The 1pt smiter guide to Uber Tristram v 1.0.
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I've got a pretty stock build hammerdin I'd like to solo uber with...current equip is:
shako
enigma DS
arachnid mesh
trangs gloves
35% fcr spirit on a 45 res sacred rondache
maras
eth treks
natures peace (for Nihlathak runs)
manald (should be a raven frost, i suppose, but I haven't found one since starting back up)
Got one +combat skills gc, and a couple of res alls I've accumulated, but nothing major. I've got a second SR spirit that's not quite as good res-wise, and is only 28% fcr.
Are ubers viable with a last wish PB on switch for the CB and life tap? Will I have to pile on some res all charms to get to a point that I can take out Meph? I'm currently lvl 88 with 3 skill points unspent...should I put'em in salvation and run that with smite in Tris?
shako
enigma DS
arachnid mesh
trangs gloves
35% fcr spirit on a 45 res sacred rondache
maras
eth treks
natures peace (for Nihlathak runs)
manald (should be a raven frost, i suppose, but I haven't found one since starting back up)
Got one +combat skills gc, and a couple of res alls I've accumulated, but nothing major. I've got a second SR spirit that's not quite as good res-wise, and is only 28% fcr.
Are ubers viable with a last wish PB on switch for the CB and life tap? Will I have to pile on some res all charms to get to a point that I can take out Meph? I'm currently lvl 88 with 3 skill points unspent...should I put'em in salvation and run that with smite in Tris?
I finally found a 5 Socket phase blade in The Pit, so I rolled a handmade Grief to use with my new smiter.
The roll was very strange, perfect worst IAS (30%) and perfect best damage (400)...
The guide says that every phase blade gets to the last breakpoint, even with the worst IAS roll on Grief... so I'm fine with IAS even without equipping other IAS items? Can anyone confirm? (fanaticism is maxed)
Now my equip is:
Grief pb
CoH archon
upped um'ed HoZ
um'ed Guillaume
Dracul's
Arachnid
upped Gores
Mara's
2x Ravenfrost (for the huge dex req of pb)
In stash I have other IAS equipment:
Highlord's
Nosferatu
crafted gloves with +20% IAS, +10 % CB, 3% ll, +20 life and +30% fire res
Would the crafted gloves be better than Dracul's? Would a Foritude be better than CoH for the Ubers?
The roll was very strange, perfect worst IAS (30%) and perfect best damage (400)...
The guide says that every phase blade gets to the last breakpoint, even with the worst IAS roll on Grief... so I'm fine with IAS even without equipping other IAS items? Can anyone confirm? (fanaticism is maxed)
Now my equip is:
Grief pb
CoH archon
upped um'ed HoZ
um'ed Guillaume
Dracul's
Arachnid
upped Gores
Mara's
2x Ravenfrost (for the huge dex req of pb)
In stash I have other IAS equipment:
Highlord's
Nosferatu
crafted gloves with +20% IAS, +10 % CB, 3% ll, +20 life and +30% fire res
Would the crafted gloves be better than Dracul's? Would a Foritude be better than CoH for the Ubers?
Yes it is confirmed. Even Lightsabre which only has 20% to attack speed can hit the maximum frame rate.
COH is fine choice since it lets you stack resist easier than say Fort. Arachnid can be replaced with an IK belt for resist (remember you can never run out of resist !) or a godly crafted blood belt. Or just dungos. I am more partial to blood belts though.
They get open wounds, bonus to life and life steal. 10% open wounds will help incredibly well in negating uber life regen. Also it is very possible for the belt to spawn 24 FHR as well as other extra mods that can boost it life bonus to the roof and these hp bonuses can be BOed unlike dungos vit boost.
Mara is quite decent for this build if you are stacking resist but if you are zealing around, use Highlords instead. And draculs are the only option you have here, since you will need life tap to survive.
COH is fine choice since it lets you stack resist easier than say Fort. Arachnid can be replaced with an IK belt for resist (remember you can never run out of resist !) or a godly crafted blood belt. Or just dungos. I am more partial to blood belts though.
They get open wounds, bonus to life and life steal. 10% open wounds will help incredibly well in negating uber life regen. Also it is very possible for the belt to spawn 24 FHR as well as other extra mods that can boost it life bonus to the roof and these hp bonuses can be BOed unlike dungos vit boost.
Mara is quite decent for this build if you are stacking resist but if you are zealing around, use Highlords instead. And draculs are the only option you have here, since you will need life tap to survive.
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OK, so I'm working the STAT POINT numbers here, and adding up what's needed for various breakpoints, etc.
