The Ultimate Lightning Sorceress Build

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The Ultimate Lightning Sorceress Build

-Introduction-

This build is good in both PVP and PVM. Of course you can just use FCR EQ and maybe gain the 200 FCR breakpoint, but in my opinion it is NOT worth it.
Your resistance will suffer along with your damage. This build can easily solo BAAL and kill any other enemy in HELL.

-Skills-

Lightning skills

20 Lightning
20 Chain Lightning
20 Charged Bolt
20 Lightning Mastery
20 Nova (you will be able to fill Nova at lvl 95)
1 Telekinesis
1 Teleport
1 Static Field
1 Thunderstorm

Fire Skills

1 Warmth (the skill boost from your EQ will do the rest)

Cold Skills

1 Frozen Armor (optional, but I recommend it)

You might wonder why I didnt put anything into ES (energy shield). This is a VITA build so you wont need any ES, it is just a wasted skill point.

-Stats -

Strength- As much as you need to wear your equipment.

Dexterity- NONE (you could go for max block 75%, but then your life will suffer)

Vitality- Everything else after you are done with Strength

Energy- NONE

(A tip is to wait distributing your stat points untill you are in a lvl to use all your equipments.)

-Equipment-

Helmet

Griffons Eye -20% enemy light res, 15% light skill damage. Socked with a -5%/5% Lightning Facet. Die or up doesnt matter really because you will have a die on Escutas. (I know many people are sceptic against the Griffon, I was too untill I read this article about immunities: http://www.purediablo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=658719 )

Weapon

Eschuta's Temper
20% light skill damage. Socket with -5%/5% Lightning Facet. (Eschutas is the best weapon for a light sorc, dont listen on the people who says you should go with hoto.)

Second Weapon

Call to Arms 6 to battle orders. (You need a 6 CTA for the ultimate life and mana boost.)

Shield

Spirit Monarch with 35% FCR (Faster Cast Rate). ( There is really no other option here.)

Second Shield


Spirit Monarch dont bother about the FCR, you can use any spirit here.

Armor

COH Dusk Shroud (Chains of Honor) the ultimate armor for our lightning sorc since we dont need the teleport function from Enigma.

Gloves

Magefist 30 ED if you want a perfect build and I recommend upgrading them too. (Magefist is the good because of the 25% mana regeneration and the 20 FCR. Even the +1 to Fire skills will benefit your warmth stat.)

Belt

Arachnid Mesh (the ultimate belt for any caster no other option.)

Amulet

Maras kaleidoscope with 30 all res (I have been doing a lot of research here, because there are some crafted and rare amulets with 20 FCR, +2 sorc skills and some all res, but we have already achieved our breakpoints, so we dont need the FCR and since we are in a desperate need of resistance the Mara 30 will be the ultimate option here.

Rings

2x SOJ you will need the extra mana since we have nothing in energy. (Some people use 1x SOJ and a 10% FCR ring, as already said we dont need any more FCR so use 2x SOJ.)

Boots

ETH Sandstorm Trek
with 15 Strength and 15 Vitality. (we need the strength beacause of the high req of the Spirit.)

Inventory

Annihilus make sure it has much to attributes as possible. The resistance should be over 15. Its of course better with higher resistance but it comes second to the attributes.
Hellfire Torch with as high attributes as possible the res should be over 15 here too.

7 Lightning skillers and if you dont have max resistance in hell you should get small charms with life and all res

-Breakpoints FCR-

Lightning / Chain Lightning: 0 7 15 23 35 52 78 117 194
other spells: 0 9 20 37 63 105 200

Your FCR: 25+40+35+20+20= 140 FCR

The underlined breakpoints are what we should break. You could change your gloves to Frostburns or any rare gloves but then you will lose the 25% mana regeneration.
If you ask me you wont need any more mana with that regeneration you already have. You wont lose any mana when teleporting if you use magefist.

Merc

You should go for an ACT 2 Nightmare HOLY FREEZE merc.

Equipment


Armor: Perfect etheral Fortitude

Helm: Perfect etheral Andariels Visage socked with a 15 IAS (increased attack speed) 30% fire resistance JEWEL or simply a RAL rune to make up for the -30% fire resistance you will get using Andys.

Weapon:
Infinity (this is probably the most important item of a lightning sorc, with its lvl 12 conviction aura that breaks the enemys immunities. It also has around -50% enemy light resistance

Hope you liked it please submit your comments
 
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Re: The Ultimate Lightning Sorceress Build

If it's the "The Ultimate Lightning Sorceress Build", don't make a factory build, talk more indepth about gear, pros/cons of each piece. Why max vita instead of max block? It's also an usual, but strange judgment in the sense of gear and skills and so forth, it is always dependant on the situation.

