of that?

ITY said:
I felt that KrazeyIvan's behaviour was less suspisious than you did, so he was not on my list, well shoot me for not agreeing with the great Zhao.

Thanks, but flattery will get you nowhere. :tongue:

I just asked you why you felt Ivan was townie. When you switched to Feyfey yesterday, time was ticking away, Sath claimed, Ivan had 2 votes on him, a few people were on his case, but you decided to create a new train on Fey. At the very least, are you getting any town vibes from him?

You supported looking at the Val train, Ivan is a member, so I'm interested in hearing your opinion on him.

Also, what direction do you think we should head today? Go after me, someone from the Val train, or someone else? Why do you think the last 2 NK's are Val voters?



 
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Vote: Sathoris

You did it because he behaved "very anti-town". And you were wrong. Again.

You have a metric ton of nerve calling anyone else stupid when they use logic at least as solid as the tripe you throw around.

Vote: Sathoris

I've found Sathoris' behavior, particularly his targetting of Krazeyivan, suspicious as well. I'm not ready to cast my vote just yet, however.

What do you 2 think of Sath's claim? How about others who immediately accepted it, and Sath calling himself a confirmed townie?



 
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Yes you don't like me, but what...?

This ragepost doesn't even make sense. I never claim my logic is completely solid. Bu what ITY said was just plain wrong. The only person I went after was Val and he turned up pro-town. So ITY using they is just completely wrong. Even saying that everyone who goes after me becomes the lynch targte is just wrong again. Val didn't come for me untill after he became the lynch target and KI didn't even get ****ing lynched. I've got nothing against people lashing out at me, Val certainly did so and I don't care. But these kinds of posts I just can't live with.

And why even bring this up. It was before I roleclaimed. Why vote for a confirmed townie?

Were you cop cleared? I believe your claim, but don't use language like that.

Being confirmed means everyone knows you are a townie, 100% guaranteed, no questions needed. By either the cop coming forward and supporting you, or by process of eliminations or by some other games mechanics.

You produced a believable claim and a lot of people have accepted it, and it supported by Bad Ash's claim. It's a strong claim, but not infallible.

Sath is town. Or he got some EXTREMELY word for word role of someone he killed and took it for his own.

He's a Scavenger because I am a Scavenger and his pm numbers are to the tee to what is accurate.

Zombies have stopped attacking. I have no shame in role claiming because the mafia can kill me, but they should have bigger fish to fry. If I die, oh well, but I want to clear Sath names in any event I could be killed anyway.

We dont need to be wasting our time on Sath as I HIGHLY doubt he is not who he says he is because his food scavenging numbers are identical to mine.

(I can get food for the town, or help defend. The zombies arent attacking so defending is worthless and I scavenged food every single night as it is)

I have scavenged every single night. I get food, thats it. No outsiders.

You didn't claim because of me, did you? Food will be ok or you do you think the game might be over before starvation/morale is low enough as is.

Do you think a mass claim should be on the table, or a very bad move? With things as is, a bold move may be required.



 
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I didnt claim because of you, we are wasting more and more time. I wasnt going too because everyone unvotes Sath at the end of yesterday, that should be the end of it. now people are bringing it up again? The same people who unvoted him? HUH?

Mass role claim is stupid at this point because theres still a lot of people left and mafia can just say "im a stranded X" with no way to disprove them.
 
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I guess you didn't get to talk to Val when he escorted you else you wouldn't have voted for him. Quite a bummer.

Clearly not. I did get us the extra food from him escorting me after his lynch though with a follow up on his "night action not being realized" when we only got 1 food on night 1.

Scouts are bringing in multiple people a night, if I am killed, bring in Sath and he'll get food just fine for another night. If we dont kill a mafia today it might be worthless anyway



 
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It seems is more like a game of pin the tail on the donkey. We need a successful lynch to start putting mafia under pressure, if we had a confirmed mafia lynch we could go over their interactions and posts for clues and missteps - we don't have that so whats the best course of action over the remaining hours of the day?

Best guess?
Lucky Chance?

