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[spiffymcbang]

so we gonna try this tonite?

I am out for this evening. As previously stated still in computer issue limbo. However Brad could let someone run his hammer tossing bad man and run my freeze zealot after of course making the new spirit. Or I can make the spirit and then hand him off to someone with a real computer.

Spiff

 

[Talga Vasternich]

Prebuffing = good idea
Dunno if this may help or if it'll muddy the waters, but there's an eth Barnars sitting in the pally mule. Ubers would be a good time to use it, if we're ever going to use it.

 

[emar]

As I have no idea what your barb is wearin. For those who want to know, IK all around cept armor ( duh ) deamon limb + dangoons teaching, Smoke in an Ornate plate with def of 845, +1 WC GC, lotsa little lifer and def charms, +3 WC and MF ammy, Dwarf and carrion wind rings. Switch is 2 swords that have +3 WC. In stash is IK maul, 2x baba's, heart carver, and some "spare" resist SC with other mods.

I didnt see any pro's or con's to the prebuff idea of throwing on the eth vmagi and anni. Was this not questioned or was it generally thought of a good idea and no comment was needed?

The Barb:

Razor's Edge
Smoke in Wire Fleece
IK Hat
IK Gloves
IK Belt
Gores/IK Boots
SS - He found it himself so it was only fair for him to keep it :shocked:
Ammy - I honestly don't recall
Rings - 2x Rare rings - LL, some ML and who knows what else.
No + to skills GCs
Some Max dmg, AR, Life, Res charms

Switch is +3/+3
LT wand in inventory to switch out one of the +3's after BO. Have Wolfhowl, pre-buff ammy, among other crap in stash.

If you want a higher pre-buff make that crappy Barb armor 1.11 RW - Myth is it?

 

[strikeamatch]

aight, so lets talk organs:

telesorc
someone with hitpower
(more damage for speed/safety)

anything else needed?

We have keys taking up space and i think we can obviously do the minis... so can we at least try that tonite? who wants to be hitpower and when are u available?

 

[monsinour]

aight, so lets talk organs:

telesorc
someone with hitpower
(more damage for speed/safety)

anything else needed?

We have keys taking up space and i think we can obviously do the minis... so can we at least try that tonite? who wants to be hitpower and when are u available?

I would love to come along on the mini's and tonight is fine with me. The main thing we are going to need is a tank to hold back the guys. I myself cannot tank all too well as my def is too low. However, there is that fuzzy bear who can tank like no ones business. I would just need all the other monsters gone so that the druid would live. Oh yea, some one was asking about the lava gouts, they are on my druid at the moment. My knockback/hitpower gloves were donated to the little druid changelings. Hey, what happened to them? Has anyone seen them on lately?

 

[strikeamatch]

I would love to come along on the mini's and tonight is fine with me. The main thing we are going to need is a tank to hold back the guys. I myself cannot tank all too well as my def is too low. However, there is that fuzzy bear who can tank like no ones business. I would just need all the other monsters gone so that the druid would live. Oh yea, some one was asking about the lava gouts, they are on my druid at the moment. My knockback/hitpower gloves were donated to the little druid changelings. Hey, what happened to them? Has anyone seen them on lately?

well.... heres my issue with izual: gigantic pink muscular firebreathing immune to everyfriggenthingintheworld. if they dont spawn my lite sorc can tele/pick (i think) and then we can slow work towards izzy from almost the end.

other than that its cake in a box....

 

[monsinour]

well.... heres my issue with izual: gigantic pink muscular firebreathing immune to everyfriggenthingintheworld. if they dont spawn my lite sorc can tele/pick (i think) and then we can slow work towards izzy from almost the end.

other than that its cake in a box....

not quite everything, just imune to sorcies. If i am not mistaken they are not imune to physical or hammers. So in this regards, yea Izzy would be a bear for just the 2 of us. However, i fully doubt that it would be just the 2 of us. The thing that bothers me with Izzy is the possibility of IM from the OKs.

