Collection of posts regarding efficient magic finding and rune finding that should be preserved. (Will be linked to from 101 efficiency guide.)
Various posts relating to MF/RF efficiency
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Originally posted by @Fruit:
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@Mest666
The on-paper drawn map is possibly the best Diablo II related thing I've ever seen.
@Gripphon
Si, route matters; max_segments and spawned_segments are factors in deciding whether or not a group should be upgraded from regular to unique. It calculates (spawned_segments * 100 / max_segments) and evaluated the result against the result of a random roll of 100 (seeded by the segment). If the result of the random roll is less, then the group is upgraded to unique. If the result of the random roll is greater or equal, then it will do another random roll of 100 (again using the segment's seed), and if the result is below 6, the group is upgraded to unique.
Once MonUMin (from levels.txt) has been reached, it will skip the first random roll, so it no longer uses max_segments and segments_spawned, but in stead only does the 6% chance per group to be upgraded to unique. Once MonUMax has been reached, it will no longer upgrade any monster to unique. (These counters do not include hardcoded packs or super uniques.)
If a group has been upgraded to unique, only then will it do a random roll of 100, and if the result is below 20 then the unique group is "upgraded" to champion.
As for this "max_segments"; based on the map seed, the game already knows how many segments each area consists of at the start of a game, and this number is stored in the struct of any area. This struct also stores how many random unique packs have spawned thus far, so whenever a monster group is spawned, this number will be checked, and whenever a group is upgraded, this number will be incremented.
So basically, the more you have explored of an area, the higher the chance per group is to be upgraded to unique. So generally speaking you should see less packs at the start of an area, and then it quickly ramps up as you move/teleport around. Though once MonUMin has been reached, it becomes a simple, steady 6% chance per group until MonUMax has been reached.
That would also explain why a different route affects unique spawns, because the segments_spawned will be different by the time that segment/group is spawned, which will affect the chance for the group to be upgraded to unique.
And based on the size of an area, its hardcoded density, RNG, and the way this MonUMin calculation works, sometimes areas end up having less packs than MonUMin.
Edit: These deviations that you see are fault of the "game seed"; this can be considered the master seed, and is responsible for fueling the spawns and seeds of the vast majority of units, either directly or indirectly. There is no way around this randomness, as this game seed is very random, and can not be influenced by us as players. It is generated each time you start a game, and among things uses "low-level" timers (like the time elapsed since booting your system). So even though this "magic line" is real, there are also things beyond your control.
In earlier patches, some things were not seeded by this game seed, but in stead by the map seed, thus the game was much less random in a lot of places, even allowing duplicate items, as pre-expansion time travelers know. Later patches however appropriately made some changes in this area, increasing randomness.
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@Mest666
The on-paper drawn map is possibly the best Diablo II related thing I've ever seen.
@Gripphon
Si, route matters; max_segments and spawned_segments are factors in deciding whether or not a group should be upgraded from regular to unique. It calculates (spawned_segments * 100 / max_segments) and evaluated the result against the result of a random roll of 100 (seeded by the segment). If the result of the random roll is less, then the group is upgraded to unique. If the result of the random roll is greater or equal, then it will do another random roll of 100 (again using the segment's seed), and if the result is below 6, the group is upgraded to unique.
Once MonUMin (from levels.txt) has been reached, it will skip the first random roll, so it no longer uses max_segments and segments_spawned, but in stead only does the 6% chance per group to be upgraded to unique. Once MonUMax has been reached, it will no longer upgrade any monster to unique. (These counters do not include hardcoded packs or super uniques.)
If a group has been upgraded to unique, only then will it do a random roll of 100, and if the result is below 20 then the unique group is "upgraded" to champion.
As for this "max_segments"; based on the map seed, the game already knows how many segments each area consists of at the start of a game, and this number is stored in the struct of any area. This struct also stores how many random unique packs have spawned thus far, so whenever a monster group is spawned, this number will be checked, and whenever a group is upgraded, this number will be incremented.