Whats the gameplan people

Seems you are directionless but yesterday you were focused:

Ivan said:
I would like to look (or hear, more than look) at the following Players

Noodle, Gorny, ITY, and Zhao - no doubt they will retort why me etc etc

To which I reply why not?

Were you satisfied with their posting? Or are you backing off them since they were coming at you?

Bad Ash said:
I didnt claim because of you, we are wasting more and more time. I wasnt going too because everyone unvotes Sath at the end of yesterday, that should be the end of it. now people are bringing it up again? The same people who unvoted him? HUH?

Good point.



 
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Bizarely KI is appearing more town to me.

Mass claiming at this point isn't prudent. However in the near future it'll be neccesary. When the claiming begins we have 5 people who are in the town and therefore more or less confirmed. (Anyone claiming to be inside the town can be counterclaimed as we're massclaiming anyway so the mafia can't get away with that. And if mafia are among the named townies than that's just bastard modding and we needn't feel sorry)

We got two scouts now. Hopefully both recruit at least one person. That leaves us with 7. The mafia's NK target might be one of those 7 so let's assume we have 6 the next day. So we have 6 people in the town plus me. That makes 7. Assuming we get a lynch today on a non garrisoned person. (anyone claiming to be inside can be counterclaimed, even if it means outing that you are in the town cause we can afford to lose someone inside the town. Plus it's worth catching a mafia that way.)

That leaves us with 6 out of 12 confirmed town. At this point claiming would be advisable with a 5/6 chance of lynching a mafia every next day. (Assuming there are 5 mafia.

We, however, need a lynch today. And frankly the sooner we get to a near the lynch the better cause we can switch if needed. I'm in favour of nurman. I'll try and build a proper case tomorrow. My preffered list:

nurman
Zarniwoop
Zhao
Leo
Gorny

People I'd like to not lynch:

Bad Ash
Feysal
Noodle
(ironically) KrazeyIvan
ITY

I'm ignoring stats like food and defense and moral because, frankly, it gets too complicated to calculate that into everything and in my opinion it shouldn't get in the way of lynches, but alas it may.

And perhaps we might get a secret weapon when the scientist completes his ongoing four day research.
 
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Seems you are directionless but yesterday you were focused:

Were you satisfied with their posting? Or are you backing off them since they were coming at you?

Directionless? But more focused yesterday eh.

Well as a whole the town got no lynch done thats the bottom line, Sathoris seems like a misguided townie - and Feysal did not get the required votes.
I guess my directionless aim stems from a rather large lack of direction from all of us.

As for you next point coming after me? Noodle was stickin up for me in more posts than not - hell he even mentions this specifically at one time.
My point/general feeling has not changed one bit.
I think in one/more of those name hides a dirty scummy player or two which ones ... thats the hard part, mainly as we don't have much to go on, call it a hunch.


 
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I forgot to add that the scout shouldn't recruit me the coming night because it would interfere in the confirmed townies number.

Also I assume that if a scout get's NK, his scouting target would still find his way into the town.

Should a scout try to recruit someone and it failed, we must assume he's mafia. That way we have 5 townies and 7 bogies. We'll be in lylo one day earlier but (hopefully) having caught one mafia (The failed to scout person)

The important thing is the townies must stand together and any unconfirmed townie must stand next to them.
 
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Well scouting wise I'm still here ...... ah hell do what you like
I think I'm getting NK'd tonight anyway
 
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"No"

Who would you like to see lynched today Ivan?

Well I'd rather not target anyone currently townside (but I don't know who they are) so for me its still pin the tail on the donkey time ......

1) Leo
2) Gorny
3) Laarz
4) Kijya
5) Feysal

Maybe Noammr too.

From this list (if your town sorry, I don't know) I think would be the best bet for todays lynch.

Why you ask (some of you will) do you not list the names you mentioned (notice Gorny?) well the answer is not much to go on tbh - as I said its more a gut thing and the names I mentioned don't seem to have any standout errors and I doubt we could get the votes - the above names are not too bad a choice with what we know - mainly squadoosh.


 
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