 

[strikeamatch]

not quite everything, just imune to sorcies. If i am not mistaken they are not imune to physical or hammers. So in this regards, yea Izzy would be a bear for just the 2 of us. However, i fully doubt that it would be just the 2 of us. The thing that bothers me with Izzy is the possibility of IM from the OKs.

they're immune to magic... thats hammers right?

and i can telestomp OKs

 

[emar]

well.... heres my issue with izual: gigantic pink muscular firebreathing immune to everyfriggenthingintheworld. if they dont spawn my lite sorc can tele/pick (i think) and then we can slow work towards izzy from almost the end.

other than that its cake in a box....

If you wanna play around and have good teleing skills, you can actually get izzy to follow you (albeit slowly) right to the initial portal. No worries about any monsters there. If there is not much lag and I get BO I can do it for ya.

@ Mons: You talking about using a Summoner to take on the mini ubers? You will definitely need more than him. My Summoner's 'lil teddy is high 40's and gets Conc/Might/HoW/Fanat and he wouldn't fare well against Lilith and Dury. Pet's would get creamed.

If you want to do this you will most likely need 1) Fanat - looks like you are up Jay, 2) BO - to increase survivability, 3) Meh, that's good enough - unless you want another Tank.

EDIT: No despite the Immune to Magic header, Hammers work on the Ubar Venoms.

Haha hit the big 400!

 

[monsinour]

they're immune to magic... thats hammers right?

and i can telestomp OKs

Kinda. Hammers are magic, however, because these guys are deamons, hammers get through. There is like 1 or 2 monsters total in the entire game that are imune to hammers. They are not deamons or undead, and have to be imune to magic. Somewhere in the SPF is the answer as this was a question on one of their tourneys.

 

[strikeamatch]

Kinda. Hammers are magic, however, because these guys are deamons, hammers get through. There is like 1 or 2 monsters total in the entire game that are imune to hammers. They are not deamons or undead, and have to be imune to magic. Somewhere in the SPF is the answer as this was a question on one of their tourneys.

yeah i remember that now... silly demons... why cant bonespears work on MI demons eh? then my twinked necro would own all!!! mwahahaha

so yeah, cool, brad, you in?

 

[monsinour]

yeah i remember that now... silly demons... why cant bonespears work on MI demons eh? then my twinked necro would own all!!! mwahahaha

so yeah, cool, brad, you in?

I would guess that the logic behind why hammers work and spears dont is just that. Hammers are that blunt object that gets the 50% bonus to undead thingy. Spears on the otherhand do not. It all comes down to poor planning and the game mechanics. I am sure blizz intended those pink imune to most charaters to be imune to most charaters. However, because of loopholes, only casters, save hammerdins, are crapped out.

 

[Need a name]

If you want to do this you will most likely need 1) Fanat - looks like you are up Jay.

I'm ready for the big game coach:thumbsup: . I haven't faced ubers/mini ubers yet. They were gonna be my next thing to do on my old acct before I gave away all the items but I never got around to doing it so before we go in if someone could give me a little run down of how it should be done it would be very helpful.

 

[DeathdefyLives]

edit : @ death - arent you a kicker? Why not take the gores? or what about goblin toes and up them? I mean I will be checking my druid for "spare" gear to hand out to all as he is not going into trist and we are going to need all the help we can get.

didn't know there were spare gores...if there are, I'd definitely take.

 

[emar]

I'm ready for the big game coach:thumbsup: . I haven't faced ubers/mini ubers yet. They were gonna be my next thing to do on my old acct before I gave away all the items but I never got around to doing it so before we go in if someone could give me a little run down of how it should be done it would be very helpful.

Sure thing!

Enter game, Turn on Holy Shield, wait for the TP, you see the big guy....

SMITE

Just keep going, activity around you doesn't matter. Smite, smite, smite. If LT goes out you should be okay. Lilith can do considerable damage so if you are low HP have a couple Fat Purples ready.

