The Berserker Build

[Legacy_QuEsT]

lextalionis: yes, ias frames are the same for berserk as for normal attack.

Legacy_QuEsT: Spears are better (faster) weapons than Polearms, for two-handed build. I too want to make such a build, so I did some research, and the best weapon I've found is Arioc's Needle (Unique Hyperion Spear), socketed with Shael (to reach 6.2 attacks/second or 4 fps/attack in Whirlwind). Skills? Berserk/Whirlwind; if you`re affraid of Berserk, simply allocate just one point into it (for Physically Immunes), max Whirlwind, Battle Orders and Shout.

What about a Botd spear. I know that IAS on the helm does not effect the weapon speed for WW but how about for beserk?

 

[NightyNight]

You can't but you don't need it. If you use my set-up, the 20% damage-to-mana keeps your bulb up fine. Also, I used potions throughout the game, and the 4th slot of my belt was all mana pots.

crg

Uhm, % dmg taken goes to mana raises your mana? ALL THIS TIME I THOUGHT THAT IT DAMAGES YOUR MANA...grrrr, stupid b.net ppl confuse me.

 

[Radu]

Well, yes, BotD in a Ghost Spear or any other fast enough elite spear, is the best weapon; but on the realm I play, Zod is almost non-existent :lol:
I just love that :flip: (I have a Vex and a few days ago I found an ethereal Colossus Blade).

 

[LoneRunner]

I want to make a Concentrate/Berserker build. So I need some information.
I'm gonna use:

- eth BOTD BA 355%(unlucky me...)
- Arreat 17x% cham
- SS um
- gores
- 2 angelic rings with amulet
- Verdungo's 15% 35vit
- Stone Archon(1900def) or Duress Archon(still to make)
- blood gloves: 10%CB, 8 str, 2 dex, 14life, 17x def (for big def)
- life charms, ar charms.

Stats:
- 186 str in total (with storm)
- 200 dex @ lvl 90
- 350-400 vit points

Skills:
- 20 conc
- 20 axe mastery
- 20 cry
- 20 BO
- 10 Berserk
- reqs and one point wonders

I'd would to know, from the ones who have similar chars:

- dmg with berserk, ar with berserk
- dmg with conc, ar with conc, def with conc...

I'll put this on a conc thread too...

 

[Radu]

This build is a waste of skill points; it will perfrom, however, pretty well vs. monsters. Why is it a waste? You won`t have enough damage with any of the skills - berserk and concentrate. Unless you only play normal & nm.

 

[LoneRunner]

This build is a waste of skill points; it will perfrom, however, pretty well vs. monsters. Why is it a waste? You won`t have enough damage with any of the skills - berserk and concentrate. Unless you only play normal & nm.

I won't kill so fast with berserk (I believe, but berserk rises more that conc n equal lvls of skill), but concentrate will do quite a good dmg itself. The last baba, was a ww one, but had only 7 into conc (with skills) and maxed bo; concentrate dmg was better than ww dmg.
I don't make a pure berserker cause won't go quite well into pvp...

I don't share ur point of view. I won't max bash which synergizes with Conc (cause it gives 5% physical per level), but I'll put into berserk that gives magic dmg into conc.
With max show I'll synergize both BO and Berzerk.

Actually, I didn't want ur advice on the build only the numbers I asked.
So, if someboby has something similar, plz post...

Anyway, I'm building it right now and I'll post @lvl90. In some days, I think.

 

[Radu]

One point in Berserk will be enough; max concentrate, weapon mastery, shout, battle orders will give you enough damage on both skills, since shout is synergy for berserk and battle orders for concentrate, and you`ll have concentrate maxxed.

 

[LoneRunner]

One point in Berserk will be enough; max concentrate, weapon mastery, shout, battle orders will give you enough damage on both skills, since shout is synergy for berserk and battle orders for concentrate, and you`ll have concentrate maxxed.

Sorry, my mistake: I should have put:

Skills:
- 20 conc
- 20 axe mastery
- 20 shout (my intention)
- 20 BO
- 10 Berserk
- reqs and one point wonders

So I'll have decent dmg in conc and berserk. I anticipate smth like at least 5 to 6k max dmg with conc and more berserk. This way I'll have both. I'll let aside ww, cause I'm bored with it. AR will be huge with both and def too when conc.