Frankly, I've alot worse on this forums, but this is still Mediocre. You get a sense of structure because of the highlights, but If it had been bigger - the outline would've crumbled.
 
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Ok Rawness the reason why i wont max block is because its a sorcerer no a tanking hammerdin. I understand that some people want to have pros and cons about everything. I have read a lot of guides before i wrote this one.... and I thought they were blurry. Thats why i made it like a factory version.
of course you can find items that are rare wich i wrote. And they may be more godly than the items I have in my build. but with this build these items are the ultimate option.
If you have another suggestion on items here, please let me know what item and why you would use them.
 
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Re: The Ultimate Lightning Sorceress Build

If it's the "The Ultimate Lightning Sorceress Build", don't make a factory build, talk more indepth about gear, pros/cons of each piece. Why max vita instead of max block? It's also an usual, but strange judgment in the sense of gear and skills and so forth, it is always dependant on the situation.

Frankly, I've alot worse on this forums, but this is still Mediocre. You get a sense of structure because of the highlights, but If it had been bigger - the outline would've crumbled.
Ok Rawness the reason why i wont max block is because its a sorcerer no a tanking hammerdin. I understand that some people want to have pros and cons about everything. I have read a lot of guides before i wrote this one.... and I thought they were blurry. Thats why i made it like a factory version.
of course you can find items that are rare wich i wrote. And they may be more godly than the items I have in my build. but with this build these items are the ultimate option.
If you have another suggestion on items here, please let me know what item and why you would use them.


 
Re: The Ultimate Lightning Sorceress Build

If it's the "The Ultimate Lightning Sorceress Build", don't make a factory build, talk more indepth about gear, pros/cons of each piece. Why max vita instead of max block? It's also an usual, but strange judgment in the sense of gear and skills and so forth, it is always dependant on the situation.

Frankly, I've alot worse on this forums, but this is still Mediocre. You get a sense of structure because of the highlights, but If it had been bigger - the outline would've crumbled.

you beaten me to write that :( i am gonna cry cause i was too slow to say it all :(

*cries in corner*

you know i love you through, right? :grin:

going to back up rawness here.

if you think your vita is better then max block, please do explain to me, how can i clear baal room full of minotaurs with vana + gloams? your build does not have any dr, or decent defiance, you ll die if some extra strong monster going to hit you in hell.

need better equipment? did you check this thread?

do check linky in that threat of which i ve posted as well.


 
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you beaten me to write that :( i am gonna cry cause i was too slow to say it all :(

*cries in corner*

you know i love you through, right? :grin:

going to back up rawness here.

if you think your vita is better then max block, please do explain to me, how can i clear baal room full of minotaurs with vana + gloams? your build does not have any dr, or decent defiance, you ll die if some extra strong monster going to hit you in hell.
need better equipment? did you check this thread?

do check linky in that threat of which i ve posted as well.

Yes I have seen that build. I am going with vita build here because of the life you will get after using CTA 6. I have on my light sorc all this eq and I have tried it on baaling many times, and its almost perfect, it never dies. If you go with a ES build and get hit by a monster who drains your mana how do you manage then?
This is maybe the most important thing: You will loose a lot of Damage with your build, and thats not good a light sorc wont survive without damage! If you use infinity you cant use spirit wich is a great loss too.


 
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Yes I have seen that build. I am going with vita build here because of the life you will get after using CTA 6. I have on my light sorc all this eq and I have tried it on a baalbot once. I made 180 runs with only 3 chickens, Chicken means that I loose so much life that the bot is leaving. If you go with a ES build and get hit by a monster who drains your mana how do you manage then?
This is maybe the most important thing: You will loose a lot of Damage with your build, and thats not good a light sorc wont survive without damage! If you use infinity you cant use spirit wich is a great loss too.

i see you didnt read rules and terms of this site.

aslo, you looking at gear suggesting, yet you do not understand why its been done. infinity sorc does MORE damage then spirit + escuta.

mana drain? its a joke for proper es sorc. annoying? es. fearful? no. its just annoying to drink a mana pot. how many pots you drink per run? how many can you see mana burning pack? have you seen how fast mana regenerates on es build? HAVE YOU OWNED ES SORC?


 
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i see you didnt read rules and terms of this site.

aslo, you looking at gear suggesting, yet you do not understand why its been done. infinity sorc does MORE damage then spirit + escuta.

mana drain? its a joke for proper es sorc. annoying? es. fearful? no. its just annoying to drink a mana pot. how many pots you drink per run? how many can you see mana burning pack? have you seen how fast mana regenerates on es build? HAVE YOU OWNED ES SORC?

