The Weather Outside Is Frightful! Die Hard Christmas Mafia Game - Day 4 (Game over - Scum Win)

I am wondering if BH (and coju) are hostages, with post/vote restrictions..

Also tempted to just vote BH to see if we explode. If he is "recruiting" players for real, he needs to be eliminated.
Interesting.. so we could have a hostage taker situation. But coju posted crusade nonsense in the middle of the day. So a hostage taker working by day or just triggering the hostage taking situation nonsense crusade stuff by day?
 
Well, Zhao wasn’t wrong about that. I don’t understand his kill, but I’m also afraid to agree with Baby’s conclusion as I feel like he has some sort of 3rd faction independent of the rest of us goals.

I need some higher level thinking here.

Use item ‘white powder’.

Hey Noodle bubbe, I have something you want , how about you tell me if you’re mafia or not, and then we can avoid a pasta party??

3rd factions, I love third factions! My favorite thing, except not.

@Babyhell, sorry no Twinkies here. Just pie. Hopefully somebody else out there is looking for pies.

What do pies have to do with anything? I'm assuming this is something that was delivered to you? You might have made yourself the target of people other than Babyhell now that we know you have pie.

Also, to be complete, I don't wait for now any reaction or readable move from @thefranklin or @Pyrotechnician, hence not listing them in my previous post.

Why am I excluded from your list again? I'm not sure I understand. Everyone is a suspect until they are not.

My theory is that both D2DC and Babyhell are the bad guys and this is their act.

This is one extravagant plan, its almost like the bus to end all busses of Pharphis and Jcakes (no one probably remembers that), but in no way makes sense at all. Based on the interaction between the two of them, I highly doubt they are related or connected in anyway, but that's just my thinking.

Seems widespread, I’d say be on the look out for it, but if you’re reading this,,,, it’s probably too late….

Ok, so who has the math/strategy on a lynch on D2? If we’re undecided does it help to give townies with some investigative powers more time to find the baddies?

To state my preferences, I prefer a Babyhell lynch, followed by D2DC, and theFranklin and Coju are giving me the willies for seeming to give Babyhell a free ride. I have null/no current fears of D2L or Skjole as they seem to be investigating w/o rushing to lynch…., unlike Pyro and Leo who are being too quiet, whether that’s because or IRL or a strategy…. Did I miss anyone? RIP Zhoue and I’ll never have a clue how what Noodle is doing, now or ever.
Its my famous strategy of real life, I call it, my lategy. The math is we should lynch, the end.

I initially thought about voting coju, since he(?) and Zhao really had something going against eachother on day 1. Zhao was gunning for coju, but with the in mind, it is almost too obvious to then kill Zhao at night. It puts suspicions on coju right away. That is, atleast in my mind. I haven't seen a whole lot talking about this angle.

On the other hand it is the perfect scum move, to then kill zhao, knowing that it would point towards coju, since they argued the entire day 1.

So what is it? A bad scum move by coju and the team or a genious scum move by the team that does not include coju?

Noted from my initial breakdown in my last post, Skjolde was the first one to speculate on Zhao/Coju connection. Something to keep in mind. I think it could be either way, as I noted, it could be spun to take pressure off coju, or put pressure on coju, depending on who took control of the conversation. Needless to say Babyhell took control of the conversation, so we got notta.
@Pyrotechnician or alright, let's say you don't want to have D2DC dead. What's your pointer?

I'm against killing you, as you are a townie imo. Better have the character alive and wait for scums to use their NK on you than losing a lynch...
I played 100% off my games with @D2DC
Whelp, this explains everything, I would want D2DC dead too then. :ROFLMAO: I'm not saying I don't want D2DC dead, the thing is I'm not sure if I want D2DC dead. Normally by now he has interacted with 90 different people including people not even playing, so its hard to get a read because the only posts he has is between you and him really. Based on what we do have, what do I have for my pointer? I'd say probably d2lover. Just something about him, opening the day with a vote directly for you with no explanation (not that I disagree with voting for you overall to remove the distraction) but the minimal input after combined with it is throwing me off. After that, I'd probably say Leo but at this point she will probably be modkilled, and then coju due to result of zhao dying.
 
The last page of randomness on post restrictions and creation of roles, etc.

Gorny has been known to create roles that fit his game setup/need for a game. I wouldn't put it past him, but I wouldn't start theory crafting some massively off the wall role with post restrictor/recruiter/bomb hybrid nonsense.

