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The PvP Thread

@Gripphon Nice. Should we aim for 19-20h CET roughly? Hope that also works for froz.

No need to restrict yourself to 1.13 stuff for me :) unless that's what you wanna do ofc.

Also, question. Already discussed some of this with froz, but maybe you or @maxicek or any other Trapper pros have some more insights:

So I finally have a nice pair of Trapper claws. Now the question is what to socket, also noting that my standard Trapper setup is built around a 2/20 circlet with an IAS/@ jewel. One socketing for sure will be the 15/15 jewel, but as for the other one I'm hesitating. My second best available IAS/@ jewel is 15/9, so that would give me 30 IAS, 24 all resist on those claws.

I'm leaning towards doing that, although I'm mostly thinking about my current candiate claws/combinations, namely:
  • GT/GT: The IAS calc is a bit funny but I gather I need 42 IAS to hit 9fpa traps. So one other source is enough, such as my current circlet socketeing, or alternatively another IAS jewel in the second claw.
  • SQ/GT (WSM bugging): I have two potentially usable Scissors Quhab with +4 LS each. Now when WSM bugging with those and the GTs on boot side, I understand I need 19 IAS to hit 9fpa traps. That would be reached with 30 IAS GTs in off hand, so I'd have full flexibility on sockets in headpiece and other claw.
There's of course options such as FHR or -req with resist and whatnot, I'd use those on glove side claw if I do go with the 30 IAs socketing. For the GTs specifically if I don't need the 30 IAS, there's also the option to include DEX for auto-WSM bugging with SQs... although I don't mind doing it manually really.

Any thoughts or things I'm not aware of here? To me the 30 IAS, 24@ option seems sound, but don't want to waste such jewels only to run into some problems in some scenario I'm missing. :p
 
ffs said:
Nice. Should we aim for 19-20h CET roughly? Hope that also works for froz.
  • GT/GT: The IAS calc is a bit funny but I gather I need 42 IAS to hit 9fpa traps. So one other source is enough, such as my current circlet socketeing, or alternatively another IAS jewel in the second claw.
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Timing does work for me. I'll set the game up around there. I'll get 1.14 trapper so you can practice GvT. Trap mirror is really bad so let's skip on that.

Pretty sure IAS from secondary claw doesn't contribute to trap laying speed. Only primary claw does, and the rest of the gear, but offhand claw IAS shouldn't (except claw type ofc). I'm not sure if you are missing something. In general I think SQ/GT is better overall because it allows you to use something else in helmet as socketing options (Cham and Ber are usually more useful than going 45 IAS GT/GT). Only reason I went GT/GT is because I managed to cram 45 IAS on primary claw, but if I couldn't, I'd 100% be going SQ/GT.

If you are unsure on full committing your jewels, you could try Shael + allress jewel without affix on GT (SQ/GT needs 19 IAS iirc and Shael would cover it) as nice temp and req + something on SQ. You'd be losing ~10 allress for the time being, but could still rethink jewels options for long term.
 
Sounds good for tonight, I should l2p Ghost anyway. I don't think I killed Delsy's trapper even once last time we played, so definitely could use some practice in that matchup in particular. :D

Re claws: Right, that's where I thought the IAS calc was behaving weirdly but indeed, secondary claw IAS doesn't matter. Which leads me to think it's a pretty clear choice to socket the 30 IAS, considering it frees headpiece socket for SQ/GT setups and it's downright required for GT/GT setups. Agreed re SQ/GT being generally preferrable and I'm aiming for that combo, hoping I'll get 2os on one of those +4 LS SQs with my next socket quest.
 
I'll try necro with a more aggressive playing style. 152 FHR setup and solid movement speed.
 
Thanks for games the other day Grip & froz. Fun diversity of builds to get some practice against with Ghost.

Sessions this weekend?

I could maybe do today, but if so I'd be joining pretty late. Tomorrow (Saturday) I'm busy all evening, but Sunday I can do for sure.
 
