US Protests - How do you think it's going to end

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Perhaps because I will never learn when to use "which" and when "that".
Use "that" for a defining clause, one which if taken away would destroy the sentence. Use "which" for non- defining clauses, as I did above.
 
Did anyone else notice that fly on Pence's head? Reminded me of one of those other things we often see flies sitting on. What are they called again? Rhymes with sand pit.
 
I haven't seen the betting odds worse for the Trumpian supporters since hmmm, when Trump recommended people consume bleach to treat covid19. Biden is at an all time best at just 1.4 (insert pog face emoji) and Trump at a very ordinary 2.8 (insert immigrant cleaner vacuuming corridor image). According to SportBet Biden has twice the odds in his favor. What a disastrous month this has been for the current US admin. And here I was thinking the days of one hit wonders was over.
 
According to SportBet Biden has twice the odds in his favor. What a disastrous month this has been for the current US admin. And here I was thinking the days of one hit wonders was over.
I'm sure you all are going to be overjoyed with the new administration... it's always better when the slaves beg to be abused.

Biden to voters: You “don’t deserve” to know my position on court-packing


...of course this thread is supposed to be about the riots. Which are apparently all in Trump's head, or something?

I have no doubt this is true after a fashion, because they're going to stop as if someone flipped a switch if the Democrats win the election.
 
Just following the money, I don't know of any betting organizations that have odds on when or how the riots will end. If one really is a Trump supporter and believe he will get re-elected now is a great time to bet on him with odds of 3.00. I wouldn't pass that up if I were a die hard conservative.
 
Just following the money, I don't know of any betting organizations that have odds on when or how the riots will end. If one really is a Trump supporter and believe he will get re-elected now is a great time to bet on him with odds of 3.00. I wouldn't pass that up if I were a die hard conservative.
Well, as anyone who cares noted, I'm not a Trump supporter precisely because I am a die hard Libertarian-conservative.

However, the chances that the riots keep going got a lot higher thanks to the extensive evidence that "Quid Pro Joe" has been getting millions of dollars in Chinese & Ukrainian kickbacks thanks to his son, Hoover. Sorry, his son Hunter.

So of course the Progressive fascists in the media are pretending there's not rock-solid evidence of all this corruption. That's why there's going to be an uptick in the rioting & violence, as if the filth aren't gunning down enough conservatives and police in the streets already. I doubt that the "SHH!! Voters are starting to realize Biden's supporting the riots & murders!" order stays in place much longer.

However, it was more than a bit funny to see the "trained Marxists" screaming for the death of Whitey were found to be extensively cashing in on their newfound fame. I'd link but the Proggy types here would be screaming that I'm lying, as they often seem to do. I don't really notice because I've muted them, but there's like 2 replies that I never see.
 
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Oh, you can mute on this site. How?

Trump would probably get back in if he wouldn't repeatedly shoot himself in the foot. It's about the only thing going for Biden is Trumps stupidity.

All the media care about is if there is enough money in publishing the story or does it run in their political interests. If its Murdoch run then its political interests first. Rupert Murdoch's pure existence is reason enough for people to lose faith in democracy considering what a negative impact he has had. We are all just waiting for him to die. Even his own son left the family business not that long ago, just look at how much coverage did not get.

It looks like America is about to trade off one douche for another. I'm still finding it hard to believe that Burnie Sanders didn't make it, there's a really bad smell coming out of those pre-selections. Maybe it was more hunter cash, or something more insidious.
 
Yes, I think the USA is a bit politically screwed at the moment. I agree that Biden is not really a good alternative, but that's all you have, the democrats decided to make him their candidate while the republicans were dumb enough to make themselves dependent on Trump to such an extent. So get over it and think in longer scales of time. Biden is old, it can't last that long.

I think that Bernie Sanders wouldn't have stood a chance to win versus Trump. Too many people in the US believe that he's what they call a socialist. It doesn't matter what I think about the extent of socialism in Sander's mind. In short: In my opinion, you have almost no socialists in the US, they have no power there at all. Most people there are fine with others telling them who's a socialist and who's not. For many, doing things that benefit the poor and weak is socialism, and thus to be opposed without a need for rational arguments, how convenient for the elite!

Discussing socialism in the US would be useless for me (note to myself: why TF did I bring even up the matter??). With regards to the US, I'm interested in international political, economic and military issues, a matter in which I believe myself to be pretty much pragmatic. That means, I'm fine to regard situations as they are, not as what I or others wish them to be. There is no friendship, fairness or equality among nations, only interests.
 
Discussing socialism in the US would be useless for me (note to myself: why TF did I bring even up the matter??).
I had to wonder that myself. It would be far more apropos to be discussing the riots in France.

As to American socialism, of course America is a socialist country. Any country with a substantial enough "safety net" and sufficient "fisting" (nasty sexual term) of markets by government entities can be considered thus.

In point of fact, there's more than one inter-national group which rates America as being substantially *more* socialist than the Progressives' fantasy understanding of the so-called "Nordic" states. Usually the ignorant types dismiss this as "corporatism" and the like, but it's merely the fascist side of the socialist coin (the obverse obviously being communism).
 
Yes, I think the USA is a bit politically screwed at the moment. I agree that Biden is not really a good alternative, but that's all you have, the democrats decided to make him their candidate while the republicans were dumb enough to make themselves dependent on Trump to such an extent. So get over it and think in longer scales of time. Biden is old, it can't last that long.