So basically, the more you have explored of an area, the higher the chance per group is to be upgraded to unique. So generally speaking you should see less packs at the start of an area, and then it quickly ramps up as you move/teleport around. Though once MonUMin has been reached, it becomes a simple, steady 6% chance per group until MonUMax has been reached.
That would also explain why a different route affects unique spawns, because the segments_spawned will be different by the time that segment/group is spawned, which will affect the chance for the group to be upgraded to unique.
And based on the size of an area, its hardcoded density, RNG, and the way this MonUMin calculation works, sometimes areas end up having less packs than MonUMin.
Edit: These deviations that you see are fault of the "game seed"; this can be considered the master seed, and is responsible for fueling the spawns and seeds of the vast majority of units, either directly or indirectly. There is no way around this randomness, as this game seed is very random, and can not be influenced by us as players. It is generated each time you start a game, and among things uses "low-level" timers (like the time elapsed since booting your system). So even though this "magic line" is real, there are also things beyond your control.
In earlier patches, some things were not seeded by this game seed, but in stead by the map seed, thus the game was much less random in a lot of places, even allowing duplicate items, as pre-expansion time travelers know. Later patches however appropriately made some changes in this area, increasing randomness.
Originally posted by Gripphon:
Alright, I can finally provide a partial answer to the question "what is AT barb capable of?"
I timed 50 runs and ended on 4.48 s/bosspack which is comparable to the long-term efficiency of my Pit berserker (whether or not this is long-term AT barb efficiency remains to be seen). Here is the video demonstration of gameplay showing ~4.36 s/bosspack running
Is that it? No, it is not. What is left now to do is calculate ideal AR numbers, calculate when to use Concentrate and when Berserk most efficiently and mostly to improve the gameplay since this barb is kinda "new" while I had thousands of runs of practice with Pit berserker. Maybe even redistribute skill points slightly differently? Who knows.
Where are really the limits of this barb? Can he really challenge the throne of the Pit zerker? We shall see! Let's give this barb some serious practice and then truly answer those questions. AT barb is complicated and there are many things to watch out for with him, especially combining two types of attacks for the best effect.
What I will say for now is this: Pit zerker finally has the first real challenger ever for his MF throne. AT barb is still not explored enough to draw definite conclusions, but the simplicity of playing will always be the Pit zerkers strong advantage.
Let's see is there only one true MF king or will there be two of them!
Hopefully this will inspire people to give more serious look at AT barb. For now here are skillpoints and gear I use:
Shako (Cham)
Enigma
2/fcr/MF amulet
Grief + Azur (Ist)
Goldwrap
Chancies
fcr/lifesteal/MF ring
MF/lifeseteal ring
War Travelers
Switch: dual Suicide
Merc: 1.07 Walk (Cham)
Treachery
Insight GP
Skills:
20 BO
20 IF (55%)
1 BC
1 Inc. Speed
1 Resists
20 Concentrate
16 Berserk
20 Sword Mastery
Resits: Poison and Lightning are important
Originally posted by Gripphon
Just put something like this in your Arreat's people:
Code:Blood Talisman Jewel Required Level: 37 Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion Item Level: 86 Fingerprint: 0xf58010c8 +5 to Strength +27% Enhanced Damage 6% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items 38% Damage to Demons +41 to Attack Rating against Demons
Easy enough, right?
I will share few interesting ideas what you could do with travbarbs and you decide what do you like or don't.
My personal top priority is to get 105 fcr breakpoint with switch. That can be done on a several ways naturally. Simple and powerful solution is hoto+hoto+arachnid mesh+ fcr ring, that way you also have 56% item find instead of 55%, but 55% is fine.
