The 1pt smiter guide to Uber Tristram v 1.0.

smitedamage is not important, thats what the 1pt smite guide is all about. You eat hp with CB not with smite damage. the added damage in grief is insane when zealing. much more then last wish.
 
Posted this in its own thread but its not getting much love, anyone here able to help?

This thread appears to be forgotten as well by many veterans. I haven't seen a familiar user posting here in months!
But I'll do my best to answer your questions.

First... you got a bunch of things wrong or misunderstood.

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1. Weapon

Most sites and guides i see say greif. thats fine but i have a few questions regarding that. I know the +x damage on the weapon will not add damage to your smite. Will the +x Enhance damage add damage to your smite.

Instead of using Greif why not use last wish its way better from what i can tell. yes its more expensive but is that the only reason people dont use it.
The +damage from Grief (and Redeemer) DOES ADD damage to Smite. The +x Ench damage from weapon does NOT add damage to smite. This is the main reason why Grief is so much better. I am not a big fan of dupe-words, and last wish is more expensive for that reason. However, technically speaking, Grtief is still better because when the ubers have very low life you will not do as much damage with Last wish as with grief.

The topic Last wish vs Grief has been beaten to death on these forums, and the conclusion is: if you love to see big numbers (with zeal) go with last wish. if you want to kill fast with smite go with Grief.

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2. Armor

Here i have read guides that say fortitude yet i have read other places that the +enhanced damage on fortitude does not add onto the smite damage, is this true. If so is fort still the best armor or is CoH better and why.

The +Ench damage from Forti DOES add to Smite. Forti is more offensive while CoH is more defensive (+65 resist all, 8% phys damage reduction). I am not sure about the +ench damage to demons, but I think it adds to smite.

I would go with CoH if i had the choice.

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3. Gloves

Obviously people use dracs for lift tap but if im going to be using last wish it already has life tap on hit so do i still need these? if not what would be a good alt to them.

If you plan to use Last wish or Exile, it is suggested to use LoH +350 damage to demons.

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4. Boots

Again gore is the way to go but again last wish has a 60-70 CB on it so do you realy need any more then that? or are gore good for other thigs also. what would be a good replacement to this if any.

You also need Open Wounds, other-wise thy will regenerate too fast. And before you ask, PMH was reported not to work.

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5. Helm

Guiliums, people say is good again for CB. if we have last wish AND gore you dont need more CB then that surly so maybe a Kira's for good res and CBF. Whats your thoughts

Agreed! I used Kyra's myself for a while.

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6. Belt

I realy dont see a recomemded belt. some people say Tgods which i dont get. Would dungoes be a good choice for DR? i definitly need help here.

There are quite a few recommended belts:
Tgods (for light absob, +STR, +Vita)
IK belt (light res +STR, +fire res)
String of Ears
Verdungo is good

I personally prefer Tal's belt for the Damage taken goed to mana mod.

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7. Sheild

I have read both Sanctuary and Exile.

With Exile you dont get as much res as Sanc but you get + to skills and you get freazes target which will be nice when im not ubering. you get more life tap which is nice but probly not needed if you have 16 full rejuve

with Sanc you get beter chance to block wich saves you dex with gives you health you also get 20 dex so thats more points into vit and you get a nice 50-70 res, with Kira's thats a fair amount of res you wont have to worry about much.

which is beter here, is there a beter one in your opinion
Exile is nice for Life tap and defense, but that's about it. I'm not sure freeze target works with smite.

If you can get enough resists (200 in Hell) without Sanctuary or 4PD then go with Exile.

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8. Rings

So with Kira's you dont need a Raven frost. I dont realy know what a good buy would be for rings. BK??? the lift steal would be nice when PVM but it woulnt work with smite. Im at a loss here too.

There are quite a few options here. If you use Kyra, probably a gg rare would be the best. Look for resists/life/dex/str/mana leech.
From the uniques:
Dwarf, Wisp, Ravenfrost (for the absobs!)

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9. Ammy

People say Metalgrid and i dont know why. im not well versed in necro curses so do people get it for the changes on the ammy or for the res? if its the res why not Mara's? need help here too.
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Metalgrid > Highlord > Mara

Metalgrid has more resists and +300 - 350 defense
Highlord has deadly strike and light resist
mara is very expensive and less resists (a rare would be much better!), ignore +skills!


Now remember: it's all about balancing your setup. You need to hit the important points:

- CB (min 25%)
- resists (200 in hell)
- Life tap (both wand and proc)
- CBF
- +damage (or elite shield)
- max block (with max Holy shield)
- high life (aim for 1.3k or more)


 
Thanks a bunch Alecz.

I was looking at LOH but was told the + to demons didnt work with smite but if it does thats awsome.

So the + damage on weapons addes smite damage but the +ed on weapons dont. but the +ed on fort does add to smite damage, with that being said you still say CoH?

Edit, read through again and see your point with CoH
 
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assumign max roles greif is 400 damage and last wish is 375 thats not realy much of a diff on zeal damage and you would get all the bonuses from last wish at the same time.