I think that Bernie Sanders wouldn't have stood a chance to win versus Trump. Too many people in the US believe that he's what they call a socialist. It doesn't matter what I think about the extent of socialism in Sander's mind. In short: In my opinion, you have almost no socialists in the US, they have no power there at all. Most people there are fine with others telling them who's a socialist and who's not. For many, doing things that benefit the poor and weak is socialism, and thus to be opposed without a need for rational arguments, how convenient for the elite!

Discussing socialism in the US would be useless for me (note to myself: why TF did I bring even up the matter??). With regards to the US, I'm interested in international political, economic and military issues, a matter in which I believe myself to be pretty much pragmatic. That means, I'm fine to regard situations as they are, not as what I or others wish them to be. There is no friendship, fairness or equality among nations, only interests.

We have very robust socialism... when it comes to corporations.

I've seen it many times that even though Bernie is considered to be socialist here he is center at best in comparison to european nations. I think that says a lot don't you?
 
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In point of fact, there's more than one inter-national group which rates America as being substantially *more* socialist than the Progressives' fantasy understanding of the so-called "Nordic" states. Usually the ignorant types dismiss this as "corporatism" and the like, but it's merely the fascist side of the socialist coin (the obverse obviously being communism).
Gah, you need to give us a while so we can wrap our heads around what you think socialism is and what facism is. A dictatorship is the perfect example of fascist communism. Corporate communism is what happened post GFC when governments were forcing businesses to merge to save 'not allowed to fail' businesses. Right now we are seeing a no end to corporate debt buy-ups by fed's (fisting?) which is also corporate communism but none of this is taking into account what it's like living with negative interests rates currently being tried in some European countries. Where on earth does that fit in? Negative interest rates seems more corrupt than anything else when you work out how the rich can leverage (move) their monies around the world. Corruption is pretty rife in the whole worlds political system right now, its making the 80's look pretty clean.
 
We have very robust socialism... when it comes to corporations.

I've seen it many times that even though Bernie is considered to be socialist here he is center at best in comparison to european nations. I think that says a lot don't you?
The part about corporations is spot on. Bernie's not at all centrist though. He's just deceitful - he claims to be in favor of domestic socialism but you'll find that he & his ilk always want corporate socialism first & foremost. AKA "follow the money". There's some great footage of his staffers saying the Soviet gulags weren't so bad & how everyone they disagree with needs to be sent to gulags come the Revolution.

Gah, you need to give us a while so we can wrap our heads around what you think socialism is and what facism is. A dictatorship is the perfect example of fascist communism. Corporate communism is what happened post GFC when governments were forcing businesses to merge to save 'not allowed to fail' businesses. Right now we are seeing a no end to corporate debt buy-ups by fed's (fisting?) which is also corporate communism but none of this is taking into account what it's like living with negative interests rates currently being tried in some European countries. Where on earth does that fit in? Negative interest rates seems more corrupt than anything else when you work out how the rich can leverage (move) their monies around the world. Corruption is pretty rife in the whole worlds political system right now, its making the 80's look pretty clean.
It's not terribly difficult, it's just that ignorant people have been brainwashed by the Left into thinking that certain flavors of socialism are somehow "right-wing" (meaning EEEEEBBILLL) and other types are good. All flavors rely upon loss of personal freedom and the oppressive power of the Federal State.

Dictatorships can occur under every form of government, though socialism is particularly endowed to cause them. It's pretty hard to get a dictatorship in a republican or parliamentary government - obviously, not at all hard to get one in Democracy because Democracy is just a fancy name for mob rule. America was never a Democracy.

Communism is socialism where the Federal State does not allow private enterprise.

Fascism is socialism where the Federal State allows private enterprise, but regulates & generally taxes the snot out of it. There's an argument to be made that both the U.S. and China practice this model. It's often referred to as "corporatism" because some people adore the concept of socialism so much that they don't want to recognize it's no different than the others.

American Progressives are fascist in nature. They want oppressive Gov't control of the private sector in order to reward & punish.

There's really no such thing as "Corporate communism".

Nationalism is simply used by ignorant people as a dirty word. Socialists of all stripes are Nationalist, and although Communists want to conquer & loot other countries in the name of the COMINTERN ("Communist International") they consider themselves the *real* rulers in the end.

Negative interest rates are a non sequitur, but that's peanuts compared to the financial shenanigans that "Socialist Democrats" eventually want to play.

Corruption occurs everywhere and under all systems. The more powerful the Government & its favored institutions, the more corruption. Haven't you wondered why you're not hearing anything about Joe Biden getting hundreds of thousands of dollars from the ChiComs?

History's a biatch, & that's why socialists hate it so deeply.

Why are y'all arguing these points here in the riot thread when both you and I made perfectly good thread about civilization specifically for this purpose?
 
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No offense but you are polluting the hell out of some interesting points with unnecessary views. It is my view that if you go too far left or right then you will end up and the same point. Usually today that is a dictatorship like Russia's. The problem we should both be recognising is that Russia has drawn in the world's wealthiest and today stands as testimony to the benefits of the flexibility of money per se.
 
New protests happening in the US Capital right now lead by the Proud Boys/Nazis. Capital building is on lockdown after the barriers were breached. Reports of protesters in the building right now.

The police are not using riot gear, pepper spray and shield this time because the protesters are white Republicans.protestscapital.jpg
 
They are at the Senate doors right now. The police must have used up all of their rubber bullets on BLM protesters.
 
It looks like I misspoke above. This isn't a protest. It is a coup attempt.
 
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