I think it's gonna be viable enough, but just wanted to hear real figures, not just estimates.

 

[icefall]

i have decided to build a beserker barb in Hc west, i have all the gears prepared. But, i couldnt decide to use which weapons.

These r the weapons i have:

Grandfather(no socket 86-326)
Death Cleaver(no socket 89-265)
Rune master(With a shael and 5 33+ed jewels 167-334 dmg)
Eth demon limb (no socket 158-284)
Stormlash(11-316 no socket)
Horizontal unique scourage (11-256 no socket)
Schaefer's hammer (Shaeled, 107-299 dmg)

I couldnt decide on which weapon to use, some has more speed but less dmg such as stormlash and deathcleaver, the others have more dmg but less speed such as rune master, gf and schaefer. so if anyone can tell em which is betetr for beserker i will appriciate it

Also would it be better to max both shout and howl instead of weapon mastery? since synergy gives more dmg and im going to use highlord and deadly strike is same as critical hit but only higher % and critical hit doesnt stack with deadly strike? im a little worry about ar tho, i dunno if it be 10 k ar with only lvl 1 base mastery and rest is add by items.

 

[bushido]

hey radu , would u mind posting what ur barb wears???
Im just curious, much thx will be appreciated if u do....

 

[808Keahiwai]

My duel gear is:

190/5 Arreat socketed with ias
SS socketed with Shael
40/11 Verdungo
Angelic ammy/1 Angelic ring
Raven
Gore
60 ias/63 life Jeweler`s Ornate Plate

He posted it right here..


Also, what type of charms are ideal for a zerker?
Should i be looking for mastery/combat charms? OR just max/ar ones?

 

[bushido]

lol thx i didnt musta missit it

 

[Radu]

Hi. Indeed, that`s my combat gear, but I can`t match with whirlers or zealots. That`s it, they are much faster. I`ll try harder maybe. My charms are 1 masteries, 1 warcries, these grand: 10 to max. dmg/xx (73 or so) ar, 9 max. dmg/xx, 8 max dmg/xx, 7 max dmg/xx and a bunch a small charms of vita (17-20). The ideal charms are fine small charms of vita: 3 to max dmg/xx to ar/17-20 life. Untill there, I find charms with damage/ar better than combat or masteries. In particular, those with masteries are good when doing mf (bonus to Natural Resistances).

icefall: go with Death Cleaver. That`s my weapon too, a 272% ed one, socketed with 38% ed. It`s a great weapon. If you use Berserk as the only combat skill (no WW), you should socket it with Shael. Next, any barb who wishes to play on Hell diff. mode, MUST have the desired Weapon Mastery maxxed; after that max Sout. Howl is the last to max; when making a barb, I first max BO, then Weapon Mastery, then Berserk, then Shout, then Howl.

 

[icefall]

I just realized today that Death cleaver has based speed of 0 and with its 40 ias, its speed became -40. But i also found out that phase blade has a base of -30 speed. Lightsbare has 20 ias, azurewrath has 30 ias, which make them with -50 speed and -60 speed, azurewrath has -20 more speed and lightsbare has -10 more speed than death cleaver. Should i use azurewrath and ligthsabre instead of death cleaver?

And how much - speed does a beserker barb need? like for druid's mauler u need -110 speed with phase blade, so its -140 speed. Also how much faster hit recovery should i have?

 

[lextalionis]

I just realized today that Death cleaver has based speed of 0 and with its 40 ias, its speed became -40. But i also found out that phase blade has a base of -30 speed. Lightsbare has 20 ias, azurewrath has 30 ias, which make them with -50 speed and -60 speed, azurewrath has -20 more speed and lightsbare has -10 more speed than death cleaver. Should i use azurewrath and ligthsabre instead of death cleaver?

And how much - speed does a beserker barb need? like for druid's mauler u need -110 speed with phase blade, so its -140 speed. Also how much faster hit recovery should i have?

I don't think you can add speeds like that. Base speeds and IAS are very different. It also depends on the type of weapon and the character using its base frame rate.

