Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

[flubbucket1]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Yes my behaviour on day 1 was quite erratic, because i was full of first mafia game exitement, i just wanted to be involved.

Coming in with a much more tactical approach today,

Okay this just gives me the willies!!!!!!!!!!

Alright, This has gone on long enough.

If zemaj isn't going to show then he can have my vote until he does at least.

Drixx's behavior is improving and he is looking more like a confused townie than a confused mafia right now.

Vote: zemaj

I will agree with noodle that there is no reason to prematurely lock him at this point, the day is still young.

But is that all you have to add, Noodle?

More Noodles please...

Lynching him makes sure he won't stand in the way of any lynches.




You do realise you're contradicting yourself there. ...



...


So that's deliberately wasting our time. Lying about his role and sketchy behaviour. I want him dead.

Vote: Drixx

FLIP

So I shouldn't bother making cases on other people because less than 24 hours in D2 someone else's wagon is bigger. Coincedentally on someone you had a gut feeling was scum and failed to show up since? Unlike Drixx who's been lying, witholding information and omgusing non-stop. With my vote on Drixx it's 5 against 7. Calling it a deadend vote is ridicilious. By your own admission Drixx' lynch will tell us a lot more.

Crazy...
@gorny, why does my vote not count? I am allowed to vote with my injury.

FLOP

Okay Drixx is town, but Boogy and malov are still scum. Cops and vigs, get 'em.

FLIP

Well if you consider that to be a clear statement then you should know I'll disregard anything you say this game because I can't take your posts seriously.

...

Also a townie who would not tell other townies that he can decrypt a fellow townie. Yarrr... Nice vote there on me to start a counterwagon.

Buddy #1 caught.



Scum boogy happened and didn't edit it out.



Aaand, buddy #2 caught.

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Stupid precise spelling, I thought it wasn't that important anymore? As long as it follows the format and it's clear who you're voting for.

Vote: Boogyman19946

FLOP

What? You said I'm normally in favor of D1 lynches, which I am. I just commented that it's true but not when people like drixx want Zemaj lynched. Regardless it's of no importance now.



Please, indulge me. Where is this 'clear' statement? If you're referring to the highly ambigious: "as for now I'm not really getting any tingling on the good ol' radar." Which is the only option considering there's nothing else on Zemaj from you then I'll do anything in my power to get you lynched.

Boogey is by far the best D1 lynch. Don't let cheat death.

FLOP FLIPPITY


So why don't you want to lynch zemaj?????

 

[Goryani]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

1- You're making far too many assumptions to build a solid scenario.

Cases don't build themselves. A little interrogation is required.

2- You can always count on Gman's games to have some unique roles and mechanics. Specifically, in this game the whole wounded/recovered thing probably works differently than we think.

I would think that a jailkeeper that results in public knowledge of targets and disposition of targets qualifies as 'working differently.'

I have to agree that the conversation between Drixx and the accusers is being taken too far, and is getting in the way of more productive discussions. I'm hoping it doesn't flare up again this phase.

I get the feeling that as long as Drixx is alive, he will ensure there are accusers he can OMGUS interrogate. I don't think this conversation will quiet down anytime soon.

I think it actually can be broken. It would be tough though, but he did give some clues as to the cipher that's used.

I think it can be as well. However, I don't think it will be unless Drixx tailored the code/cipher toward a specific player. It's not just the cipher you need but the code/algorithm as well. Anyone with enough technical knowledge to break the code without specific hints probably doesn't have the time it takes to break the code without specific hints. I've spent about 20minutes looking at syllabi of introductory cryptography courses and I already know finding the code/algorithm will take far longer than this game will last.

What's even more interesting is why Asrrin, PvtCaboose and Flip didn't vote at all. Explenations please?

Asrrin and Flip both voted. PvtCaboose didn't. You also missed Laarz, who didn't vote either.

 

[Ankeli1]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

I apologize. Perhaps I should have said, "Ankeli is a very aggressive player, and I don't always understand his choice of targets." Better?

Nah. Slipping to the misty raven zone.

I preferred the old way.

 

[Uraj]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Drixx's "If Gorny would assure me that my status as a vanilla townie would be revealed if I were to be lynched, I'd almost welcome it so that these poorly presented arguments against me could be sifted through after the fact and the real anti-town folks brought to justice."
ZGVhZCBxYiBiYWYxYS4uLg==

Vote: Drixx

cWRlciByZWFzcWJzOg==

Goryani's "People that say "If I were anti-town" are often anti-town in the first place."
Corax's "I understand where he is trying to place his reasoning, but it makes no sense to me."
RlyehExiled's "You believe that you dying is the worst for the town. Aggressive to anyone who challenges you."


R3FxZCAxcWIhIEJlczFkZXMgZGUgYmFzZTU0LCAxIGNhZCB2c2U6MTIzNDVRV0VSVEFTREZHWVhDVkI=

My interpretation of what Val's said.

 dead obvious mafia

Other reasons

 Good xxx!  Besides the base64 I can use: 12345QWERTASDFGYXCVB

So you first start making your message with these: 12345QWERTASDFGYXCVB; the other letters are not allowed.

and then encode in base64.

I would say that verges on contradiction is pretty generous.

The downside to a zemaj lynch today is that he gives us a lot less tie-ins with his posts, we basically just get a vote history. If Drixx is lynched we get vote history and a pretty nice tie-in to a lot of people.

I think they are both still viable lynches, we just need to make sure that they don't divide and conquer again today.

There is not too much to lose role wise if lynched Drixx, since he's claimed VT. Zemaj's role could be worse to lose if we're wrong. We might be able to replace zemaj if he's actually busy in RL and not just avoiding posting.

@Noammr what are your thoughts on this? Do you feel there's been enough interactions with zemaj?