Assume character is level 76 (minimum for Drac's and Wisp) and done Tome & Anya quests
The basic setup:
Strength: Min 130, Max 155
Dexterity: Min 65, Max 95
AllResist: Min: 202, Max 222 (Lightning resist +35 and 10% to max)
IAS: 55 + Fanaticism
Crushing Blow: 50
This is what it looks like:
Strength is already high enough to wear everything*, so never add any points to strength
(* depending on how crummy the torch and anni are, I may have to pre-buff w/ a strength ring to equip HoZ, but after HoZ, everything else *seems* to fit just fine)
Dexterity isn't high enough to equip the Grief Phase Blade, plus I'm gonna need that for blocking anyway
QUESTIONS:
1. Is that resistance enough?
2. Is that IAS enough?
3. Is upping the HoZ worth the extra strength required? The base smite dmg goes up an average of 92% (from 20-28 to 46-46), but the str req is high ... 142. Of course, you have a minimum 130 str with the base build and the lowest possible anni, torch and dracs. So getting to 142 means either Stat-Adding 12 Str points that would otherwise go to Life, or finding anni, torch or dracs that, together, combine for 12 over the minimum (e.g., a 12 Dracs, and the exact-middle torch and anni). Maybe this isn't such a bad idea after all?
4. With that setup, how many dex points do I need to max blocking? (I think I need a total of 131 at level 90 and 140 at level 97. Even if I have a bunch of +skills, I don't think Holy Shield is going much higher than the +35 blocking you get at HS 20, so that's not gonna help. Coincidentally, the dex requirement for the Phase Blade is 136. Depending on the rolls from anni, torch and Ravenfrost, that means a level 97 would need to Stat-Add anywhere from 45 to 75 dex points.) (Any comments on whether these numbers are right?)
Any help at all will be appreciated!
THANKS!
Assume character is level 76 (minimum for Drac's and Wisp) and done Tome & Anya quests
The basic setup:
Strength: Min 130, Max 155
Dexterity: Min 65, Max 95
AllResist: Min: 202, Max 222 (Lightning resist +35 and 10% to max)
IAS: 55 + Fanaticism
Crushing Blow: 50
This is what it looks like:
Strength is already high enough to wear everything*, so never add any points to strength
(* depending on how crummy the torch and anni are, I may have to pre-buff w/ a strength ring to equip HoZ, but after HoZ, everything else *seems* to fit just fine)
Dexterity isn't high enough to equip the Grief Phase Blade, plus I'm gonna need that for blocking anyway
QUESTIONS:
1. Is that resistance enough?
2. Is that IAS enough?
3. Is upping the HoZ worth the extra strength required? The base smite dmg goes up an average of 92% (from 20-28 to 46-46), but the str req is high ... 142. Of course, you have a minimum 130 str with the base build and the lowest possible anni, torch and dracs. So getting to 142 means either Stat-Adding 12 Str points that would otherwise go to Life, or finding anni, torch or dracs that, together, combine for 12 over the minimum (e.g., a 12 Dracs, and the exact-middle torch and anni). Maybe this isn't such a bad idea after all?
4. With that setup, how many dex points do I need to max blocking? (I think I need a total of 131 at level 90 and 140 at level 97. Even if I have a bunch of +skills, I don't think Holy Shield is going much higher than the +35 blocking you get at HS 20, so that's not gonna help. Coincidentally, the dex requirement for the Phase Blade is 136. Depending on the rolls from anni, torch and Ravenfrost, that means a level 97 would need to Stat-Add anywhere from 45 to 75 dex points.) (Any comments on whether these numbers are right?)
Any help at all will be appreciated!
THANKS!
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BAMFSpecialOps
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1. IIRC yes you're resistance should be fine.
2. Maxed Fanat with any roll on a Grief will be enough IAS.
3. Using an elite shield is worth it.
4. Look around the forums, there is a forumla to determine how much Dex you will need for max block.
--Working a torch into your stats might be a little problematic considering you will not be able to pick the newly acquired one up off of the ground.
2. Maxed Fanat with any roll on a Grief will be enough IAS.
3. Using an elite shield is worth it.
4. Look around the forums, there is a forumla to determine how much Dex you will need for max block.
--Working a torch into your stats might be a little problematic considering you will not be able to pick the newly acquired one up off of the ground.
Ouch! I forgot that. Dang. <THINKS SOME MORE> Dang. OK, that changes my str and dex calculations. By 10-20 each. But worse, it wipes me out against Mephisto--because that was also 10-20 resist all.
