Three Way Dance: V - Signup Thread

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Three Way Dance: V - Signup Thread

Well, I'm back and of course with my return comes the return of the Three Way Dance Hardcore tournament. I'm glad to see familiar faces and also newer ones that will now get a glimpse at a challenging, yet extremely fun tourney to play in.

Remember please that there are only 15 slots opening up for each division (Vanilla 1.12a and FAM), and a 6 month limit on this tournament beginning a week from now when signups are closed. Consider the time limit wisely - this is a tournament for those that are in for the long haul. If for any reason you don't think you'll be able to hold your interest long enough to complete the tournament or foresee a long break from Diablo II in the next 6 months, then do the right thing and don't register for a spot.

By all means, you may play alongside this tournament in a 'Showcase' capacity - even utilising the future game thread if you wish, but leave the 15 slots open for serious contenders who will complete the tournament's 6 month trek.

Enough jibber-jabber from me, let's get onto the rules ;)

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Tournament Rules

Character Restrictions

Choose three characters - all characters MUST be of a different class
ALL characters are to be Hardcore
Living characters must stay within ONE Act of each other
Characters can ONLY utilise two skill trees, not all three

Character Restriction Additions

Vanilla 1.12a and FAM divisions will be run separately. Please state in your posts what division you will be participating in.
Players must specify whether or not they are participating in a 'Self-found Grail' or if they prohibit themselves from trading with other players. If that is the case prize stashes from these players will not be collected but they may not receive prizes either.

Item Restrictions

Items can be bought from ALL Acts and difficulties
Items used may ONLY be Normal, Magic and Rare
Crafted, Runic, Set and Unique items CANNOT be used on characters or mercenaries at any point except outlined by the 'Character Rewards' section, below
Skills granted by an item for a skill tree that you do not use CANNOT be used if that item is equipped (IE: if a Sorc is using Fire and Cold skills and picks up an Orb with +1 Teleport on it, the Orb can be equipped but the Sorc may not use Teleport). This also includes inherent skills from socketed items made into Runic items and 'for-all-character' skills present on such Runewords as 'Enigma'.
Items with Passive skills for the Skill Tree you have NOT chosen that provide an ACTIVE bonus to your character may not be equipped (IE: if a Sorc is using Fire and Cold skills and finds an Orb with +1 Lightning Mastery on it, the Orb can be equipped as Lightning Mastery provides no bonus to Cold or Fire skills. However if a Sorc using Cold and Lightning skills and picks up an Orb with +1 Warmth, the Orb cannot be equipped as Warmth provides a Passive bonus to Mana Regeneration).
Charges are perfectly acceptable

Character Rewards

Players are given the option of equipping Unique, Runic, Set and Crafted items in an item slot of their choice when they:

Have made Destroyer
And again when they've made Conqueror
The rule of thumb for muling items is that once an item is muled off into/onto a prize stash/stash character it may not be muled back onto your tournament character. If you intend to use any Unique, Runic, Set or Crafted item or any Gem, Charm, Rune or Jewel at a later date for your tournament character it must stay on one of your living tournament characters.

The item slots available are as follows:

1. Headgear (includes Primal Helms and Animal Pelts)
2. Body Armour
3. Belts
4. Gloves
5. Boots
6. Shields (includes Paladin Shields and Necromancer Trophies)
7. Weapons (includes Sorceress Orbs and Amazon Bows/Javelins/Pikes)
8. Jewellery 1 (Amulet)
9. Jewellery 2 (Single Ring)

Or if you wish you may decide to forego ALL character rewards in exchange for this at Conqueror:

10. The Mercenary Package (Headgear - including Primal Helms for Act V Barbarians, Weapons and Armour - includes Shields for Act III Eastern Sorcerers)

There are two milestones that will allow you to equip Unique, Runic, Set or Crafted items onto your character and that is when reaching Destroyer and Conqueror status. You may only choose ONE DEDICATED ITEM SLOT per milestone. Not only that but the two item slots you plan to use must be decided BEFORE playing that character. For example:

A player using a Barbarian decides to choose '7. Weapons' as his slot reward for making Destroyer and '2. Body Armour' when he has become Conqueror. This now CANNOT be changed once he has commenced playing the Barbarian. If this player happens to find a Unique or Set Body Armour for his Barbarian (or creates a Runic/Crafted weapon), he MUST leave it on his Barbarian character or give it to one of his other tournament characters for temporary storage. It CANNOT be muled off onto his tournament stash and then put back on once he has made Destroyer with that Barbarian.