Friday - Maybe if others are playing
Saturday - Probably not, may be going out
Sunday - Yes
 
UltraViolet LCS as discussed earlier in the week:
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Code: 
Name:       UltraViolet
Class:      Assassin
Experience: 2493477335
Level:      95

            Naked/Gear
Strength:   96/197
Dexterity:  165/213
Vitality:   284/306
Energy:     25/25
HP:         1090/1613
Mana:       166/464
Stamina:    542/592
Defense:    41/1870
AR:         100000789/100001277

Fire:       91/51/-9
Cold:       146/106/46
Lightning:  145/105/45
Poison:     79/39/-21

MF:         95       Block:      75
GF:         0       FR/W:       75
FHR:        97       IAS:        45
FCR:        102

Fire Blast: 1/22
Shock Web: 20/41
Blade Sentinel: 0/0
Charged Bolt Sentry: 20/41
Wake of Fire: 1/22
Blade Fury: 0/0
Lightning Sentry: 20/41
Wake of Inferno: 0/0
Death Sentry: 20/41
Blade Shield: 0/0

Claw Mastery: 1/14
Psychic Hammer: 1/14
Burst of Speed: 1/14
Weapon Block: 1/14
Cloak of Shadows: 1/14
Fade: 1/14
Shadow Warrior: 1/14
Mind Blast: 16/29
Venom: 0/0
Shadow Master: 1/14

Tiger Strike: 0/0
Dragon Talon: 0/0
Fists of Fire: 0/0
Dragon Claw: 0/0
Cobra Strike: 0/0
Claws of Thunder: 0/0
Dragon Tail: 0/0
Blades of Ice: 0/0
Dragon Flight: 0/0
Phoenix Strike: 0/0

Horadric Cube
Fingerprint: 0x9d4d74d9
Item Level: 13
Version: Expansion 1.10+

Tome of Identify
Fingerprint: 0x35178966
Item Level: 99
Version: Expansion 1.10+

Scroll of Town Portal
Version: Expansion 1.10+

Entrapping Grand Charm of Vita
Grand Charm
Required Level: 69
Fingerprint: 0x1ee4534c
Item Level: 88
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to Trap Skills (Assassin Only)
+38 to Life

Entrapping Grand Charm of Vita
Grand Charm
Required Level: 69
Fingerprint: 0x53902148
Item Level: 99
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to Trap Skills (Assassin Only)
+37 to Life

Entrapping Grand Charm of Vita
Grand Charm
Required Level: 69
Fingerprint: 0xe6028dbd
Item Level: 94
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to Trap Skills (Assassin Only)
+36 to Life

Entrapping Grand Charm of Sustenance
Grand Charm
Required Level: 42
Fingerprint: 0x46158086
Item Level: 88
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to Trap Skills (Assassin Only)
+30 to Life

Entrapping Grand Charm of Sustenance
Grand Charm
Required Level: 42
Fingerprint: 0xfff391a4
Item Level: 81
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to Trap Skills (Assassin Only)
+29 to Life

Entrapping Grand Charm of Sustenance
Grand Charm
Required Level: 42
Fingerprint: 0x2bb25a09
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to Trap Skills (Assassin Only)
+27 to Life

Entrapping Grand Charm of Balance
Grand Charm
Required Level: 42
Fingerprint: 0x477dd0f8
Item Level: 86
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to Trap Skills (Assassin Only)
+12% Faster Hit Recovery

Entrapping Grand Charm of Vita
Grand Charm
Required Level: 69
Fingerprint: 0x61551a8
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to Trap Skills (Assassin Only)
+38 to Life

Entrapping Grand Charm of Vita
Grand Charm
Required Level: 83
Fingerprint: 0x1867670e
Item Level: 99
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to Trap Skills (Assassin Only)
+45 to Life

Super Mana Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenishes Mana 250%

Super Mana Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenishes Mana 250%

Ruby Grand Charm of Vita
Grand Charm
Required Level: 69
Fingerprint: 0xc35d5ac0
Item Level: 87
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+38 to Life
Fire Resist +28%

Entrapping Grand Charm of Sustenance
Grand Charm
Required Level: 42
Fingerprint: 0xdc7ae840
Item Level: 99
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to Trap Skills (Assassin Only)
+25 to Life

Infernostride
Demonhide Boots
Defense: 101
Durability: 9 of 12
Required Level: 29
Required Strength: 20
Fingerprint: 0x9af0804b
Item Level: 99
Version: Expansion 1.10+
5% Chance to cast level 8 Blaze when struck
+20% Faster Run/Walk
Adds 12 - 33 Fire Damage
+140% Enhanced Defense
+15 Defense
+10% to Maximum Fire Resist
Fire Resist +30%
40% Extra Gold from Monsters
+2 to Light Radius

Snake's Small Charm of Vita
Small Charm
Required Level: 39
Fingerprint: 0x2c95ad1
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+19 to Life
+12 to Mana

Snake's Small Charm of Vita
Small Charm
Required Level: 39
Fingerprint: 0x7ecbc54e
Item Level: 93
Version: Expansion
+17 to Life
+12 to Mana

Amber Small Charm of Vita
Small Charm
Required Level: 39
Fingerprint: 0x9067367e
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+19 to Life
Lightning Resist +11%