Second biggest priority is to get 170-186 MF because that is the range where rare rings have highest drop chance. 170-175 is range for rare jewels, so I aimed for 176-186 to have slightly better chance for facets. Also having that MF naturally means you farm facets nicely, and Trav is second best place in the game to farm facets. Having that MF has much higher impact on efficiency of running than squeezing 5 or 10% more damage out of the build, but that's me. Not to mention you can also farm Mara's, Sojs or whatever.
Now my third biggest priority is this: survivability. Put enough points to vitality to have desired number of life. I find that having like 2500 is enough to keep you alive for at least 20k runs if you watch what you are doing. And try not to totally ignore resists, have at least some amount. I personally maxed cold and kept lightning in 50 region. Fire is whatever if you use 1.07 LoH, and with 1.13 LoH you can max it easily.
My next priority in combination to previous one is maxed cold resistance + having half freeze duration on ring slot. That way cold nova explosion from bosses last only 5.5 seconds on you, and their chilling attack lasts like 3 or less. That means you will profit by being chilled to whirl slowly through minions, and at the same time when there is physical immune boss left, chances are you will get chilled cause boss before made cold nova explosion. You can hork 2-3 corpses and then you always kill that phy immune with zerk and you are NOT chilled, so no slow slashing. With HFD mod you effectively achieve to have both chill effect to whirl slowly and cbf effect to zerk in full speed. If you get what I mean by that now. Problem is, finding such rings to cover resists and MF and leech at the same time + fcr + ar is not exactly easy thing to do.
My rings are this so you can see possibilities:
Code:Plague Master Ring Required Level: 48 Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion Item Level: 96 Fingerprint: 0x70992165 Fire Resist +15% Lightning Resist +9% Cold Resist +9% Poison Resist +9% 4% Life stolen per hit 5% Mana stolen per hit 8% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items 10% Faster Cast Rate Viper Band Ring Required Level: 44 Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion Item Level: 92 Fingerprint: 0x5f3b1f93 +3 to Strength +11 to Life +46 to Mana +114 to Attack Rating Cold Resist +26% 3% Life stolen per hit Half Freeze Duration
My next priority is to have fastest zerking. Now notice there is one cheap trick here. HLW has 20 ias and LoH gloves have another 20, right? If you happen to use berserker axe, notice that you need 75 ias total for 10 frame zerking, instead of 11 frames you would have otherwise. This means your Grief BA needs 35+ IAS on primary slot! 34 ias gets you fastest ww breakpoint, but not the fastest zerk breakpoint. With phase blade your zerk will be 9 frames if not chilled so thats it, no cheap tricks there.
Next priority is to have enough mana to be able to hork councils, then tele back to act 4. I find that anything over 350 is great so you don't drink mana potions or any potions because of mana missing at all. Why act 4 with barb? Because according to my testings, using act 4 makes for like 2 seconds faster runs than if I run through town in act 3. It seems to me both Maareek and Frozzzen came to same conclusion after testing.
Next priority is AR. Notice that Grief has ignore target defense? That means against 8 out of 11 minions having AR is useless. I calculated that optimal AR to aim for is between 4500 and 5000, depending on your damage output. I personally have like 4650 total. In combination with rings and charms, pump dexterity to have that much AR. Pump vitality to have desired amount of HP as per survivability priority, and rest put into strength to rise your damage output.
Last priority is damage cause damage is easy to come up with, at least if you use Griefs. Use LoH gloves etcetc. Notice that War Travelers and Gore Riders offer similar damage output (to me Travelers offer more if I don't include crushing blow on Riders) + Travelers give you much wanted MF! Also you could use gheed in inventory instead of 1 maxer cause MF>damage on travbarb (according to my opinion that is), but I don't use it cause in combo of that jewel posted and rings + 50 mf travelers + few MF charms I have desired target of 176-186.
Now combine all those priorities and you have idea what my travbarb looks like.