 

[tidus2005]

since i have seen that some of you have made a pure zeker barb and i was wondering what might be a good weapon for it, besides Botd's and doom/beast. because those are really out of my cost range right now. not sure what another good weapon would be but i was thinking that a griz caddy might be nice because it only needs 89 ias to reach final breaking point and it can have some okay damage.

another side question how is skill ed factored in. meaning is it better to have a weapon with alot of base damage or will one with alot of damage after ed work better. because i was thinking about using a 5 socket rune master but 174 ias is quite a lot i think because even if i 5 shael it for 100 ias i still would need to find another 74. so i was thinking that maybe a griz caddy with 2 shael's for 40 ias and its natural 40 ias would bring me to 80 so i only need to find one more item with ias on it to use. this would also leave me 2 open sockets in my weapon.

 

[kle02]

Well I have my own lvl 86 zerker He's strong but I still think its a weak character...
My dmg on this char is approx 1.5k-4.3k which I think kinda sucks...
Stats with gear are:
250 str
195 dex
175 vit <-----this is a problem I always have >_<
10 nrg
Stats without gear are:
190 str
160 dex
160 vit
10 nrg
Resists in hell are:
59, 75, 59, 59
Gear is:
Veil of Steel
Doombringer<----another weapon option I could have? I have 2 rare elite swords but ED is 123% on one and 143% on another, Bul Katho's Children Set
Shaftstop<----also have Lionheart Ornate Plate
Siggards Sheath<-----I need suggestion for this
Gore Riders
Bul Katho's wedding band
Raven frost
Stormshield with open socket<----I am considering a p.diamond
Bramble Fist (rare sharkskin gloves) 20% IAS, +15 AR, +47% ED (defense), +15 dex, Regen Hp +3, Cold res +23%
Bone Necklace (rare ammy) 14% chance to cast lvl 5 chg bolt when struck, +1 barb skills, 1-15 light dmg, 7% ML, Cold res +14%, Lightning res +14%, Fire res +14%, Psn res +19%
My charms consists of +50 psn dmg, approx. 13% FHR and some with 9% resists, I have 2 warcries GC and 1 mastery GC but its not enough for this barb...
Skills I have are:
20 Berserk
20 Shout
20 Sword Mastery
13 Howl
11 BO
Although I think I already screwed up...
Well I guess my question is should I remake this char one more time? And would a Crescent Moon Legend Blade be good for a zerker? For one thing I can't afford Botd (Crappy non-ladder) or really high quality crap!

 

[Szordrin]

Sockets can be cleared now, so go ahead and use that diamond. A better weapon is in order here.

 

[jimmah]

I would like to make a zerker, but the only good weapon I have is IK Maul. Should I wait until I find a better one-handed weapon instead?

Is it much more difficult without a shield?

 

[Randal.Flag]

Well I have my own lvl 86 zerker He's strong but I still think its a weak character...
My dmg on this char is approx 1.5k-4.3k which I think kinda sucks...
Stats with gear are:
250 str
195 dex
175 vit <-----this is a problem I always have >_<
10 nrg
Stats without gear are:
190 str
160 dex
160 vit
10 nrg
Resists in hell are:
59, 75, 59, 59
Gear is:
Veil of Steel
Doombringer<----another weapon option I could have? I have 2 rare elite swords but ED is 123% on one and 143% on another, Bul Katho's Children Set
Shaftstop<----also have Lionheart Ornate Plate
Siggards Sheath<-----I need suggestion for this
Gore Riders
Bul Katho's wedding band
Raven frost
Stormshield with open socket<----I am considering a p.diamond
Bramble Fist (rare sharkskin gloves) 20% IAS, +15 AR, +47% ED (defense), +15 dex, Regen Hp +3, Cold res +23%
Bone Necklace (rare ammy) 14% chance to cast lvl 5 chg bolt when struck, +1 barb skills, 1-15 light dmg, 7% ML, Cold res +14%, Lightning res +14%, Fire res +14%, Psn res +19%
My charms consists of +50 psn dmg, approx. 13% FHR and some with 9% resists, I have 2 warcries GC and 1 mastery GC but its not enough for this barb...
Skills I have are:
20 Berserk
20 Shout
20 Sword Mastery
13 Howl
11 BO
Although I think I already screwed up...
Well I guess my question is should I remake this char one more time? And would a Crescent Moon Legend Blade be good for a zerker? For one thing I can't afford Botd (Crappy non-ladder) or really high quality crap!

One cheap way to boost vita is ik pants, I mean the belt gloves and shoes. The gloves will get 25 % ias as partial bonus, they have 20 str+ 20 dex, belt has 25 str, so you can issue all those str and dex into vita hard points instead.