Shimmering Small Charm of Life
Small Charm
Required Level: 25
Fingerprint: 0xc0731c62
Item Level: 99
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+10 to Life
All Resistances +5

Shimmering Small Charm of Sustenance
Small Charm
Required Level: 25
Fingerprint: 0x6e0e5bea
Item Level: 90
Version: Expansion
+14 to Life
All Resistances +5

Ruby Small Charm of Vita
Small Charm
Required Level: 39
Fingerprint: 0xe847dd6d
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+19 to Life
Fire Resist +11%

Ruby Small Charm of Vita
Small Charm
Required Level: 39
Fingerprint: 0x2825540c
Item Level: 90
Version: Expansion
+19 to Life
Fire Resist +12%

Emerald Small Charm of Vita
Small Charm
Required Level: 39
Fingerprint: 0x2d9e3042
Item Level: 90
Version: Expansion
+20 to Life
Poison Resist +12%

Emerald Small Charm of Vita
Small Charm
Required Level: 39
Fingerprint: 0x3f35a52a
Item Level: 63
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+20 to Life
Poison Resist +11%

Garnet Small Charm of Vita
Small Charm
Required Level: 39
Fingerprint: 0x1d393127
Item Level: 88
Version: Expansion
+19 to Life
Fire Resist +9%

Serpent's Small Charm of Vita
Small Charm
Required Level: 40
Fingerprint: 0xd55d733d
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+16 to Life
+16 to Mana

Serpent's Small Charm of Vita
Small Charm
Required Level: 40
Fingerprint: 0xee6992b6
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+18 to Life
+16 to Mana

Serpent's Small Charm of Vita
Small Charm
Required Level: 40
Fingerprint: 0x4ef691ef
Item Level: 90
Version: Expansion
+19 to Life
+15 to Mana

Serpent's Small Charm of Vita
Small Charm
Required Level: 40
Fingerprint: 0x442a30d
Item Level: 87
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+16 to Life
+15 to Mana

Super Mana Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenishes Mana 250%

Super Mana Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenishes Mana 250%

Witch-hunter's Circlet of the Magus
Circlet
Defense: 20
Durability: 29 of 35
Required Level: 67
Fingerprint: 0xd81284d7
Item Level: 90
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to Assassin Skill Levels
+30% Increased Attack Speed
+20% Faster Cast Rate
Lightning Resist +28%
Fire Resist +26%
2 Sockets (2 used)
Socketed: Ruby Jewel of Fervor
Socketed: Ambergris Jewel of Fervor

Ruby Jewel of Fervor
Jewel
Required Level: 31
Fingerprint: 0xcbce509f
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15% Increased Attack Speed
Fire Resist +26%

Ambergris Jewel of Fervor
Jewel
Required Level: 31
Fingerprint: 0x31b34b8d
Item Level: 57
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15% Increased Attack Speed
Lightning Resist +28%

Doom Noose
Amulet
Required Level: 89
Fingerprint: 0x2898c360
Item Level: 95
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to Assassin Skill Levels
+7% Faster Cast Rate
+3 to Dexterity
+88 to Mana
Regenerate Mana 9%
All Resistances +16

Enigma
Breast Plate
JahIthBer
Defense: 825
Durability: 40 of 50
Required Level: 65
Required Strength: 30
Fingerprint: 0x1d34cc49
Item Level: 20
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to All Skills
+45% Faster Run/Walk
+1 to Teleport
+757 Defense
+71 to Strength (Based on Character Level)
Increase Maximum Life 5%
Damage Reduced by 8%
+14 Life after each Kill
15% Damage Taken Goes To Mana
95% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items (Based on Character Level)
3 Sockets (3 used)
Socketed: Jah Rune
Socketed: Ith Rune
Socketed: Ber Rune

Jah Rune
Required Level: 65
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Ignore Target's Defense
Armor: Increase Maximum Life 5%
Shields: +50 to Life

Ith Rune
Required Level: 15
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: +9 to Maximum Damage
Armor: 15% Damage Taken Goes To Mana
Shields: 15% Damage Taken Goes To Mana

Ber Rune
Required Level: 63
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 20% Chance of Crushing Blow
Armor: Damage Reduced by 8%
Shields: Damage Reduced by 8%

Raven Frost
Ring
Required Level: 45
Fingerprint: 0x59ea6658
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+248 to Attack Rating
Adds 15 - 45 Cold Damage Over 4 Secs (100 Frames)
+20 to Dexterity
+40 to Mana
Cold Absorb 20%
Cannot Be Frozen