So overall, depending on your needs and goals, I'd say some jewel that rises damage is best to put in Arreat because MF you can come up with in other slots. If you cannot and wanna use Rider's cause you believe they are super godly, then either Ist and Ptopaz in Arreat is by far best option (again, I value MF>damage). If you however don't care about MF at all and think Enigma is good enough for you, then go damage-damage-damage as Froz would say. What jewel is best is up to you to calculate using formulas, but I'd say high Ed% is best option.
Now choose your priorities and have fun building your barbs.
Originally posted by Gripphon:
Respeced to poisonnec. He is slighty stronger than boner, and also more relaxing to play. Overall nec turned to be much better Travincal farmer than I expected.
What I tested:
Infinity vs Insight
Result: very similar, practically no difference, though with Infinity it is easier to spot that physical immune boss there, but with Insight merc does give corpse slightly faster. Nothing to win over Infinity though. I do use Infinity, but Insight is just so good and easy to use...
Iron Golem reliable?
Result: he didn't die in 200 runs I tested, so... once you max golem mastery, he is decent tank. Only thing you have to watch out for are fanaticism + migth packs. I made mine from IK maul.
[highlight]Gear used:[/highlight]
1.13 Shako (Cham)
Web + facet
The Rising Sun
Enigma
Spirit
Arachnid
Trang Claws
fcr mpk from 1.07
Wisp projector
resist/frw/MF boots
5 skillers
Merc: Infinity + CoH + Steelshade (Cham)
Why Cham Shako? Because it is annoying to be slowed by chilling effect when you go back and run toward portal. Necro does not have telekinesis to solve that problem. So, Cham speeds you up more than facet. Actually facet is irrelevant here.
Long term average:
I expect easy sub 21s running is possible
Sub 20s possible?
On a short run, yes. For anything else I'd have to make Insight golem from eth elite polearm to see what kind of advantage does it give. Perhaps I can test that too these days.
EDIT
Curse used is Amplify, NOT Lower Resist!
Originally posted by me:
Tried a bunch of different setups for AS Javazon. Some information in spoilers for those interested:
1. 99 FCR CtA switch
Setup:
Griffon (Cham)
Head Hunter's Glory (5/5 facet, 5/4 facet, 15 IAS/13@ jewel)
Razortail
Rare rings with FCR/ML/LL each
Silkweave
Titan's
3/20 gloves
2/20 craft amulet
CtA/35 Spirit switch
Merc: Infinity/Fortitude/Andy's
This is by now my standard Javazon setup, built around the 2/20 amulet. Love it. Runs in the vid I posted above earlier are with this gear, so that was the benchmark for me.
Initial runs with this setup were around ~55s average.
2. 99 FCR Wizzy switch
Setup:
Griffon (15 IAS/3 MPK jewel)
Monarch socketed with four facets (18/18)
Razortail
Ravenfrost
Rare ring with FCR/ML/LL (SoJ is probably be better, didn't try yet)
Silkweave
Titan's
3/20 gloves
The idea was to again have 99 FCR on switch but with maximum firepower on Javelin switch.
Also I lucked a 2/20 amulet which probably not that many have, so the 50% FCR weapon is the other and much more common/easy to achieve option to get 99% FCR on switch.
Tried with two amulets, HLW for 55% IAS, and +2/8% ML/@ craft. In terms of run times it didn't seem to make a difference (yet again).
As expected, the extra life from CtA was not required, but without it I had to take some more care with my mana, potting here and there and picking up more pots also. In the end, that seemed to make it a little bit slower at 1m to 1m5s. But this could very well be due to the small samples. Maybe SoJ makes the difference, didn't try with it yet.
But I don't see any reason why this should be slower than setup #1.
3. 68 FCR Javelin switch (Lidless Wall)
Setup:
Griffon (15 IAS/3 MPK jewel)
Lidless Wall (5/5 facet)
Razortail
Ravenfrost
Rare ring with FCR/ML/LL
Silkweave
Titan's
3/20 gloves
2/20 craft amulet
CtA switch
This worked well, run times around 1m to 1m10s.