Play Restrictions

All quests MUST be completed before moving onto the next Act
Quests MUST be completed in order
Visiting previous difficulties is NOT allowed unless to socket, imbue or engrave items and change map seeds
Trading is NOT allowed between different players in this tournament, but it IS allowed between your own three characters

You may visit previous difficulties to change map seeds however buying items and gambling items from previous difficulties is still off limits. All quests must be completed in order (or as "in order" as Act II and III allow us to be). Yes, that means Nihlathak must be killed before Baal in ALL difficulties.

Special notes

Returning the Horadric Malus to Charsi, defeating Shenk the Overseer and killing Nihlathak are sufficient for completing those quests in Act I and Act V. It is up to you whether or not to use the imbue, engrave and socket rewards immediately or to save them for a later date
You CANNOT 'Save and Exit' if you are in trouble (or any other variation such as 'Alt-F4' and 'Slam my fist into the reset button'). If you find yourself in any kind of trouble at all fight to the death or fight your way out and Portal to Town but do not avoid dying honourably by saving and exiting or by any other dishonourable means.

Rewards

1 point per completed quest
3 points for finishing Normal Difficulty (making Destroyer)
5 points for finishing Nightmare Difficulty (making Conqueror)
11 points for finishing Hell Difficulty (making Guardian)
1 item slot granted for finishing Normal Difficulty (making Destroyer)
1 item slot granted for finishing Nightmare Difficulty (making Conqueror)

Or with regards to item slots one can forego their item slot rewards for Nightmare and Hell and choose to equip their Mercenary entirely once making Conqueror.

Helpful Numbers

30 points per character that has made Destroyer
62 points per character that has made Conqueror
100 points per character that has made Guardian

Your Contribution

All players must maintain a stash or stash character/s to store items for this tournament. All items that are found with your tournament characters must end up in one of the following places:

1. On your characters (dead or alive - self, inventory and in-game chest)
2. On your mercenary (dead or alive - within the confines of the character rewards section)
3. In/On your Prize Stash/Stash Character (via the accepted means such as Atma etc.)
4. Sold off or left on the ground

For this tournament I will be employing a 'Minimum Item Requirement' for prize stashes. In other words the only items that all participants should worry about putting into/onto their Prize Stashes/Stash Characters are:

TC3 items - if you do not know what they are, a list can be found via this thread; along with a very good explanation of where to find them: http://www.purediablo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=585846

Semi-Rare runes and above: Sol, Dol, Hel, Io, Lum, Ko, Fal, Lem, Pul, Um, Mal, Ist, Gul, Vex, Ohm, Lo, Sur, Ber, Jah, Cham and Zod.

Exceptional Unique and all Elite Unique and Set items.

If you don't think you can part with finding a very rare Elite Unique item then either state you wish to play 'Self-found' or do not enter the tournament at all. In previous tournaments we've given away some very nice items due to players' honesty (two that come to mind are the Grandfather and Cranium Basher), so once again I ask; if you cannot part with it, be honest from the very beginning and play as 'Self-found' or do not play at all.

A special note here about dead characters and items. When your tournament character dies you are NEVER to take items off that character for use on your other tournament characters or to transfer into your prize stash. Once a character is dead all items on that character are considered lost. If you cannot fathom losing items in such a manner then perhaps Hardcore is not for you. Please do not join this tournament if you cannot abide by that mandate.

In conclusion...

A time limit of 6 months applies in this tournament once the main playing thread has been created. Only two divisions will be available (Vanilla 1.12a and FAM mods), so register early - 15 slots will be available for each division (16 for Vanilla, including my own), to limit scoreboard hassles and walls of text.