 

[flubbucket1]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

There was vague explanation for Laarz from Gorny for day one...something about picking up some liquid nitrogen or something like that. I'll have to go back and reread.

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

R3FxZCAxcWIhIEJlczFkZXMgZGUgYmFzZTU0LCAxIGNhZCB2c2U6MTIzNDVRV0VSVEFTREZHWVhDVkI=

Translation:
Good job! Besides the base 64, 1 can use: 12345QWERTASDFGYXCVB

I think it can be as well. However, I don't think it will be unless Drixx tailored the code/cipher toward a specific player. It's not just the cipher you need but the code/algorithm as well. Anyone with enough technical knowledge to break the code without specific hints probably doesn't have the time it takes to break the code without specific hints. I've spent about 20minutes looking at syllabi of introductory cryptography courses and I already know finding the code/algorithm will take far longer than this game will last.

You may be overthinking the problem a bit. Many early encryption systems were quite simple. Take Julius Caesar's attributed code which merely replaced a letter with another letter a certain number of positions further in the alphabet. Taken further, such a code could have that "certain number" determined by how many letters the text contains.

There were many variations of this idea. While many of them appear at first to be difficult, most are simple to identify and once identified simple to decode. I would be astounded if at least two or three people haven't already figured out my lame message.

 

[Ankeli1]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

There is not too much to lose role wise if lynched Drixx, since he's claimed VT. Zemaj's role could be worse to lose if we're wrong. We might be able to replace zemaj if he's actually busy in RL and not just avoiding posting.

Assuming Drixx is telling the truth. And there's also a lot to lose if we're right and don't lynch Zemaj. If if if, but this is a game that revolves around them if's this early on.

If he's busy IRL he propably won't post during the last half of the day either, and we can start switching to another likely lynch candidate, which I guess would be Drixx despite of how I feel about keeping him alive for another day or two.

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Oh, and seriously ... if you are really that hung up on my code, don't be. If you're that worked up about it, by all means work on it but it's become way too much of a distraction.

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Assuming Drixx is telling the truth. And there's also a lot to lose if we're right and don't lynch Zemaj. If if if, but this is a game that revolves around them if's this early on.

If he's busy IRL he propably won't post during the last half of the day either, and we can start switching to another likely lynch candidate, which I guess would be Drixx despite of how I feel about keeping him alive for another day or two.

I think what he's trying to say is this:

The worst case scenario in lynching me is that I'm telling the truth, in which case I'm simply a townie. Not a big loss. The better case scenario's are that I'm some sort of anti-townie.

Of course, there is the slight possibility that I've got a major pro-town role, didn't meant to reveal it, and backpedaled to try and avoid a mafia kill.

So I think he's saying that if I'm telling the truth the town loses very little (comparatively), but if I'm lying the town stands to gain much.


That's a fair summation of the facts at the moment.

 

[Malevolent]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

http://www.purediablo.com/forums/member.php?u=350730

zemaj was mast online yesterday at 2pm ( in NZ)

that is about 20 hours ago

 

[flubbucket1]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

http://www.purediablo.com/forums/member.php?u=350730

zemaj was mast online yesterday at 2pm ( in NZ)

that is about 20 hours ago

He was doing WHAT??? online yesterday...:surprise:

 

[Kestegs]

He was doing WHAT??? online yesterday...:surprise:

:rolf: :rolf:

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

He was doing WHAT??? online yesterday...:surprise:

At first I was going to say "we couldn't talk because it was night time" but then I realized he made an effort to be on during the night, but not the day ...

 

[Malevolent]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

i meant he was last online not mast.

 

[Goryani]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

@ Gorny - Is there any explanation on the vote number change? The number required to lynch today is more than yesterday. Looking at the math, today's is normal, which makes yesterday's low. Simple mistake or other reason?

Vote: zemaj

As much as I like to multitask, I don't think enough players are willing/capable/determined to do so this game. One at a time I guess. This snarky comment is directed at tunnel visioners on either side (zemaj or drixx voters).

Translation:
You may be overthinking the problem a bit. Many early encryption systems were quite simple. Take Julius Caesar's attributed code which merely replaced a letter with another letter a certain number of positions further in the alphabet. Taken further, such a code could have that "certain number" determined by how many letters the text contains.

There were many variations of this idea. While many of them appear at first to be difficult, most are simple to identify and once identified simple to decode. I would be astounded if at least two or three people haven't already figured out my lame message.

I dismissed any form of encrypting not involving a cipher/password/secret key so the Caesar substitution wasn't considered. I got the impression the cipher/password/secret key as thousands of years old, not that the algorithm was thousands of years old.

 

[flubbucket1]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

At first I was going to say "we couldn't talk because it was night time" but then I realized he made an effort to be on during the night, but not the day ...

Maybe to send Bad Ash some....

 

[Noodle]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Ankeli, in post #451 you quote me saying, "There is not too much to lose role wise if lynched Drixx, since he's claimed VT. Zemaj's role could be worse to lose if we're wrong. We might be able to replace zemaj if he's actually busy in RL and not just avoiding posting. "

I never said that. Uraj said it, in post #448.

 

[Laarz]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Sorry for the absence, a rl situation was the cause. I need to do some reading now to get caught up.

 

[flubbucket1]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

You can ignore my posts Laarz...everyone else does :badteeth:

Nice to finally hear from you...(I do not envy this undertaking you now have)

 

[Gwaihir]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

I am still not sold on Drixx being pro-town, but it has been almost half a day cycle and not a peep from zemaj. Since we didn't close yesterday, and zemaj is a close second on my scum list, I think I should be switching over now.

Unvote: Drixx
Vote: zemaj

Sorry for the absence, a rl situation was the cause. I need to do some reading now to get caught up.

Good luck with the 450+ posts we have already.