4. 68 FCR Javelin switch (Spirit)
Setup:
Griffon (15 IAS/3 MPK jewel)
Spirit
Razortail
Ravenfrost
Rare ring with FCR/ML/LL
Silkweave
Titan's
3/20 gloves
+2/8ML/@ craft amulet or HLW (prefer the former)
Same as above, but difference here is that Lidless is swapped for Spirit and instead of the 2/20 using another ammy with useful stats (+2/ML or HLW in my case). Run times were similar to the Lidless Wall setup. The latter has MPK and a little bit more damage due to the facet, but with a ML amulet swapped in, it pretty much felt exactly the same.
Can definitely recommend this approach. As mentioned above, apart from Griffon's and Enigma, the rest of the gear is rather straight-forward and can largely be substituted with other stuff.
5. 99 FCR Javelin switch (Spirit)
Setup:
Griffon (Cham)
Spirit
Razortail
Rare rings with FCR/ML/LL each
Silkweave
Titan's
3/20 gloves
2/20 craft amulet
CtA switch
This does not hit the 32% IAS BP. Yet it was not too bad, at around 1m to 1m10s.
6. 99 FCR Javelin switch (Lidless Wall)
Setup:
Griffon (Cham)
Lidless Wall (5/5 facet)
Arachnid Mesh
Rare rings each with FCR/ML/LL
Silkweave
Titan's
3/20 gloves
2/20 craft amulet
CtA switch
I figured since ghosts are the main target and die quickly, maybe an exception to the "Razortail must be used, no exceptions" rule can be made. Of course I was wrong, and could have known so, as the rule specifically states no exceptions.
It was fun, but the lack of Pierce was felt. The few runs I did where around 1m10 to 1m15s. Maybe this could work with max Pierce? I doubt it works better than the above, but could be worth a try.
I only compared run times for this, didn't feel like counting thousands of monsters.
Conclusions:
Except for the last one, all of these work very well. Can definitely recommend #4 as standard approach with (relatively) little gear requirements. So far, setup #1 is the only one I averaged under 1m runs with. But that doesn't say that much, given the very small samples and overall lack of practice with the different setups on my end. Same for the indication that 99% FCR switch seems to be a tiny bit faster than teleporting on Javelin switch in my case.
Originally posted by me:
(Not up to date as Beast seemed better in the end)
Just going to use this thread for some more considerations regarding cow running.
So with the help of the Merc damage calc I compared several setups to find out what is the combined DPS of both Assassin and Merc. Details for those interested:
Merc DPS with/without Beast (Infinity eth CA, Forti, Andy IAS/28 ED)
with lvl 9 Fanaticism from Beast: 14768 avg
without Beast: 11703 avg
(I took the setup of my Merc but pretended he was lvl 95 for max aura (triggered))
Phoenix & Beast setup:
FB: 4309 average
Cow FR: -68
4309 * 1.68 = 7239.12 avg per FB
DPS with last BP: 20052.3624
Merc DPS: 14768
Together: 34820.3624
(5/5 facet in circlet)
Phoenix & +25/-27 Phase Blade
(Tested with +25/-22 Crystal Sword but assuming the above in PB):
FB 5335 average
Cow FR: -95
5335 * 1.95 = 10403.25 per FB
DPS with last BP: 28817.0025
Merc DPS: 11703
Together: 40520.0025
+25/-27 Facet Crystal Sword (20 IAS needed for last BP):
-1 skill (dropping to 65 FCR):
5019 average, *1.95 = 9787.05, DPS = 27110.1285, + Merc = 38813.1285 combined DPS
-2 skills (to stay at 102 FCR):
4703.5 average, *1.95 = 9171.825, DPS = 25405.95525, + Merc = 37108.95525 combined DPS
Beast + 4-facet +20/-18 Monarch:
FB avg 5129.5
Cow FR: -59 => 8155.905
DPS: 22591.85685