Infinity does more damgage then eschutas and spirit together? infinity that doesnt give you any skill boost at all does more damage then something that gives you +5 to all skills? Do you even have a light sorc with your build? your loss of FCR is also GREAT. eshutas gives you 40% FCR spirit gives you 35% FCR thats 75% FCR Where do you get that FCR from in your build????? I dont even use mana pots in my build. Why? beacuse my mana doesnt drain at all except some monsters who can drain mana. but, my mana regeneration is so good that it fills up FAST. I also said in the beginning that there are better build for pvp in the game, but this build is not bad at all. maybe es is a better option in pvp but it is certenly not in PVM

see you man:wave::crazyeyes:


 
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Re: The Ultimate Lightning Sorceress Build

Infinity does more damgage then eschutas and spirit together? infinity that doesnt give you any skill boost at all does more damage then something that gives you +5 to all skills? Do you even have a light sorc with your build? your loss of FCR is also GREAT. eshutas gives you 40% FCR spirit gives you 35% FCR thats 75% FCR Where do you get that FCR from in your build????? I dont even use mana pots in my build. Why? beacuse my mana doesnt drain at all except some monsters who can drain mana. but, my mana regeneration is so good that it fills up FAST. I also said in the beginning that there are better build for pvp in the game, but this build is not bad at all. maybe es is a better option in pvp but it is certenly not in PVM

see you man:wave::crazyeyes:

Infinity gives you 50-EL resistance. Switch around some other gear and you'll have 117 fcr. + Infinity has 20%fcr. It will do more damage than 5+skills. if you're thinking that the merc gives you the 50-el resistance, you're wrong. It only applies to the carrier of the item.
It all depends.

Btw: Killamike. I have some gear HC Eu gear I was given before if you want that. Just message me and i'll tell you the accounts. It was previously given to me by BoD. But don't play hc anymore.



 
Re: The Ultimate Lightning Sorceress Build

Infinity gives you 50-EL resistance. Switch around some other gear and you'll have 117 fcr. + Infinity has 20%fcr. It will do more damage than 5+skills. if you're thinking that the merc gives you the 50-el resistance, you're wrong. It only applies to the carrier of the item.
It is not that simple. It depends on lightning level and resist of monsters. With lower lightning level and lower monster resist, the infinity in hand becomes worse. For example with a typical setup of lvl 45 lightning the infi in hand setup does about 5% damage more against 75% resist monsters. With resists below that, it is inferior.
Without lightning skillers it is also inferior(due to the second derivative of lightning damage over level changes being below 1) except against immunes so the real way to measure it is compare the time lost killing immunes with a weapon/shield setup to time gained against nonimmune monsters(ie baal and wave minions) and the subjective value of the extra bonuses on the weapon/shield setup.



 
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It is not that simple. It depends on lightning level and resist of monsters. With lower lightning level and lower monster resist, the infinity in hand becomes worse. For example with a typical setup of lvl 45 lightning the infi in hand setup does about 5% damage more against 75% resist monsters. With resists below that, it is inferior.
Without lightning skillers it is also inferior(due to the second derivative of lightning damage over level changes being below 1) except against immunes so the real way to measure it is compare the time lost killing immunes with a weapon/shield setup to time gained against nonimmune monsters(ie baal and wave minions) and the subjective value of the extra bonuses on the weapon/shield setup.

Bah. didn't think it through and simply backed up. It is however superior in Chaos sanctuary and baal run. The -elr will make sure of that. You can generalize that any creature with at least 20%LRresistance, will go down faster with Infinity in hand. Baal, and most wave minions have Lightning resistance, including the Megademons and Minions of destruction, and baal too.



 
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Infinity does more damgage then eschutas and spirit together? infinity that doesnt give you any skill boost at all does more damage then something that gives you +5 to all skills? Do you even have a light sorc with your build? your loss of FCR is also GREAT. eshutas gives you 40% FCR spirit gives you 35% FCR thats 75% FCR Where do you get that FCR from in your build????? I dont even use mana pots in my build. Why? beacuse my mana doesnt drain at all except some monsters who can drain mana. but, my mana regeneration is so good that it fills up FAST. I also said in the beginning that there are better build for pvp in the game, but this build is not bad at all. maybe es is a better option in pvp but it is certenly not in PVM

see you man:wave::crazyeyes:

apparently you did not read links i gave you. es is more then just valuable in pvm, i got nice mfing sorc with es shield, and i tell you something, she is awesome and i have no regrets of making her ES, she is way safer then i thought she could possibly be.

please read all threats and posts i provided you in link.