Please state, along with your team name and characters, what division you will be playing in and whether or not you have opted to play as part of a 'Self-found Grail'; and whether or not you trade within the SP forum. If you do not have trade status you may still partake in this tournament but may not contribute a prize stash and may not receive prizes once the tournament is over.

Remember to also include your choice of rewards for every character, for Nightmare and Hell or if you wish to exchange them for Mercenary outfitting in Hell BEFORE commencing play. Remember that these cannot be changed once you have started playing your characters! Please be respectful and polite to other people in this tournament thread.
 
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And I present to the SPF:

[highlight]Team P§ÃÇHÕ[/highlight]
Carpe_Corpsum - (Necro: Curse/Summon) - Mercenary Package
Bowyah - (Amazon: P&M/J&S) - 7. Weapon/6. Shields
FistsOfFurry - (Druid: Summon/Elemental) - 1. Headgear/2. Body Armour

[edit] Made Merc Package for Necro and other choices for Druid. [/edit]
 
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Just curious: I could start a sorceress choosing Fire and....Paladin Combat, banking on finding a lem rune and being able to make a Passion weapon and use it as my reward for completing normal difficulty?
 
Re: Three Way Dance: V - Signup Thread

Just curious: I could start a sorceress choosing Fire and....Paladin Combat, banking on finding a lem rune and being able to make a Passion weapon and use it as my reward for completing normal difficulty?

That... is a strange conundrum.

I would say probably not - I mean, it's an interesting idea, but for the sake of keeping it very clear, let's just stick with the three skill trees that are naturally there for each character.

Hold onto that idea, though - I could find use for it in a future tournament ;)



 
Re: Three Way Dance: V - Signup Thread

I'll give this a go. I'm not self-found, having won a prize stash previously, and I'm more than willing to part with whatever shows up. Besides, I already have a Grandfather. ;)

[highlight]Team WoT - Vanilla[/highlight]

Aviendha: Amazon - J&S/P&M. 7. Weapon. 9. Jewellery 2
Perrin: Druid - Summon/Shapeshift. 7. Weapon. 9. Jewellery 2
Aginor: Necromancer - Summon/Curse. 2. Body Armour. 9. Jewellery 2

Aviendha being a Maiden of the Spear (short spears = javelins) will be a Fendazon, with Lightning Fury as a backup(!). Perrin with his ability to talk to wolves will naturally be a Fury wolf with wolf summons. Aginor, being the master and creator of all kinds of nasty beasties will have an army of the dead, namely mages.

Now, before I start:

1) Is this single-pass only, or can we re-run within the current difficulty?
2) Can we use any players setting we choose (except for cheesy p8 chest popping)?
 
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Sorry if this is a noobie question, but what is FAM?
And also, what is the rules on players setting?
 
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Question:

Are synergy points in the skill tree that has no been chosen allowed?

Example:

If I make a "charge" paladin and specify combat/offensive, can I still put points in vigor (defensive) for the charge synergy, so long as I never use the vigor skill itself?
 
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To answer all your queries...

Now, before I start:

1) Is this single-pass only, or can we re-run within the current difficulty?
2) Can we use any players setting we choose (except for cheesy p8 chest popping)?

1. No, it isn't single pass. As long as you haven't progressed into the next difficulty you are free to run all Acts as you wish.

2. Yes. Any players setting is allowed, apart from the cheesy p8 chest pops ;)

Sorry if this is a noobie question, but what is FAM?
And also, what is the rules on players setting?

FAM are 'Forum Accepted/Acceptable Mods'. Currently these are 'Red Rune Mod', which turns rune names red on the ground to differentiate them from other white loot; 'Rune Colour Mod' which colours rune names a different colour and 'Rune Word Mod' (I think that's the name of it), which allows On-Realm runewords to be used in SP.

All players settings are acceptable apart from the aforementioned p8 chest popping.

Question:

Are synergy points in the skill tree that has no been chosen allowed?

Example:

If I make a "charge" paladin and specify combat/offensive, can I still put points in vigor (defensive) for the charge synergy, so long as I never use the vigor skill itself?