OK, my new resists are 192 to 202 (depending on Anni). That puts me at the max in Hell, but what happens when Mephisto hits me with lvl20 Conviction? Meph is gonna drop my resists another 125, so except for Lightning, I'll be down to lessee ... 192 -100 for hell and -125 for Meph ... down to -38, or -28 with a perfect Anni. Or am I missing something really basic?
Maybe here's my answer:
So that's the trick. One point in Salvation. The +6 Skills bumps Salvation to 91 All Resist. Add that to the 192/202 and you get 283/293 ... 7 or 17 points shy of max. You can't reach those last few points with more Salvation, so it's time for charms. We don't need lightning--T'Gods and Highlords took care of that. So maybe just three 5 all resist small charms, or one or two pairs of 10 single resist small charms, and boom we're Smokin'.
So I guess I just have to suck it up and put some more Stat points into Str and Dex. Dang
Thanks for the help!
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I guess I'll put this here. My dmg seems low. I'm rocking a typical grief pb and a sanctuary sacred rondache. I'm only hitting in the high 800's with zeal and smite, around 890ish. I have max zeal and 1pt smite. My +skills are only +2 from CoH.. My dmg seems to be low. I solo'd a hell baal just to see how I did, and while it was np, it took a while.. and if hell baal takes a while, i'm sure uber's will take longer. Is it worth switching guillames face for a shako to get the extra +skills? I cant afford a Anni/Ptorch/Maras/Skillers yet.. so... could I still do UT and just go sloooow.. or should I save up for some extra's?
BAMFSpecialOps
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Crushing blow will take huge chunks out of their life, then the +dmg from Grief will wipe out the remaining life. The DMG shown on the character screen is not your real smite output. It's called the LCS, there was just another thread about this.
Still though, I don't seem to be killing quite as fast as I've seen others do it (youtube).. I have 50%CB and a good bit of %OW.. I know the dmg that's shown isn't actual, but still it seems low. I was just trying to get an idea of whether or not I can do UT without much +skills. I have 25%LL in addition to my 5% chance of life tap, so i'm not too worried about staying alive.. it's just that I don't want to take 5 minutes to kill 1 uber...
BAMFSpecialOps
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It will not take that long to kill the ubers. +skills are not a huge benefit to this build.
BAMFSpecialOps
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Congrats on your successful run, good luck on the torches to follow.
Nightvizion
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I haven't read this whole thread, as that would take a lifetime 
. But I was wondering if Fortitude would be sufficient for doing Ubers on my Zealot. If I was lucky and tried I could probably manage to make Chains of Honor, but then it would take a lot longer to get a shield. So would Fortitude be sufficient if I can't afford Chains of Honor?
Also what would the best shield be? Every Zealot I've had in the past has used a HoZ, but I'm not sure if that is the best shield or not.
. But I was wondering if Fortitude would be sufficient for doing Ubers on my Zealot. If I was lucky and tried I could probably manage to make Chains of Honor, but then it would take a lot longer to get a shield. So would Fortitude be sufficient if I can't afford Chains of Honor?Also what would the best shield be? Every Zealot I've had in the past has used a HoZ, but I'm not sure if that is the best shield or not.
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Hoz or Exile in elite shield with resists
BAMFSpecialOps
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Up'd HoZ, Sanctuary, Gris shield, Elite pally shield with base resist stuffed with pdiamonds.
Basically you are wanting an Elite shield with a lot of resist, especially if you are not going to use CoH.
Basically you are wanting an Elite shield with a lot of resist, especially if you are not going to use CoH.
I would highly suggest saving up for a CoH. The only HR you need is a Ber + Ist, which isn't too hard to get these days (I've only been playing casually for a few months and I have 2 CoH!) I rock a CoH, 26@ Metalgrid, and a 68@ Sanctuary (0 base resists on shield). This is plenty to max resists in Hell. Against Uber Meph, not the best setup as my resists are barely in the negative, but still... I solo'd UT yesterday twice in my setup, so it's apparently enough!
Definitely get a high resist shield (40+) and make your RW.. I'd suggest Sanc if you can't get CoH, you're looking at a minimum of 90+ resists up to 100+ with a good roll. If you don't use Exile, make sure to get a Drac's for the lifetap. Even at 5%, you'll proc a lot with Zeal.
Definitely get a high resist shield (40+) and make your RW.. I'd suggest Sanc if you can't get CoH, you're looking at a minimum of 90+ resists up to 100+ with a good roll. If you don't use Exile, make sure to get a Drac's for the lifetap. Even at 5%, you'll proc a lot with Zeal.