I think based on my gut reaction to all this fun, and internal thinking that probably makes no sense to anyone I'd like to see d2lover lynched. With all the nonsense we've had this day phase though I'd be happy enough voting for Babyhell or D2DC if it ends this nonsense, so I'll probably end up switching my vote before days end.

Vote: d2lover
 
Noted from my initial breakdown in my last post, Skjolde was the first one to speculate on Zhao/Coju connection. Something to keep in mind. I think it could be either way, as I noted, it could be spun to take pressure off coju, or put pressure on coju, depending on who took control of the conversation. Needless to say Babyhell took control of the conversation, so we got notta.
The thing that I speculated about was trying to draw anything based on their pretty heated interaction and the fact that Zhao is now dead. But yeah, it was me that pointed that out first. Honestly I think it is too thin to target coju on, because as I said. Killing Zhao could just as easily been a scum move to put focus on coju, since he argued with Zhao on day 1. Or maybe they counted on someone like me, coming along talking about how unlikely it would be that coju is actually scum, while he is in fact scum..

It's.. ehm, it's something.
 
The last page of randomness on post restrictions and creation of roles, etc.

Gorny has been known to create roles that fit his game setup/need for a game. I wouldn't put it past him, but I wouldn't start theory crafting some massively off the wall role with post restrictor/recruiter/bomb hybrid nonsense.
Is that to say, that you don't believe that BH is post restricted in any way? And that he makes these posts completely out of his own will?
 
Why am I excluded from your list again? I'm not sure I understand. Everyone is a suspect until they are not.
because of:
Sorry guys, this whole almost Christmas thing is ruining my fun times for playing. Let me get caught up real quick.
Did I misunderstood? You couldn't state that if you were a scum at this point, as for now I put you on the positive side. Either my english level made me misunderstood, or I have been manipulated, as you are now participating much more ;-)

Anyway.

Unvote: D2DC
Vote: Skjolde


*breathing*

Unvote: Skjolde
Vote: D2DC
 
The thing that I speculated about was trying to draw anything based on their pretty heated interaction and the fact that Zhao is now dead. But yeah, it was me that pointed that out first. Honestly I think it is too thin to target coju on, because as I said. Killing Zhao could just as easily been a scum move to put focus on coju, since he argued with Zhao on day 1. Or maybe they counted on someone like me, coming along talking about how unlikely it would be that coju is actually scum, while he is in fact scum..

It's.. ehm, it's something.

Yes, exactly, which is why I'm not really all for voting for coju yet or trying to build something out of the fact that you were the first to mention it, I don't see enough of a reason to do so yet.

Is that to say, that you don't believe that BH is post restricted in any way? And that he makes these posts completely out of his own will?

I think he could be post restricted, but any reasonable person with a post restriction normally just does enough to fulfill what they need to do until the restriction is lifted. Its possible he came up with this...whatever this is....to be the best way to fulfil whatever his end goal is.
 
My statement meant that I was gone for a good chunk of the day phase, mainly because I was spending time doing holiday things with the family. During the week I work, and usually take breaks from work to post in the game, so today I got caught up and was able to be more active.
 
Bingo. I can still find the post when I get to a pc.

This is one of my reasonings behind a frank vote.

The crusade. Yes…
The Twinkies were freed.
We were caught.
More pie to find.
I **** you not.
coju, this is your FIRST post AFTER voting for D2DC. What's up with the poetry?
We have two people acting weird, both voted on D2DC. It might not mean a lot, since BH has been acting weird for a long time, but still.
 
Unvote: D2DC
Vote: Skjolde


*breathing*

Unvote: Skjolde
Vote: D2DC
Interesting how long this took.. Also, technically I don't believe that will register as a vote for Skjolde since it was all in the same post.

@Babyhell can you UnVote me, and vote someone else in a separate post? Then feel free to move it back.
 
coju, this is your FIRST post AFTER voting for D2DC. What's up with the poetry?
We have two people acting weird, both voted on D2DC. It might not mean a lot, since BH has been acting weird for a long time, but still.
I tend to have that effect on people (in any mafia game). Once you vote for me once, you just can't resist the urge to vote me again and again.. XD
 
I tend to have that effect on people (in any mafia game). Once you vote for me once, you just can't resist the urge to vote me again and again.. XD
no kidding lol. But it just seems odd that there is a behavior change right after. I might also be grasping at straws. It would not be the first time.
 
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