Too much IAS on my PVM Frenzy Barb?


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Nov 17, 2006
Too much IAS on my PVM Frenzy Barb?

Three Questions to orient your suggestions:

  1. Do I have to much IAS (Increased Attack Speed) with the 160/60 armor and 120/45 Helm, plus the IAS on weapons?
  2. Where should I put the 9 extra skill points?
  3. Can the gear be any better (I am filthy rich, suggest the godliest items)

Level 85 Frenzy Barb


20 Frenzy
20 Double Swing
20 Taunt
20 Sword Mastery
1 Natural Resist
1 Bash
1 Double Throw
1 Increased Stamina
1 Increased Speed
1 Iron Skin
1 Howl
1 Shout

9 ExTRA SKILL POINTS (Shout, Iron Skin, or Natural Resist?)


Enough Str to wear Gear
Enough Dext to wear Gear
No Energy
The rest in Vitality.

2 Angelic Halo (Ring)
Replenish Life +6
+20 To Life
+ (12 Per Character Level) (2 Set Items)

Angelic Wings (Amulet)
20% Damage Taken Goes to Mana
+3 To Light Radius
+75 Life

EBOTD (Ethereal Breathe of the Dying) Collossus Blade
50% Chance To Cast Level 20 Poison Nova When You Kill An Enemy
+60% Increased Attack Speed
+350-400% Enhanced Damage (varies)
+200% Damage To Undead
-25% Target Defense
+50 To Attack Rating
+50 To Attack Rating Against Undead
7% Mana Stolen Per Hit
12-15% Life Stolen Per Hit (varies)
Prevent Monster Heal
+30 To All Attributes
+1 To Light Radius
Requirements -20%

Greif Phase Blade
35% Chance To Cast Level 15 Venom On Striking
+30-40% Increased Attack Speed (varies)
Damage +340-400 (varies)
Ignore Target's Defense
-25% Target Defense
+(1.875 per character level) 1.875-185.625% Damage To Demons (Based on Character Level)
Adds 5-30 Fire Damage
-20-25% To Enemy Poison Resistance (varies)
20% Deadly Strike
Prevent Monster Heal
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
+10-15 Life After Each Kill (varies)

+ 160 Enhance Damage + 60 Increased Attack Speed Superior Archon plate

+ 120 Enhance Damage + 45 Increased Attack Speed Superior Bone Visage

Dracul's Grasp (Gloves)
+90-120% Enhanced Defense (varies)
+10-15 To Strength (varies)
+5-10 Life After Each Kill (varies)
25% Chance of Open Wounds
7-10% Life Stolen Per Hit (varies)
5% Chance To Cast Level 10 Life Tap On Striking

Verdungo's Hearty Cord
+90-140% Enhanced Defense (varies)
10% Faster Hit Recovery
+30-40 To Vitality (varies)
Replenish Life +10-13 (varies)
+100-120 Maximum Stamina (varies)
Damage Reduced By 10-15%

Gore Rider (Boots)
+160-200% Enhanced Defense (varies)
30% Faster Run/Walk
10% Chance Of Open Wounds
15% Chance Of Crushing Blow
15% Deadly Strike
Requirements -25%
+20 Maximum Stamina

+1 To All Skills
+10-20 To All Attributes (varies)
All Resistances +10-20 (varies)
+5-10% To Experience Gained

Hellfire Torch
+3 To Barb Skills
+10-20 To All Attributes (varies)
All Resistances +10-20 (varies)
+ Chance to case Firestorm

Secondary weapons:

CTA Flail (for Battle Orders)
+ 3 War Cries Weapon
use beserker axes instead of swords. more damage, not as much speed but you've gone overboard with ias.maybe go ebotdz///beastz so you get fanacism or go for botd///eDeathz. i think ideally (plz dont flame me if others disagree) there would be better choices of armour and hat.
okay, i know they are godly but as far as i know, you should hit last breakpoint with breath of the dying in right hand, fanatacism, and frenzy on own.
fortitude will give 300% enhanced damage and plenty of mods that are far more useful.
Arreats face is still my favourite barb helm for skills resists, defense, ar and fhr get a 200%ed, socket with a 40//15 and should be very nice :)
Those are pretty disgusting choices for armor and helm, hehe...

Fort= 300%ED, resists and life.

With your actual weapon you need 10% more ias from elsewhere then weapons to reach last breakpoint at 5fps.

Of course Fortitude runeword is better then the 160/60 .

A 40/15 arreat would grant you your last ias requirement, some other usefull helms coa / gaze / ral'ed andy .

You might even think of trying to put your hands on a lastwish collosus blade/phasebalde instead of the grief, not that its absolutly a better choice , but cause I self tried (with axe tho) and I prefer Lw to Grief for pvm.
Any ideas maxing BO ? This will raise your life alot more than any cta. And 2*3 bo spears/whatever, it will be even higher. I recommend to do this for all barbs, MAX BO. And I would use arreats with 40/15 in it and forti armor. You'll get nice dmg, resists, stats, some LL, life etc, which are much more usefull stats than 160/60 or any that kind of.
I was aware that the IAS might be excessive (I didn't know where it caped off, and how the ias worked on Frenzy), which is why I posted this thread: I don't see why Spankeh has to flame me for it. I will switch to fortitude + 40/15IAS Arreats.

Is the rest of the gear okay?

Do you guys agree that I should put the spare points in BO? I was thinking Iron Skin for defense!?!

Thanks to everyone, minus Spankeh.
definitely bo instead of iron skin.
as for equip i still think beserker axes with either botd/beast or botd/death. if your a die hard sword fan, use edeath collosus blade (or sword) instead of the grief. use dual ravens, cos somewhere you need cannot be frozen, and then amulet either metalgrid (if you still lack AR) or highlords for DS
Do you guys agree that I should put the spare points in BO? I was thinking Iron Skin for defense!?!
I still recommend you to max your BO, even that would mean you have to re-make your barb (I've done that few times before I noticed how usefull it really is). And you don't really need that defence. I think you will like the life/mana bonus over that.

Edit: What are your life/mana, defence and AR atm?
The barbarian doesn't exist at the moment, only the items. I will pay a friend 12 hrs to make him for me soon. I will max BO, I didn't realize it was so important. I want to use swords, and not axes (just a personnal preference).

I dont want to use Beast, because the extra IAS from Fanaticism is a waste right? I do realize it ups the attack too.

I like the idea of Death and Lastwish... which of these do you guys think would be best along side my EBOTDCB. Also, what type sword is best for either?

(My merc will wear a Perfect Pride and will be an NM Offensive Merc, so I will allready have Might and concentrate... will the Lastwish's Might aurau even help in this case?)
no it wont, the mercs aura will probably be higher than last wishes and it will be overidden. definitely death is the best choice. i swear by it, its what my frenzier uses. the crushing blow, deadly strike and other mods are great and complete the cake for me (so to speak...) its also eth so has higher damage than last wish.
EBoTD CB + Death is what I would go for.

Life tap: On gloves
Might: useless compared to mercs'
CB: Close enough... with Gores, etc, you should be fine.
Damage: worse than edeath
Speed: ehh... doesn't matter
Fade: No thanks. Any self-respecting barb should not need this in order to survive. If you need it for ubers, then go prebuff it.
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