Yet another WSM question

[Louis]

Yet another WSM question

Seems like this is pretty hard to understand completely
Alright, i have a Rare Suwayah with base speed 0. There isn't any ias on it, and it has 1 free socket.

I am planning on using this as my glove claw (the one where ias doesnt matter) and then get another claw for my mainhand.

Currently im bidding on Baaka's Cunning War fist.
Arreat summit says it has 10 base speed, but it says very slow on his screenie :/ It has 2 sockets and 5 LS total.

Now is the question, if i have these two, WHICH should i place where and socket with what to hit my optimal FPA? I guess the war fist with 2x shael or 2x 15/15 would hit the 8 or 9 fpa ( dont remember whats fastest), if i was bugging with it.

Please help it!

 

[Sass]

Re: Yet another WSM question

If it says very slow, I'm willing to bet you have in on a non-sin.

WSM bugging with these hardly does any good. The WSM you get is actually slower if you bug it. Even still, the speeds were similar to start, so not going to help much anyway. It would need 208 IAS. Bos quickly gets it down to needing ~50 IAS, but still, not worth doing.

Then again, even in the optimal position (same lay out, just don't bug), it'd need 147 from a WSM of 5, and BoS would be the same as before anyway.

For the second option, it needs a level 14 BoS to require only 20 IAS, so if shaeling that (and no need to shael warfist), then you'd hit the max speed.



With claws like that though, I haven't looked at how it'll affect charging and / or dclaw, but you'll likely still need BoS.

 

[Louis]

Re: Yet another WSM question

If it says very slow, I'm willing to bet you have in on a non-sin.

WSM bugging with these hardly does any good. The WSM you get is actually slower if you bug it. Even still, the speeds were similar to start, so not going to help much anyway. It would need 208 IAS. Bos quickly gets it down to needing ~50 IAS, but still, not worth doing.

Then again, even in the optimal position (same lay out, just don't bug), it'd need 147 from a WSM of 5, and BoS would be the same as before anyway.

For the second option, it needs a level 14 BoS to require only 20 IAS, so if shaeling that (and no need to shael warfist), then you'd hit the max speed.



With claws like that though, I haven't looked at how it'll affect charging and / or dclaw, but you'll likely still need BoS.

Lol, yeah my fault on the very slow thing Well i kinda plan on hitting max fpa with fade on, isn't that possible with these claws? And if no, which should i get then? And how much off-weapon ias would i need?

And how come everyone want GT's, when Runic Talons is just as fast? And do i need -30 base ias? Isn't the -20 one fast enough?

 

[Louis]

Re: Yet another WSM question

Alright, i think i didn't got it because i didn't understood Tienje's way figure of awsm / ias and so, but got it now.

But just to make sure, a (10) claw and a (-30) claw would give the possible result right?
Because i plan on switching my Suwayah to a Warfist with 2os.

Still, then i would need a -20 or -30 claw as by boot claw.

What are the best possibilities when taking both shaels, jools and base ias claws into account?

What's cheapest and what leaves more room for customization?

 

[Sass]

Re: Yet another WSM question

Yeah. A 10 and -30 gets -50, so only 13 IAS. very doable

If the Warfist has at least 20 IAS already on it, you're good to go. Sockets are then free and no need to jewel the helm.

 

[Louis]

Re: Yet another WSM question

We'll on what claw would extra ias matter?

Currently i have a Greater Talon with 2os on my bootside and a shaled Suwayah on my gloves side. If i bug, do i hit max trapspeed?

 

[Sass]

Re: Yet another WSM question

Assuming the GT has no IAS, then no. Not 100% sure (not calculated), but I think that's only 10 frames.

The Suwayyah is the one where IAS does not matter. The Primary (bugging makes this become the GT (anything over boots)), and is the one requiring the IAS for 9 frames.