@zrk, infi is more then valuable. like rawness said, there are no monsters in hell mode with -lighting res. all got 20+ lighting res. with infi, its about -50 and -elr mode finishes them off with -100 res, nearly doubling your onscreen damage. if you ll take in mind lighting immune, infi breaks them to lets say 90 res ( i am not pro when infi breakes lighting immunity, they still got about 90 res thro, right? ) -55 from infi and -20 from griffon ( okayish roll with rbf in it ) monster going to have about 20 all res. pretty low, and i dont think that +5 skills could do more damage then huge chunk of -res

@rawness i ve pmed you darling ;) time to start looted duels ^_^


 
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Infinity gives you 50-EL resistance. Switch around some other gear and you'll have 117 fcr. + Infinity has 20%fcr. It will do more damage than 5+skills. if you're thinking that the merc gives you the 50-el resistance, you're wrong. It only applies to the carrier of the item.
It all depends.

Btw: Killamike. I have some gear HC Eu gear I was given before if you want that. Just message me and i'll tell you the accounts. It was previously given to me by BoD. But don't play hc anymore.

Rawness i wasnt thinking that merc gives me -50 light res. It is only for the merc. But the conviction aura will benefit me. But of course there are some super unique monsters wich are resistant, but they are often alone so the merc kills them easily. What infinity has 20 FCR? please link me to a picture with a 20 FCR infinity, and how will it possibly do more damage than +5 all skills?


 
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apparently you did not read links i gave you. es is more then just valuable in pvm, i got nice mfing sorc with es shield, and i tell you something, she is awesome and i have no regrets of making her ES, she is way safer then i thought she could possibly be.

please read all threats and posts i provided you in link.

@zrk, infi is more then valuable. like rawness said, there are no monsters in hell mode with -lighting res. all got 20+ lighting res. with infi, its about -50 and -elr mode finishes them off with -100 res, nearly doubling your onscreen damage. if you ll take in mind lighting immune, infi breaks them to lets say 90 res ( i am not pro when infi breakes lighting immunity, they still got about 90 res thro, right? ) -55 from infi and -20 from griffon ( okayish roll with rbf in it ) monster going to have about 20 all res. pretty low, and i dont think that +5 skills could do more damage then huge chunk of -res

@rawness i ve pmed you darling ;) time to start looted duels ^_^

As said in the guide this is a PVM/ PVP build


 
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As said in the guide this is a PVM/ PVP build

please, use edit button, it is really annoying to look at your double posts.

and i disagree that this is ultimate. gear section is limited, only explanation i can see is: CAUSE ITS ULTIMATE. well.... its not.

your defiance is low, you have next to no dr, any mellee char will **** you hard. only advantage you have in pvp is skills. you have fcr over kill, you are half way to 200 fcr, i ll recommend to think again about your gear.

eschuta on vita sorc is damned awful, yes, hoto > eschuta for your build. you lucking res, if there is any other toon in pvp that heavily relies on -enemy res, you are as good as toasted. not forgetting anya quest bug, you do not even have 75% res.

let allow if you d go to CS any LR or Convie, leave out that mix, will mean you ll get screwed and get killed. not ultimate in my eyes.

mage is nice, but why you want them perfect? they are not eth after all, and upping them... get T-O gloves. they have cold res, lemmy see vid you fairing against cold sorc.

i agree that items you stat are awesome, but you didnt mix them properly and you ended up with BAAAAD guide.


 
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please, use edit button, it is really annoying to look at your double posts.

and i disagree that this is ultimate. gear section is limited, only explanation i can see is: CAUSE ITS ULTIMATE. well.... its not.

your defiance is low, you have next to no dr, any mellee char will **** you hard. only advantage you have in pvp is skills. you have fcr over kill, you are half way to 200 fcr, i ll recommend to think again about your gear.

eschuta on vita sorc is damned awful, yes, hoto > eschuta for your build. you lucking res, if there is any other toon in pvp that heavily relies on -enemy res, you are as good as toasted. not forgetting anya quest bug, you do not even have 75% res.

let allow if you d go to CS any LR or Convie, leave out that mix, will mean you ll get screwed and get killed. not ultimate in my eyes.

mage is nice, but why you want them perfect? they are not eth after all, and upping them... get T-O gloves. they have cold res, lemmy see vid you fairing against cold sorc.

i agree that items you stat are awesome, but you didnt mix them properly and you ended up with BAAAAD guide.

I have 75 all res in all elements i use small charms with 20 life and 5 all res.