No. The only skills you have available are from the two skill trees you've chosen. Like the Sorceress example I posted above in the rules, if you start a Combat/Offensive Paladin that utilises Charge, you may not equip an item that gives you a synergy bonus from the Defensive tree (such as Vigor).

I hope that clears it up :)



 
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[highlight]Team Shiny (Showcase, FAM)[/highlight]

Red -- Paladin, Combat/Offensive -- Weapons, Body Armor
Yellow -- Necromancer, Curses/Poison&Bone -- Mercenary Package
Blue -- Sorceress, Lightning/Fire -- Body Armor, Shields

I have a bad habit of joining tournaments and leaving them unfinished, so I will go unofficial with this one (aka, "showcase"). I do trade on the forums and will contribute my prize stash if I finish the tournament (although I will obviously be in contention for receiving any prizes, since I am an unofficial entry).
 
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Just to double-check:

It is impossible for any character to use an "Insight" runeword unless that character is a paladin who has chosen "defensive auras" as a skill tree, since that runeword provides an active meditation aura, right?
 
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Just to double-check:

It is impossible for any character to use an "Insight" runeword unless that character is a paladin who has chosen "defensive auras" as a skill tree, since that runeword provides an active meditation aura, right?

Yes, but it can also be used by Act II Desert Mercenaries if you have chosen the Mercenary Package instead of opting to use the two reward slots on yourself ;)

But remember, only after you've reached Conqueror...



 
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I am going to try this again. Last time I stopped playing when this tourney died away.

[highlight]Team Andi, FAM[/highlight]
Mr.X - (Druid: Shift/Summon) - 7. Weapons/2. Body Armour
Mr.Y - (Barb: Cries/Skills) - 7. Weapons/2. Body Armour
Mrs.Z - (Sorc: Cold/Light) - 7. Weapons/6. Shields

That's it so far.

-Andi
 
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[Highlight]Team NG, FAM Self-found[/Highlight]

TWD-Freeze - (Sorc: Cold / Light) - 2. Body Armor/6. Shields
TWD-Tosser - (Ama: Jav/Spear / Passive) - 6. Shields/ 8. Jewelry 2 (Ring)
TWD-Coffee - (Assassin: Trap / Shadow) - Merc Package

I'm going to cheap out on the builds and not go with anything too original/hard. I really want to do my very best to stay alive ;)
 
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I'm very glad to see more people signing up, no matter what the division :)

I'll give this a go. I'm not self-found, having won a prize stash previously, and I'm more than willing to part with whatever shows up. Besides, I already have a Grandfather. ;)


Jason Maher, just to clarify. I'm assuming you're Vanilla 1.12a, yes :) ?



 
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Forgot to mention I'll be going vanilla for this one. I normally play RWM/RRM, but as I won't be able to use an Insight stick on my merc, and I can't see where else I'll get any use from Ladder-only runewords with the options I've chosen, Vanilla it is. I've edited my signup post accordingly.

edit: pwned, and the answer is yes. BTW, you sound very like a Whitecloak in that post. Most appropriate (if you're familiar at all with the Wheel of Time book series). ;)
 
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LOL:dontknow: I'm just joining every Three-Way Tournament in sight. Seriously, sorry about the confusion by joining the old tournament :doh:

[Highlight]Team Quickdeath, 1.12a Vanilla; will donate stash [/Highlight]

Mirth----Paladin---Combat/Offensive Auras____D: Weapons C: Armor
KJ--------Amazon---Bow/Passive & Magic_____D: Weapons C: Ring
Mynxx----Sorc---Light/Cold_____________Merc Package
 
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One quick question. When does the tournament begin?
I'm itching to get started :)
 
Re: Three Way Dance: V - Signup Thread

One quick question. When does the tournament begin?
I'm itching to get started :)

In about a week from yesterday, give or take a few days depending on how many spots we can fill up :)

Quickdeath, that was funny, don't sweat it ;)



 
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Just a reminder that there's still slots available for this tournament in both a prize-donating and winning fashion and also a 'Showcase' participant type as well.

Don't be afraid if you're new, this isn't just for established folk - everyone is welcome :)
 
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Any news on when we can start? :)

Also, we need more players in this. Go go.
 
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