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Wolfbarbs-The ultimate guide (Revised verson)
- Thread starter Zero-unit
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TheWretched
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I was wondering if 5 strength large charms would be viable? 5 to strength means five points saved for vitality, which means (with BO and werewolf factored in) ~ 65-70 life (plus whatever mods you can get at of it). For those on ladder, who can't have an inventory full of 3/20/20's, this seems to be the best option to me .
I want to take a moment to apologize to every follower of this guide, I have been away for a long time due to some family matters. I wish I could of gotten to a computer sooner. So now. I will return to giving advice once again. TheWretched that is actually a good way to see it, though you will not gain as much damage as to Damage/AR/life charms this works fine becuase it gives life benefits. Tvk through my experience those are just far to slow to be used sure they got some nice modifications but sometimes faster might get you somewhere. Once again I am sincerly sorry.
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Is enigma still a good armor for a wolfy? cuz the +str based on lvl seems to me a good thing as u can place those points into vit which can raise ur life by a huge amount...but the CB on duress wud be dropped to 15% from the gores so rite now idk what to do as im trying to make nigma again nd was wondering if a nigma on a wolfbarb be good as i saw another wolfbarb using anigma nd said it was better as it gives u +2 skills also
xTheCheaTx
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I was also looking at Enigma...the defense would be comparable to Valor, it has the +2, and the Str bonus would surpass Valor's Vit bonus. +Enigma has the 5% life and Damage reduction. But no FHR. :/ Anyone have suggestions as to what FHR frame rate we should be at?
I would recomend an Enigma over Duress anyday becuase of its nice bonus, crushing blow doesn't do much anymore since Blizzard nerfed it. Now your a bit wrong about Enigma surpassing valors life bonus. Because none of them apply to the wolf form or Battle Orders, so now look at it agian. 5% of all your life then added or each Vitality point times 4. And my suggestion for a hit recovery rate would be 42% which is 4 frames, very hit recovery freindly.
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xTheCheaTx
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Zero-unit said:I would recomend an Enigma over Duress anyday becuase of its nice bonus, crushing blow doesn't do much anymore since Blizzard nerfed it. Now your a bit wrong about Enigma surpassing valors life bonus. Because none of them apply to the wolf form or Battle Orders, so now look at it agian. 5% of all your life then added or each Vitality point times 4. And my suggestion for a hit recovery rate would be 42% which is 4 frames, very hit recovery freindly.
Dr@kE~
Ty for the quick response...so i could get 42% easily enough with sc's and the 30% from valor. What i meant in my post earlier was that the Strength points saved from Enigma and then invested into Vitality would offer substantial life that would get benfits from BO and Werewolf. The 5% to life even better. Nigma still has 0 fhr tho
Harkenrider
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Would a Fleshripper work as a weapon for the Wolfbarb?
It has lots of sexy mods on it but I don't know if its fast enough.
I tried to use the Speed Chart but, I think I got it wrong.
Also, what about my old Werebear Weapon:
15% ED Superior Phase Blade
Socketed with 4 Shael Runes and 2 40ED/15%IAS Jewels
95% Enhanced Damage
I'm trying to find an alternative weapon because Griswolds is proving to be really hard to find.
Thanks
-Hark
It has lots of sexy mods on it but I don't know if its fast enough.
I tried to use the Speed Chart but, I think I got it wrong.
Also, what about my old Werebear Weapon:
15% ED Superior Phase Blade
Socketed with 4 Shael Runes and 2 40ED/15%IAS Jewels
95% Enhanced Damage
I'm trying to find an alternative weapon because Griswolds is proving to be really hard to find.
Thanks
-Hark
xTheCheaTx said:Ty for the quick response...so i could get 42% easily enough with sc's and the 30% from valor. What i meant in my post earlier was that the Strength points saved from Enigma and then invested into Vitality would offer substantial life that would get benfits from BO and Werewolf. The 5% to life even better. Nigma still has 0 fhr tho
About the enigma, which armor would you place it in? A dusk shroud or archon plate? Dusk shroud ony need 77 str and can reach 1300+ def which archon plate needs 103 str but has an easier time reaching over the 1300+ def point...But im more staying towards the dusk shroud as you would need very little str to use it after adding in the anni and any other +str you can get more your charms as none of your other items will provide str until you can wear an enigma.
Well considering your using a Stormshield I think dusk shroud would be best, doesn't make you have to use extra points to wear heavier armor. Harkenrider for the chart, put the class under Barbarian, Werewolf, Normal Attack (That's important.), then the weapon type your using then the speed bonus. (Make sure you don't put any negative signs in the speed bonus unless it is a slow weapon.) and well I wouldn't exactly recomend Fleshripper for a weapon.
