Zombie invasion Mafia game.

[Zhao_Yue1]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

well I am who ive said I was all along. Sath was a scavenger. I proved his claim because his numbers are the exact same as mine. ZY said he had received a garbage bag for scavengers and I think that might be far-fetched.

Sathoris confirmed that he received my item the Garbage Bag ... the same person you are trying to milk for townie points.

Sath also said he received an item for engineers and Ivan/yourself claimed to have received an item for scouts, is that far-fetched?

Being the 2nd scientist he must have some odd win condition by making a virus or something it is the only story-wise explanation there is.

Since there appears to be 3 of each game role, I'm technically the 3rd scientist.

First you accuse me of being a crazy scientist that makes zombies, then you fabricate an anti-town connection with Noammr and myself then you go back to accusing me that I created some sort of virus.

Are you trying to annoy me or are you purposely trying to be ignorant?

I was rather down-heartened to read that our lynch result was so bad. I am at a loss for the reason tbh. All I can surmise is my reading ability got corrupted cos that result has not helped us, could an item for a neutral affect us? Cos I am definitely affected reading wise - I wonder if I have been flipped cop reading wise?

I was informed my item was dropped last night I can confirm it was not passed on, right now I would lynch me with whats occurred so I won't feel bad if that's your call.

As for my investigation I did indeed investigate Zarni - again Anti town but with my false reading before - I have no clue if its OK or not.

What do you think are the odds that one of the dead mafia members or one of the current anti-town faction has the ability to switch the alignment of your readings? Is it viable to have such a role specific ability?

Did you ask TC why he was inconsistent when he was giving you the results of your investigations?

Why do you think Bad Ash is going all out against me when the facts are against him?

 

[Bad Ash]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

There are no facts against me, I went with info of someone I trusted.

I am trying to think of it as a game standpoint and to me the most obvious neutral role would be a scientist. I dont think that is far-fetched, that is simply in terms of story and where TC might be thinking.

I didnt see where Sath said he received the garbage bag, I was out of town last thurs, fri, sat, and sun and wasnt able to read the thread thouroughly

 

[Zhao_Yue1]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

For the last time, I'm Ann Arctica, a citizen stranded outside the town.

I was told I was lost and hiding in a building. I had to wait until a scout found me in order to be inside the town. I can only assume there was a chance of attack while outside the walls by the NPC zombies or something else.

You said this yesterday ... but everyone is inside the town. Role PMs state that players that start off outside of the town are stranded or lost, but all the townies that have claimed knew to change their status once they were scouted.

Feysal has been lynched. He was Zombie hitman Marvin Duke.
Noodle has been lynched. He was Zombie saboteur Sally Gates.

One thing I was considering when Bad Ash mentioned that he wasn't suspicious of Zarniwoop because he said Zarni never false claimed. Given that the Zombies have names as they are former Citizens of the town before they turned, Zarni claiming Citizen wouldn't technically be wrong.

Is the Zombie Infiltrator a possibility? Can be recruited and shows up as a Civilian. But would he have an additionally ability to ruin any Cop investigations? Or could one of the dead Zombies have the ability to permanently switch a cop reading ... but that would have to stay in effect after his death.

If there was a Zombie in the town, why no NK's? Is he waiting for the numbers to be more manageable then decides to strike?

 

[Zhao_Yue1]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

A second serving of humble pie?

Thank you for that Feysal, you just confirmed all the remaining scum. You and Gorny are obvscum now. Noodle was around but conveniently didn't lock it, he's obvscum.
Zhao's been cleared so that only leaves Laarz who also wasn't voting for Gorny.

*Zhao is confirmed: I received his 'trash bag' item.*
I also received an item that enhances building speed, but we have no engineers left so it's useless now.

You unvoting changes nothing. The lynch only had a 75% succesrate and if it failed we would've been left wondering whether you, feysal, would vote for your partner.
But that's no longer neccesary. We now have enough morale again and we can lynch you three everyday.

Save us the trouble and just admit defeat.

Vote: Feysal

Doesn't matter which order we use.

Gorny's death changes little, Feysal already confirmed Gorny was scum so something went wrong with the NK, doubt it matters that much.

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[Zhao_Yue1]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

In my mind, the Scout, Scavenger and Scientist should be cleared as they are all accounted for in the town stats. The question mark is with the Civilians ... we don't know what roles are within that category as they are not specified.

 

[Zhao_Yue1]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

I was rather down-heartened to read that our lynch result was so bad. I am at a loss for the reason tbh. All I can surmise is my reading ability got corrupted cos that result has not helped us, could an item for a neutral affect us? Cos I am definitely affected reading wise - I wonder if I have been flipped cop reading wise?

Your results:

Well I investigated Zhao last night - He is Nicole and townie.