Bul-Kathos' Wedding Band
Ring
Required Level: 58
Fingerprint: 0xd37a79fe
Item Level: 75
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to All Skills
5% Life stolen per hit
+47 to Life (Based on Character Level)
+50 Maximum Stamina

Arachnid Mesh
Spiderweb Sash
Defense: 134
Durability: 10 of 12
Required Level: 80
Required Strength: 50
Fingerprint: 0x2f8e0e12
Item Level: 87
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to All Skills
+20% Faster Cast Rate
Slows Target by 10%
+114% Enhanced Defense
Increase Maximum Mana 5%
Level 3 Venom (11/11 Charges)

Shadow Dancer
Myrmidon Greaves
Defense: 142
Durability: 24 of 24
Required Level: 71
Required Strength: 167
Fingerprint: 0xf3a3e05a
Item Level: 87
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to Shadow Discipline Skills (Assassin Only)
+30% Faster Run/Walk
+30% Faster Hit Recovery
+98% Enhanced Defense
+25 to Dexterity
Requirements -20%

Trang-Oul's Claws
Heavy Bracers
Defense: 69
Durability: 9 of 16
Required Level: 45
Required Strength: 58
Fingerprint: 0x31d91e21
Item Level: 87
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to Curses (Necromancer only)
+20% Faster Cast Rate
+25% to Poison Skill Damage
+30 Defense
Cold Resist +30%


Super Mana Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenishes Mana 250%

Super Mana Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenishes Mana 250%

Super Mana Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenishes Mana 250%

Super Mana Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenishes Mana 250%

Super Mana Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenishes Mana 250%

Super Mana Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenishes Mana 250%

Super Mana Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenishes Mana 250%

Call to Arms
Superior War Scepter
AmnRalMalIstOhm
One Hand Damage: 37 - 63
Durability: 80 of 80
Required Level: 57
Required Strength: 55
Fingerprint: 0xd24f673
GUID: 0x3ff0f5af 0x14584f 0x0
Item Level: 87
Version: Expansion
+2 to All Skills
+40% Increased Attack Speed
271% Enhanced Damage
+150% Damage to Undead
Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
7% Life stolen per hit
Prevent Monster Heal
+1 to Sanctuary (Paladin Only)
+1 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+3 to Vigor (Paladin Only)
+9 to Battle Command
+12 to Battle Orders
+10 to Battle Cry
Replenish Life +12
30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Increase Maximum Durability 15%
5 Sockets (5 used)
Socketed: Amn Rune
Socketed: Ral Rune
Socketed: Mal Rune
Socketed: Ist Rune
Socketed: Ohm Rune

Amn Rune
Required Level: 25
GUID: 0x13dd403 0x13dd403 0x0
Version: Expansion
Weapons: 7% Life stolen per hit
Armor: Attacker Takes Damage of 14
Shields: Attacker Takes Damage of 14

Ral Rune
Required Level: 19
GUID: 0x6b953526 0x3e0ea6ee 0x0
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
Armor: Fire Resist +30%
Shields: Fire Resist +35%

Mal Rune
Required Level: 49
GUID: 0x5ea5a27d 0x1826ab49 0x0
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Prevent Monster Heal
Armor: Magic Damage Reduced by 7
Shields: Magic Damage Reduced by 7

Ist Rune
Required Level: 51
GUID: 0x44d56e98 0x2daf376c 0x0
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Armor: 25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Shields: 25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Ohm Rune
Required Level: 57
GUID: 0x548decc5 0x4a3eed5 0x0
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Enhanced Maximum Damage
Armor: +5% to Maximum Cold Resist
Shields: +5% to Maximum Cold Resist

Spirit
Monarch
TalThulOrtAmn
Defense: 137
Chance to Block: 0
Durability: 86 of 86
Required Level: 54
Required Strength: 156
Fingerprint: 0x6ede6d15
Item Level: 83
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to All Skills
+35% Faster Cast Rate
+55% Faster Hit Recovery
+250 Defense vs. Missile
+22 to Vitality
+90 to Mana
Cold Resist +35%
Lightning Resist +35%
Poison Resist +35%
+6 Magic Absorb
Attacker Takes Damage of 14
4 Sockets (4 used)
Socketed: Tal Rune
Socketed: Thul Rune
Socketed: Ort Rune
Socketed: Amn Rune

Tal Rune
Required Level: 17
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
Armor: Poison Resist +30%
Shields: Poison Resist +35%

Thul Rune
Required Level: 23
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 3 - 14 Cold Damage Over 3 Secs (75 Frames)
Armor: Cold Resist +30%
Shields: Cold Resist +35%

Ort Rune
Required Level: 21
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 1 - 50 Lightning Damage
Armor: Lightning Resist +30%
Shields: Lightning Resist +35%