Why would you use HOTO? you loose damage and since you dont need more mana in this build why using it? I cant say that your build is ultimate in any way you cant break the FCR breakpoints. 25 griffon + 20 magefist + 20 crafted amu + 20 arach+ 2x 10fcr rings. (then you need to change your armor to a Viper. viper sucks!
So we can agree that your build is not the ultimate either.

if you want all your items in your build to be perfect like I want. Its not nessesary at all but I like it because I have the required strength

I can put some points in dex to maybe gain 75 block. but it is not worth it.

If not using infinity (I never will) on sorc what would you change then.


 
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I have 75 all res in all elements i use small charms with 20 life and 5 all res.

Why would you use HOTO? you loose damage and since you dont need more mana in this build why using it? I cant say that your build is ultimate in any way you cant break the FCR breakpoints. 25 griffon + 20 magefist + 20 crafted amu + 20 arach+ 2x 10fcr rings. (then you need to change your armor to a Viper. viper sucks!
So we can agree that your build is not the ultimate either.

I can put some points in dex to maybe gain 75 block. but it is not worth it.

If not using infinity (I never will) on sorc what would you change then.

Hoto for All resistance and 10dexterity.

Again, this is stupid. Don't ever argue about the Ultimate Lightning sorc. It is dependant on 1. Personal preference 2. Circumstance. 3. Arguments

75 block is worth it, I say. Max vita is worth it too. But I prefer 75block since a Sorc is fragile - I don't die as easily. You might lose some points, but that's allright with me, as dying is way worse than killing a boss 2 seconds faster.

If you want to make a build, don't just take your own perspective and force it upon others, it makes it narrow and boring. Find explicit reasons instead of blindly trying to support your own side. An example is saying that Max block isn't worth it... Why ignore that it can increase your survival, and just say "it isn't worth it.... for me". As a reader, you want some objectivity, atleast in this type of areas instead of arguments that fall-short.



 
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I have 75 all res in all elements i use small charms with 20 life and 5 all res.

Why would you use HOTO? you loose damage and since you dont need more mana in this build why using it? I cant say that your build is ultimate in any way you cant break the FCR breakpoints. 25 griffon + 20 magefist + 20 crafted amu + 20 arach+ 2x 10fcr rings. (then you need to change your armor to a Viper. viper sucks!
So we can agree that your build is not the ultimate either.

I can put some points in dex to maybe gain 75 block. but it is not worth it.

If not using infinity (I never will) on sorc what would you change then.

i prefer vipers over any other cheesy rune word. i know that chance of vipers being dupe is by far most unlikely then getting coh.

Hoto for All resistance and 10dexterity.

Again, this is stupid. Don't ever argue about the Ultimate Lightning sorc. It is dependant on 1. Personal preference 2. Circumstance. 3. Arguments

75 block is worth it, I say. Max vita is worth it too. But I prefer 75block since a Sorc is fragile - I don't die as easily. You might lose some points, but that's allright with me, as dying is way worse than killing a boss 2 seconds faster.

75% block as awesome, but i d say not with spirit, cause it has extremly low % to block. imo ss is up to job, at level 90 i had about 200 something ( after items ofc ) points in dex. dont complain what so ever, any physical damage was laughable and absurd.

like i said.... anya bug, and any -enemy res char / mod / monster will give you hard time.


 
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Hoto for All resistance and 10dexterity.

Again, this is stupid. Don't ever argue about the Ultimate Lightning sorc. It is dependant on 1. Personal preference 2. Circumstance. 3. Arguments

75 block is worth it, I say. Max vita is worth it too. But I prefer 75block since a Sorc is fragile - I don't die as easily. You might lose some points, but that's allright with me, as dying is way worse than killing a boss 2 seconds faster.

If you want to make a build, don't just take your own perspective and force it upon others, it makes it narrow and boring. Find explicit reasons instead of blindly trying to support your own side. An example is saying that Max block isn't worth it... Why ignore that it can increase your survival, and just say "it isn't worth it.... for me". As a reader, you want some objectivity, atleast in this type of areas instead of arguments that fall-short.

I am not stubborn and narrow. I am up to change my gear if you can convince me with a better solution. wearing infinity is not a solution for me.

I could go for 75% block with a stormshield like killamike want. but then again how much life does i loose doing that. then I agree Hoto would be a better solution than eshutas. but you will lose vitality not using spirit.

so you think 75% block

griffon
Hoto or
crafted amu with 20% Fcr?
COH
treks
magefist
arach
sojs x2

why not using small charms 20 life and 5 all res?


 
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i give up, i had enough explonation for today, i ll give you more bullet points some time tomorrow when i ll be in better stat to explain everything, and most likely i ll start new threat for that with reasoning :)

no offense meant.
 
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