+Merc: 37261.85685 combined DPS
6-facet PB + 4-facet +20/-18 Monarch:
FB avg 6155.5
Cow FR: -85 => 11387.675
DPS: 31543.85975
+ Merc: 43246.85975 combined DPS
6-facet PB + Spirit:
FB avg 5967
Cow FR: -67 => 9964.89
DPS: 27602.7453
+ Merc: 39305.7453 combined DPS
Hoto & Phoenix:
FB: 5074.5 average
Cow FR: -68
5074.5 * 1.68 = 8525.16 avg per FB
DPS: 23614.6932
+ Merc: 35317.6932
Hoto & +20/-18 Monarch:
FB: 6041 average
Cow FR: -58
6041 * 1.58 = 9544.78 avg per FB
DPS: 26439.0406
+ Merc: 38142.0406
...and Hoto/Spirit:
FB: 5585 average
Cow FR: -40
5585 * 1.4 = 7819 avg per FB
DPS: 21658.63
+ Merc: 33361.63
Short version – combined DPS (Merc + FB) for the duration of spamming FB:
These are just numbers, haven't tested yet how the setups actually compare in-game. Also I trust that the Merc damage calc delivers correct numbers, I relied on that. But I was very surprised. If this is correct, then apparently the run times above are not so much down to the setup – but rather to mad skills
- Hoto/Spirit: 33361
- Hoto/Phoenix: 35317
- Hoto/4 facet shield: 38142
- Beast/Phoenix: 34820
- Beast/4 facet shield: 37261
- 6 facet PB/Phoenix: 40520
- 6 facet PB/4 facet shield: 43246
- 6 facet PB/Spirit: 39305
Some things to note: DS (corpse explosion) damage is not affected by fire facets/Phoenix, and in general this is just for the time span between laying DS traps and starting to spam FB until corpses start to drop. So the impact of the different setups on overall clear speed is likely not very big. I used (or simulated) facets with above average, but not perfect rolls. I figured this is realistic anyway, and the + fire damage part was the only option for me to get FB damage numbers, as my faceted sword/shield had these stats.
The Phoenix + 6-facet PB variant seems to be the best option overall to me, with Spirit on CtA switch. (Could also use shields the other way around, but I really like Phoenix on main switch a lot by now.) It provides near-highest damage and allows the inclusion of both Redemption and 102 FCR teleport. Another improvement would be a trap 3/20 circlet, ideally with 2 facets. I have one but it only got one socket from Larzuk...
Well, my 6-facet sword is a CS, but I need it in a PB. Otherwise I'd have to drop some + skills in order to stay at last trap laying BP.... Let's hope Trav delivers 2-3 good facets and then do some in-game testing.
(Not up to date as Beast seemed better in the end)
Originally posted by Gripphon:
Where to start. Right, at the beginning would be logical.
Cows are awesome. The end. On a more serious note, I do enjoy cows more than Travincal. They are less predictable and every run is slightly different while at Travincal every run is the same, so I didn't have too much trouble to kill cows in two sets. Besides, killing so many cows is kind of cool. Moo Moo.
As I ran I kept track of total number of runes found to answer the eternal question: how many cows are on a cow level? My necro can answer it due to awesome map I have where red portal spawns inside Cow King's house meaning there will be no other cows inside and I can kill every cow on the cow level if I want to. Idea is I know odds to find ANY rune is 1/244.5, so if I count runes found across hundreds of runs it will allow me to estimate number of cows on the level. I also tested Fissure druid and Blova. Warning: gameplay videos I posted have bad music, so cover your ears!
[highlight]FIRST SET[/highlight]
It was done with necromancer, PNova variation.