 

[strikeamatch]

nobody here knows the spawning rules do they?

aight heres the lowdown... creatures spawn when they're within a screen or two of you... when they spawn their stats are defined and are NOT scaled according to the number of players in the game. So on ubers if you aren't godly... you should spawn them with one player in the game (i.e. teleport to them) and then have everyone else join...

i'm pretty sure the big ubers minions will not be defined by the ubers level so those will get a nice healthy upping from the number of players, but at least the big boys will be smaller.

risks: lagout = keyloss if u cant retrieve the game fast enough. you could always do it on players 2 and then attack with 8....

 

[monsinour]

So......we are going organ hunting tonight? Around what time? I will be busy with family things until 9:30 or 10 eastern. After that, I am all for killing things loudly and scraping body parts off of my hammers.

 

[strikeamatch]

So......we are going organ hunting tonight? Around what time? I will be busy with family things until 9:30 or 10 eastern. After that, I am all for killing things loudly and scraping body parts off of my hammers.

sounds like it, i'm available then, jeff? emar? anyone else? i think 3 should be able to, i'd like 4 for safety.

 

[emar]

nobody here knows the spawning rules do they?

aight heres the lowdown... creatures spawn when they're within a screen or two of you... when they spawn their stats are defined and are NOT scaled according to the number of players in the game. So on ubers if you aren't godly... you should spawn them with one player in the game (i.e. teleport to them) and then have everyone else join...

i'm pretty sure the big ubers minions will not be defined by the ubers level so those will get a nice healthy upping from the number of players, but at least the big boys will be smaller.

risks: lagout = keyloss if u cant retrieve the game fast enough. you could always do it on players 2 and then attack with 8....

I am well aware of the spawning rules. They are applicable for all monsters, like you said. If we are gonna be doing this with x players (not 1 or 2), I wouldn't be so concerned about spawning them in players 1. I'm sure we all have characters which can recover the Organ (turn it twinked of course) if the need should arise. Just start over from scratch and say "I told you so Emar, you n00b!!11!"

But realisitically, you think you'll be able to tele to Izzy with no DR and no BO? I know my sorc wouldn't be very successful like that. If you really, really are concerned, I say players 2.

I was actually going to suggest for Tristy to send a sorc in to tele through the mid or something just to peek at them, and then to call in the big guns. And yes, all the skeles and ghosties summoned in Trist will be affected by the players in the game.

I'm game for tonight on Mini hunting, though I'm out around 11 PM EST, can we do it before then? :undecided: If not, *sigh* you have to post screenies tomorrow :grin:

 

[strikeamatch]

I am well aware of the spawning rules. They are applicable for all monsters, like you said. If we are gonna be doing this with x players (not 1 or 2), I wouldn't be so concerned about spawning them in players 1. I'm sure we all have characters which can recover the Organ (turn it twinked of course) if the need should arise. Just start over from scratch and say "I told you so Emar, you n00b!!11!"

But realisitically, you think you'll be able to tele to Izzy with no DR and no BO? I know my sorc wouldn't be very successful like that. If you really, really are concerned, I say players 2.

I was actually going to suggest for Tristy to send a sorc in to tele through the mid or something just to peek at them, and then to call in the big guns. And yes, all the skeles and ghosties summoned in Trist will be affected by the players in the game.

I'm game for tonight on Mini hunting, though I'm out around 11 PM EST, can we do it before then? :undecided: If not, *sigh* you have to post screenies tomorrow :grin:

wasnt trying to be combative (just to ease the tension) it just sounded like not many/nobody knew....

i can telethru easily enough, expecting to die as soon as i stop moving... i know all the maps from my countless runs as a telemancer... and where the most likely safe paths will be... since i only need to get to him and then i can die... it'll be easy enough on izzy (once i die i can then get all in, get my bo, and find a landing spot) lillith is a bit of a bear at times tho if i get archers+hell witches, we'll see, but i still think i can players1 it...


so 10-11 is our window... easy nuf