Uber question

[skDynasty]

Uber question

Just wondering, why do people use smite instead of zeal to inflict CB on uber bosses?
Wouldnt zeal be ALOT quicker because it hits 5times in one?

 

[Bjam]

2 Huge reasons:

1) It always hits, so level an AR are irrelevant (Zeal doesn't always hit)
2) It only hits the main target (Zeal will be wasted on minions too)

That's it!

 

[skDynasty]

does the chance for CB register for each of the 5hits from zeal?
Dunno wut the defense of uber bosses are, but most of the time im killing dclone which has low def and no mobs, so i was thinking zeal would be alot quicker.

 

[Bjam]

I don't know what the exact defense of the Ubers is, but the real reason they aren't easy to hit is that they are level 110.

CB chance does get checked for every Zeal swing.

 

[RequiemDeath]

Using Zeal will take forever... I've seen it done before, but it is much more efficent to use smite... Like Bjam said, attack rating is a major factor with zeal, thus it doesn't always hit... Smite gets around all this... Plus, there are a lot of minions... As long as the boss is there, the minions are always going to be summoned...

*Requiem_Death

 

[skDynasty]

hmm...i think i shuolda narrowed this down more, ok so heres da deal...
LW vs Dclone, LW-ignores def Dclone-has no mobs(where i search for him).
Is zeal quicker here than smite?

 

[Bjam]

If you are using Grief, I'd expect Smite to be faster, but with LW, Zeal probably would be faster. He won't be any trouble either way if you are using LW.

 

[SmiterMcZealot]

ignores defense does not function against unique monsters.

 

[RequiemDeath]

ignores defense does not function against unique monsters.

This is correct... Crushing blow and open wounds are the damage dealers with this weapon vs. any of the ubers...

LW vs. DClone, smite is still going to be faster because again, smite ALWAYS hits... Zeal doesn't always hit... I've went for 4-5 zeal passes with no hits before because my AR sucks... If you have a massive AR number, then you probably can kill DClone quicker through zeal... BUT, if you don't have AR gear, my money is going to go on smite for killing speed...

*Requiem_Death

 

[Jackson1]

The bosses can block too, eh.. don't forget that.

 

[mephiztophelez]

Just wondering, why do people use smite instead of zeal to inflict CB on uber bosses?
Wouldnt zeal be ALOT quicker because it hits 5times in one?

smite is the most broken, overpowered skill in the game.

1: Smite ignores the AR calculation so it ALWAYS hits. so long as you are in range, you WILL hit with smite. a Level 1 pally with a norm den-of-evil point in Smite will hit Hell Nihlathak (highest level creep he can get too) for as long as he is in range and survives. the Ubers are mlvl110, a big whack in your Chance to Hit equation for ANY other attack.
2: Smite CANNOT be blocked (except by a c/c assassin or dodged by a 'zon)
3: Smite cannot be interrupted. while smiting away, you won't be knocked into hit-recovery no matter how much damage you take.

oh yeah, and smite carries CB + OW

now, compare with Zeal
1: Zeal is AR based, monster/char level difference plays a BIG part in the chance to hit equation.
2: Zeal can be blocked
3: Zeal can be interrupted (eg, you can get knocked into hit recovery)

oh yeah, and zeal carries CB + OW

now, why do you think smite is the preffered attack? :girly:

If you are using Grief, I'd expect Smite to be faster, but with LW, Zeal probably would be faster. He won't be any trouble either way if you are using LW.

LW is a piece of cheesy-goo sheisse. if Jah's started dropping like El's, i STILL wouldn't make one.