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It has been exactly one year from when I posted this guide, I have to say I'm really happy with the success it has amongst the forum users. Now over 700 Posts and still going, I celebrate this guides 1 year anniversary by this thread may it last many more.
(I appologize for double posting.)
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(I appologize for double posting.)
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Have you considered an Up'd Crowcaw instead of Valor? Here's the stats for an exceptional one:
Defense: 477-534 (varies)(Base Defense: 176-190)
Required Level: 37
Required Strength: 86
Durability: 36
+150-180% Enhanced Defense (varies)
15% Increased Attack Speed
15% Faster Hit Recovery
35% Chance of Open Wounds
+15 Dexterity
(Only Spawns In Patch 1.09 or later)
Up'd, it could have anywhere from 390-496 base def, and then multiplied by your modifier. Assuming averages of 442 base def and 165%, you get 1173. Lower def than Valor, but easier to find, and lots of OW, almost guaranteeing a trigger if you hit twice.
I know the IAS doesn't matter, but the FHR helps and the +dex means more base vita, which in turn is multiplied by BO/Lyc (Valor's is not).
What do you think?
crg
Defense: 477-534 (varies)(Base Defense: 176-190)
Required Level: 37
Required Strength: 86
Durability: 36
+150-180% Enhanced Defense (varies)
15% Increased Attack Speed
15% Faster Hit Recovery
35% Chance of Open Wounds
+15 Dexterity
(Only Spawns In Patch 1.09 or later)
Up'd, it could have anywhere from 390-496 base def, and then multiplied by your modifier. Assuming averages of 442 base def and 165%, you get 1173. Lower def than Valor, but easier to find, and lots of OW, almost guaranteeing a trigger if you hit twice.
I know the IAS doesn't matter, but the FHR helps and the +dex means more base vita, which in turn is multiplied by BO/Lyc (Valor's is not).
What do you think?
crg
Sorry, check my realm. I'm SP only. I'm also currently working on a wolfbarb (clvl 82) for a PvP tourney in the SPF, and I'm operating with your setup posted a while ago, minus the eth zod'd gear.Zero-unit said:You'll be better off with Duress.
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I was just wondering. Thanks for the response.
Killer_sss
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question i was wondering about how well this would work pvp
heres my gear:
3warcray666 wolfhowl bered
archon enigma
storm shield shaeled
aracnids
bloodfist
aldurs boots
and not sure which to use
40 ias grief phase blade (9frames i believe but huge dmg increase)
does itd apply to players just slaughtering their defense??
if so
2bks and perf maras
if not
angelic rings/ammy
or
gris caddy 4shaels
angelic rings/ammy
obviousy the caddy will be faster but will this suffice for killing palidons with a 4 fram zeal? or should i use the caddy on zealers and the grief on most other chars?
thanx in advance for any help you can provide me with
heres my gear:
3warcray666 wolfhowl bered
archon enigma
storm shield shaeled
aracnids
bloodfist
aldurs boots
and not sure which to use
40 ias grief phase blade (9frames i believe but huge dmg increase)
does itd apply to players just slaughtering their defense??
if so
2bks and perf maras
if not
angelic rings/ammy
or
gris caddy 4shaels
angelic rings/ammy
obviousy the caddy will be faster but will this suffice for killing palidons with a 4 fram zeal? or should i use the caddy on zealers and the grief on most other chars?
thanx in advance for any help you can provide me with
Killer_sss said:question i was wondering about how well this would work pvp
heres my gear:
3warcray666 wolfhowl bered
archon enigma
storm shield shaeled
aracnids
bloodfist
aldurs boots
and not sure which to use
40 ias grief phase blade (9frames i believe but huge dmg increase)
does itd apply to players just slaughtering their defense??
if so
2bks and perf maras
if not
angelic rings/ammy
or
gris caddy 4shaels
angelic rings/ammy
obviousy the caddy will be faster but will this suffice for killing palidons with a 4 fram zeal? or should i use the caddy on zealers and the grief on most other chars?
thanx in advance for any help you can provide me with
You should use a Verdungos for the pdr and massive +vit, for the griz caddy and grief well, a griz caddy works good on a zealot but remember, zeal is uniterruptable so you wont be able to get him in a block lock or fhr lock and getting hit by a zealots attack will lead you to fhr lock or block lock. But wit the griz caddy, you get more attacks in than a grief as grief reaches 4 frames? and the griz caddy reaches 3. For everything else, grief owns.