Character: necro PNova
GEAR:
Griffon's with facet
2/17 amulet
Enigma
Web with facet
Spirit
Arach belt
Trang gloves
beta BKWB
10fcr 35 mpk 1.07 ring
Silkweave boots
+5 skillers
Merc: Infinity, Fortitude, Andy
Iron Golem: made out of random item
Better option is 2/20 circlet with 2/20 amulet, but I have 1/20 amulet as best so I went this way. As for mpk, I tested necro doesn't need 1.07 mpk ring, what he has in 1.14 is enough. On top of it jewel with 3 mpk can be socketed in helm to help more if needed.
Skills:
20 Amplify damage
1 Revive
1 Iron Golem
1 Bone Armor
20 Corpse Explosion
20 PNova
Rest into synergies for PNova
Player settings: p5
Total runs done: 494 (5 abandoned due to death don't count)
Average time: ~2:25-2:26
Runes found in 300 runs: 579
Estimated cows killed per run: ~467
Cows killed every minute: ~193
These were fullish clears with some leftovers. I'd conclude there are at average ~500 cows on a cow level.
Qualifiers: 21
Cham, Lo, 2x Sur, Vex, 3x Ohm, 2x Ist, 3x Gul, 4x Um, Mal, 3x Pul
Haulpic:
Overall this was average set, number of qualifiers is slightly above average, but I believe quality is spot on or right around expectations. Set lacks two Ber/Jah/Cham combination, but also has Cham which does pump score up significantly. Number of 10+ pointers is above average though doesn't help for top 5 points. Solid set definitely.
[highlight]SECOND SET[/highlight]
Here I tested Fissure druid and Blova, but also used necro for a while mixing all 3 characters together.
Character: Fissure druid
GEAR:
Ravenlore with facet
2/20 amulet
Enigma
Hoto
Phoenix
Arach belt
Magefist gloves
2x beta BKWB
Silkweave boots
+5 skillers
Merc: Infinity, Fortitude, Andy
Skills:
1 Oak Sage
Max Fissure + synergies
Max Armageddon
Rest into Boulder
Player settings: p5
Runs done: 56
Runes found: 93
Cows killed per run average: 406
Avg time: 2:44
Cows killed per minute: ~148
With more tests I got him to ~140 cows per minute
Character: Blova
GEAR:
Griffon's with lite facet
Enigma (for lpk)
2/10 amulet
Eschuta's Temper with lite facet
Spirit
Arach
10/35mpk ring
beta BKWB
Silkweave
+5 lite skillers
Merc: Infinity, Fortitude, Andy
Skills:
1 Warmth
1 Telekinesis
X Static to reach ~24 area
20 Nova
20 Lightning Mastery
1 Cold Armor
20 Blizzard
1 Cold Mastery
Rest into Blizzard synergies
Players settings: p5
Runs done: 150
Runes found: 243
Avg. time: 136.24 s
Cows killed per run: 396
Cows killed per minute: 174.4
Qualifiers: 13
Cham, Sur, Ohm, 3x Ist, Gul, 3x Um, 3x Pul
This set was below average in both number and quality of qualifiers.
Notable finds across two sets:
Coral Small Charm of Vita
Small Charm
Required Level: 39
Fingerprint: 0x2ac63c18
Item Level: 81
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Unidentified
+20 to Life
Lightning Resist +8%
Jade Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0x8077a1a3
Item Level: 81
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Unidentified
Poison Resist +8%
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Sapphire Small Charm of Sustenance
Small Charm
Required Level: 32
Fingerprint: 0xd114e448
Item Level: 81
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15 to Life
Cold Resist +10%
Ruby Jewel of Fervor
Jewel
Required Level: 31
Fingerprint: 0xbbcf91cd
Item Level: 81
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Unidentified
+15% Increased Attack Speed
Fire Resist +29%
Diamond Jewel of Fervor
Jewel
Required Level: 31
Fingerprint: 0x739962a
Item Level: 81
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15% Increased Attack Speed
+40% Damage to Demons
+38 to Attack Rating against Demons
Sapphire Small Charm of Sustenance
Small Charm
Required Level: 32
Fingerprint: 0x4d42884f
Item Level: 81
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+12 to Life
Cold Resist +10%
The Stone of Jordan
Ring
Required Level: 29
Fingerprint: 0x61878364
Item Level: 84
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Unidentified
+1 to All Skills
Adds 1 - 12 Lightning Damage
+20 to Mana
Increase Maximum Mana 25%
Jade Jewel of Truth
Jewel
Required Level: 36
Fingerprint: 0xecb1c728
Item Level: 81
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+7% Faster Hit Recovery
Poison Resist +27%
Cow King's parts: 3 boots, 7 armors, 4 hats
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It has been a pleasure trolling you all and talking with ya. Solid round overall. Cows are awesome. Moo Moo.