Amn Rune
Required Level: 25
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 7% Life stolen per hit
Armor: Attacker Takes Damage of 14
Shields: Attacker Takes Damage of 14

Spirit
Phase Blade
TalThulOrtAmn
One Hand Damage: 31 - 35
Indestructible
Required Level: 54
Required Strength: 25
Required Dexterity: 136
Fingerprint: 0x2d6e2a75
Item Level: 79
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to All Skills
+35% Faster Cast Rate
+55% Faster Hit Recovery
Adds 1 - 50 Lightning Damage
Adds 3 - 14 Cold Damage Over 3 Secs (75 Frames)
Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
7% Life stolen per hit
+250 Defense vs. Missile
+22 to Vitality
+108 to Mana
+5 Magic Absorb
4 Sockets (4 used)
Socketed: Tal Rune
Socketed: Thul Rune
Socketed: Ort Rune
Socketed: Amn Rune

Tal Rune
Required Level: 17
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
Armor: Poison Resist +30%
Shields: Poison Resist +35%

Thul Rune
Required Level: 23
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 3 - 14 Cold Damage Over 3 Secs (75 Frames)
Armor: Cold Resist +30%
Shields: Cold Resist +35%

Ort Rune
Required Level: 21
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 1 - 50 Lightning Damage
Armor: Lightning Resist +30%
Shields: Lightning Resist +35%

Amn Rune
Required Level: 25
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 7% Life stolen per hit
Armor: Attacker Takes Damage of 14
Shields: Attacker Takes Damage of 14

Stormshield
Monarch
Defense: 490
Chance to Block: 47
Durability: 69 of 86
Required Level: 73
Required Strength: 156
Fingerprint: 0xf427dd7b
Item Level: 87
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Indestructible
+15% Increased Attack Speed
+35% Faster Block Rate
25% Increased Chance of Blocking
+356 Defense (Based on Character Level)
+30 to Strength
Cold Resist +60%
Lightning Resist +50%
Damage Reduced by 35%
Attacker Takes Lightning Damage of 10
1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Ambergris Jewel of Fervor

Ambergris Jewel of Fervor
Jewel
Required Level: 31
Fingerprint: 0x4278e57d
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15% Increased Attack Speed
Lightning Resist +25%
 
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Wait isn't Friday today? I will put the game up in 2-3 min for anyone who wants to join but likely won't play much. I've overworked myself rather bad so don't want to spend too much time in front of PC.

Game up in 2 min on
 
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Fun games yesterday. Except against delsy‘s max block trapper, that is no fun with Ghost. :)

Slowly getting the hang of the gameplay, although my execution still leaves much to be desired. But perhaps even more importantly getting a better idea how to play against Ghost or other WW chars. In particular didn’t realise how much those puddles and rocks can screw up whirling patterns. Definitely will try to abuse things like that against WW chars in the future. :p It certainly changes how those close up encounters play out.

Today I’m busy all evening, but hoping to see a bunch of people tomorrow!
 
I like how Delsy made his trapper with focus on burst of speed and block. Her movement is certainly a powerful asset, outrunning whirls, quick to position and desynch a lot. Regular trapper can't properly use that tactics since she moves rather slowly in comparison unless made with 1.07 Valk and fast boots. To think of it, it makes her a bit weaker against sorcs, she will likely lose to careful necro, but any melee character is usually doomed and hammer I believe is similarly hard this way and with claws. Bowazon should be twice as easy with max block too. Other trappers should have advantage and that's pretty much it. It is hardly any proper downsides to block variant of trapper overall, a bit less life maybe.

It requires a lot of concentration to hit her with whirlwind. If you miss, you must wsg out or hope to whirl to her but that doesn't work. Ghost should have very hard time cracking that strategy, much easier against c/c trapper who can't really run out of whirling so easily, reposition and mindblast you to oblivion.
 
All of his characters are well built (and played) tbh, even if I have a clear matchup advantage with characters I'm comfortable playing by now, it’s always a ton of work. ;)

I suppose not having claw block is a disadvantage vs all casters in comparison to regular Trapper. I guess similar to Druid, it's a basic decision as to whether you want to significantly improve matchups against physical damage characters on the one hand, or have a stronger setup against casters on the other hand. Difference being that Druid can relatively easily gear for 2 different setups with the same character and having an alternative setup stashed, in the end "only" losing some ~150 dex and corresponding life amount. For Trapper on the other hand it's pretty much an entirely different build, i.e. not really possible on the same character. That being said, I do want to try W/S Trapper as well at some point. But for now I'm still shopping claws in order to finish my C/C Trapper. :)
 
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