Laarz was a scavenger and I received an item last night to enable extra recruiting

As far as my cop investigations goes I looked into Noammr - came up Anti Town (thats all I got), all my other checks have been slam dunks so I'm going with my abilities read

As for my investigation I did indeed investigate Zarni - again Anti town but with my false reading before - I have no clue if its OK or not.

You're not the Paranoid/Insane Cop. You're either pulling our legs or something affected your last investigation.

I was informed my item was dropped last night I can confirm it was not passed on, right now I would lynch me with whats occurred so I won't feel bad if that's your call.

What does that mean, you lost the Binoculars?

 

[Kraz3yIvan]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

Hey the way this game has gone I have no idea whats up with my reads and whats affecting them. The binoculars have been dropped and I am no longer in possession of them thus no passing on to the scout, as for the how and why I dropped them I have no clue.

 

[Kraz3yIvan]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

There are no facts against me, I went with info of someone I trusted.

The only thing Bad Ash that sits slightly off about you from my point of view is this - I was delighted that someone was backing me up quite vocally, the slight problem with that (with hindsight) is from that point on I seemed to have trouble with my cop reads, timing was a little too good if you know what I mean - It reminded me about the story of the very tall blade of grass..... its first to get cut by the mower! In other words I'm the perfect fall guy.

 

[Bad Ash]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

No humple pie, I was stating I hadnt seen them, not calling you a liar.

The no NKs is another reason I am suspicious of the scientist. Why would civilian zombies be not killing or need time to pass? I cant think of any. A scientist would need days to pass for something to happen (ala the antidote). Since this is only speculation:

Based on Zhao's last batch of posts I am in favor of Zarni being lynched as obviously he tiptoed around claiming for a long time and wouldnt necessarily be lieing.

As said before you guys can lynch me, itll show I am a scavenger and you should still have the numbers to find a 4 v 1.

 

[Bad Ash]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

The only thing Bad Ash that sits slightly off about you from my point of view is this - I was delighted that someone was backing me up quite vocally, the slight problem with that (with hindsight) is from that point on I seemed to have trouble with my cop reads, timing was a little too good if you know what I mean - It reminded me about the story of the very tall blade of grass..... its first to get cut by the mower! In other words I'm the perfect fall guy.

Well what would you expect with low numbers and a false read when you have other reads that have panned out to be accurate? The only explanation is a (i think it is called) paranoid cop where the readings are completely random throughout the whole game, but no one has brought this up to be a possibility.

Ive never played in a game where a cop can go from right to wrong, but if you noticed you still werent at my initial lynch list (before zhaos zarni posts and what not)

 

[Zhao_Yue1]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

Based on Zhao's last batch of posts I am in favor of Zarni being lynched as obviously he tiptoed around claiming for a long time and wouldnt necessarily be lieing.

How much do you believe Ivan is pro-town?

As said before you guys can lynch me, itll show I am a scavenger and you should still have the numbers to find a 4 v 1.

Why do you have to keep posting these "I'm a townie" posts? You're acting as if someone might push for your lynch. It not really important, but it's noticeable.

Well what would you expect with low numbers and a false read when you have other reads that have panned out to be accurate? The only explanation is a (i think it is called) paranoid cop where the readings are completely random throughout the whole game, but no one has brought this up to be a possibility.

Paranoid cop getting random alignments? Sure
Paranoid cop getting random roles and names? Unlikely.

 

[Bad Ash]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

How much do you believe Ivan is pro-town?



Why do you have to keep posting these "I'm a townie" posts? You're acting as if someone might push for your lynch. It not really important, but it's noticeable.



Paranoid cop getting random alignments? Sure
Paranoid cop getting random roles and names? Unlikely.

75% Ivan is pro-town.

you me and ivan have said lynch me if you must so moot point.

I do not think the paranoid cop is likely which is why I am confused

I think we should lynch Zarni today

 

[zarniwoop]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

Civilians are just vanillas. I cannot figure out how everyone is making such a mystery out of this. Every other mafia game we've ever played has had vanillas. Every single one.

Yet suddenly, its a clear indication of mafia activity. What do I need to use? A hammer to get that through? I'll go along with whoever everyone thinks is most likely, but its blatantly obvious that logic is gone and at this point, we're all just guessing.

The only person that makes me uneasy at this point is Zhao. I have no read at all on kijya, which makes me slightly nervous, but all I'm convinced of is that someone's played a pretty good game to still be hidden.

Zhao what did you get from your investigation of me?

 

[zarniwoop]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

Never mind, I guess it was ivan that has the investigate ability. It appears he's an insane cop.

I could have sworn I read zhao stating he would investigate me. I'm working too much, clearly.

Vote: Zhao_Yue

I'm going out shopping with the girls. I'll be back before the day ends to answer any questions or change my vote should actual evidence come to light.