Originally posted by me:
Lot's of options. Here's my old post about AS Java setups and gameplay video from RFL 2018. Back then I had just done a major overhaul to my Javazon setup, using this gear:
Griffon's 'Cham'
2/20 amulet
3/20 gloves
HHG with 2x RBF and 1x IAS
Enigma
Titan's
2x FCR + double leech rings
Razor
Silkweave
CtA/35 Spirit
Might Merc with Infinity, ebug Fortitude, Andy's with IAS/FR
Build is all-out LF + synergies.
Result is 99 FCR on CtA switch, and 35 IAS high damage from faceted shield on Titan's switch. CNBF is necessary and provided via Cham'ed Griffon's, since the use of 2x FCR rings means no Raven.
For general purposes, this remains the best overall Java setup I've played (or seen, honestly – #patonmyback
Griffon's with IAS/MPK jewel
Enigma
2/20 amulet
3/20 gloves
35 Spirit (main switch)
Raven
SoJ
Titan's
Arachnid Mesh
Silkweave
Switch: CtA/any Spirit
Same Merc as above.
Max Pierce, otherwise same build.
In the Java setups post linked above, I noted the possibility of this, but didn't test it back then. The idea is that, as opposed to e.g. Cow running, in AS you switch super often between teleporting and throwing. So I figured it could be worth teleporting on main switch with 99 FCR (because switching weapons is a bit slower than switching skills). The difficulty is to include CNBF while staying at 99 FCR and 35 IAS, because shield must be Spirit and Griffon socket must be IAS for this. Best solution I found was to drop one LF synergy, max Pierce instead, and replace Razortail with Arach (providing the FCR required when not using 2x FCR rings). It works extremely well, initial runs were around ~55 seconds.
As for budget, without Griffon's I think 99 FCR impossible to do in a sensible way, but otherwise the same thing can be done with standard 68 FCR instead. Couple of budget suggestions:
Option 1 (Arach, Pierce skilled):
Titan's
Enigma
35 Spirit
3/20 or 2/20 IAS gloves
2/20 FCR circlet (IAS + ideally MPK)
+2/something amulet or HLW
Raven
SoJ
Silkweave
Arachnid Mesh
This does not require very good FCR gear either. I like the HLW option for 55 IAS in this case to improve DPS a little.
Option 2 (Full LF synergies + Razor + FCR gear):
Titan's
Enigma
35 Spirit
3/20 or 2/20 IAS gloves
2/20 FCR circlet (IAS + ideally MPK)
+2/FCR amulet*
FCR/ML ring*
Raven
Silkweave
Razortail
* If you can get the 13 FCR required from the amulet it is enough to hit 68 FCR, then SoJ can be used instead of FCR ring.
Insight Merc works fine, Infinity is only a small advantage.
If a player doesn't have a suitable 20 FCR circlet, another possibility is to mix the above approaches and use Arach + FCR jewelry (maxing Pierce again) e.g. with Shako or something.
You do go back almost all the way to the WP. Yes you can also go the Warriv -> A1 route, but again from what I've seen it is not faster.
No, in fact I don't check the dead end whether or not the Summoner is there. Don't like the backtracking. Only thing I do is peak into the middle corridor (from bottom/right side to see drops better) and throw LF if ghosts are there.
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