 

[zarniwoop]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

Apparently I can't type either.

Vote: Zhao_Yue

 

[Bad Ash]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

Vote: Zarniwoop

Done for the rest of today

 

[Zhao_Yue1]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

Civilians are just vanillas. I cannot figure out how everyone is making such a mystery out of this. Every other mafia game we've ever played has had vanillas. Every single one.

Yet suddenly, its a clear indication of mafia activity. What do I need to use? A hammer to get that through?

Noammr and Ivan are in the Civilians category, are they vanilla?

Gorny claimed Citizen stranded when he supposedly in town. You also did.

I'll go along with whoever everyone thinks is most likely, but its blatantly obvious that logic is gone and at this point, we're all just guessing.

You're more than happy not get involved much until you can jump on a townie lynch train.

The only person that makes me uneasy at this point is Zhao. I have no read at all on kijya, which makes me slightly nervous, but all I'm convinced of is that someone's played a pretty good game to still be hidden.

I'm suddenly suspicious enough for you to break out of you under-the-radar play mode to have you actually initiate a lynch? I guess I'm on the right track for you to go on the offensive like that. What makes you uneasy, the fact that I might have figured out your claim and you can't sit back in safety anymore?

Never mind, I guess it was ivan that has the investigate ability. It appears he's an insane cop.

We discussed this, Ivan is not the insane cop.

There are too many anomalies in your case, so this is definately the right lynch for today.

Vote: Zarniwoop

 

[Kijya]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

I'm still suspicious about how the binoculars where just "dropped". Either KI is lying, or TC has a knack for destroying my attempts to run down easy lane to win the game ... :whistling:

If we cannot confirm a 3 man cell and lynch the rest, then that plan failed rather miserably. Just like my attempt to stop the lynch of noammr yesterday ...


Well then, what's left to base my actions on ... the one thing I can see is that there would have been no need to have the binoculars removed from the game if neutrals and townies could trade with each other. I asked some time ago if this was the case (end of the post here) but don't recall seeing any clear answer.

My logic:
Imagine that they could be traded with a neutral.
KI townie: No need for TC to remove them outright, he could just have answered the above question to destroy my plan in confirming townies using item trading.
KI neutral: No need to lie and say that the item was dropped, unless the item was made up. But if items could be traded between neutrals and townies, then chances are they wouldn't have needed to make an item up in the first place.




I can't say that my deduction is correct, but atm I'm willing to bet my chances on it. As such:

*Zhao is confirmed: I received his 'trash bag' item.*

Since sathoris is confirmed pro town with absolute certainty due to his modkill message, I'll at least trust you from now on zhao.

@zhao: Do you think it would be safer for us to vote zarni instead of KI?



I'll elaborate, from my perspective was like this yesterday:

Group1: BA+KI (they still item confirmed each other after all)
Group2: Zarni
Group3: zhao
Group4: noammr
Group5: kij

Now I'll consider it like this until anything else comes up on the :

Group1: BA+KI
Group2: Zarni
Group5: kij+zhao

To be honest I also think zarni looks suspicious, but wouldn't voting KI or BA today be safer just in case those dropped binoculars where a lie and BA+KI are teaming up as neutrals? If we vote out one of them we should be safe to vote out zarni tomorrow even if we're wrong.


@Bad Ash, Krazeyivan and Zarni: I'd also like to hear your thoughts about this plan of mine ...

 

[zarniwoop]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

I think anyone could be dirty at this point.

One incorrect lynch basically loses us the game. And it appears that ash and zhao have given up with their votes for me.

If you feel that BA/KI is a better option than zhao because he keeps flopping his vote (or his proposed vote) like a fish out of water, I guess I could be convinced.

Personally, I doubt BA is dirty unless he's been recruited later in the game. Ditto Ivan.

Thus I feel that either you or Zhao are the remaining bad guy. If you aren't dirty, then zhao is.

 

[zarniwoop]

Re: Zombie invasion Mafia game.

Noammr and Ivan are in the Civilians category, are they vanilla?

Gorny claimed Citizen stranded when he supposedly in town. You also did.



You're more than happy not get involved much until you can jump on a townie lynch train.



I'm suddenly suspicious enough for you to break out of you under-the-radar play mode to have you actually initiate a lynch? I guess I'm on the right track for you to go on the offensive like that. What makes you uneasy, the fact that I might have figured out your claim and you can't sit back in safety anymore?



We discussed this, Ivan is not the insane cop.

There are too many anomalies in your case, so this is definately the right lynch for today.

Vote: Zarniwoop

There are no anamolies. I simply mis-remembered who posted something and you're using it to push your agenda. Well-played. Now, I'm certain that you're the bad guy. You'd never write something that empty of thought if you were actually trying to catch a mafia player.