The only downfall i can see about last wish is the cost.

Any thoughts?

I am not sure u read my post. For one thing I don't agree with lithanor.

The +damage from grief is added BEFORE any modifiers! It is like the base weapon damage was whatever it is "in white" + 400.

Then you multiply by your strength, fanaticism bonus, +ench damage from armor. This turns up very high indeed!

Last wish in a berserk axe is: 47.5(avg) * 4.75 = 225 avg damage on weapon
Grief in a PB is: 33(avg) + 400 = 433 avg damage on weapon (not displayed by the game)

Additionally that +400 is added to the BASE shield smite damage to which holy shield bonus is added and then EVERYTHING is multiplied by Str and Fanaticism. This results in HUGE damage for BOTH Zeal and Smite!


 
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Yea i see excatly what your saying i was in the middle of posting when your first reply came in so i didnt see it in time.
 
Kurtal,

Me too i was in the middle of posting when lithanor posted.

Don't forget u need to balance, and make sure the important points are satisfied.
 
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Thanks for all the help. If you could just tell me one last thing.

the +damage to demons on armor might work as you said but does the +damage to demons on the LoH's definitly work with smite or just posibly.

Thanks
 
+ damage to demons is of the same type as the one on the grief, while on the armor is +% enchanced damage. That is why I am not sure. They are different types of mods.

The guide suggests it... so I assume it works for LoH. I haven't used those gloves though. Dracs were always my choice.
 
awsome good to know. yea dracs still seems nice but i will have to see if i can get +200 all res in hell or not so i can get exile for life tap.
 
200 res? It's 300 actually. 75 (max resists) + 100 (penalty in hell) + 125 (Meph's conviction) = 300. You get 30 all res from the Anya quests, so you need another 270 from gear/charms.
 
i'm going to make the one with "Gear for the Middle Class".
I was wondering, could you use Toothrow instead of the presented armor?
 
i'm going to make the one with "Gear for the Middle Class".
I was wondering, could you use Toothrow instead of the presented armor?

You can go with Toothrow if you wish... Gores + Guillaumes give enough CB.
I would be a bit concerned about the resists. You might have to use Salvation for mephisto, and maybe even pre-buff with Treachery.

Then if you use salvation... what wep u intend to use? Remember u need to reach at least the second-last bp for zeal/smite when fighting Meph.


 
I'm a bit confused, but lets assume rich +dmg gear.

I see no +skills, I'm assuming this is relatively unimportant.

Therefor using a calculator with lvl 20 fant and a grief phase blade, I'd need only 15% ias total to reach both the max speed for zeal and smite?

This 15% would have to be socketed in the Guillaume's Face then correct? Because every other socketable slot is a runeword and I'd be receiving no ias from current item mods. Right now I have a Nosferatu for 10%ias but I'd prob swap that out for t-gods later on and not waste the slot because I won't need the ias.
 
With any Grief PB + lv 20 fanat you already reach max speed. You dont need more IAS from gear. Best thing to do with your helmet is to socket it with Um rune for +15 resists.

About +skills, forget it. I used friends pcombs to increase my damage but i didnt help.. little difference. Invest in resist+life.

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what calculator are u using? I found this
http://diablo3.ingame.de/tips/calcs/weaponspeed.php?lang=english

Select Phase Blade as weapon and lv 20 fanat... you will see that max ias is reached.
 
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Can anyone confirm this?

Using a calculator, it told me I needed 15ias.

EDIT: Is it because of the ias roll on the grief? I just realized that the damned calculator only used a phase blade.
 
Yes. If it was just a Phase Blade, you'd need 15% more IAS. But since Grief already comes with IAS on it, you don't need any additional on other gear.
 
I was lucky enough to get my hands on a 20/18/10 Annihilus charm and a 32% Metal Grid.
My resists are looking like this WITHOUT shield(gonna use 102 all res Gris Shield) on Hell:

Lightning: 110
Cold: 134
Fire:93
Poison:10

So with Gris it would be:

212 Light
236 Cold
195 Fire
112 Poison

Just killed the 3 bosses for the organs, was easy enough except for the point that sometimes they take 90% of my life(1292) in 1 hit, so hoping to get CoA for some extra life before doing tristam.
 
I was lucky enough to get my hands on a 20/18/10 Annihilus charm and a 32% Metal Grid.
My resists are looking like this WITHOUT shield(gonna use 102 all res Gris Shield) on Hell:

Lightning: 110
Cold: 134
Fire:93
Poison:10

So with Gris it would be:

212 Light
236 Cold
195 Fire
112 Poison

Just killed the 3 bosses for the organs, was easy enough except for the point that sometimes they take 90% of my life(1292) in 1 hit, so hoping to get CoA for some extra life before doing tristam.

mind postin your gear? having a really hard time even gettin them maxed in hell with griz shield hahaha.



 
I was lucky enough to get my hands on a 20/18/10 Annihilus charm and a 32% Metal Grid.
My resists are looking like this WITHOUT shield(gonna use 102 all res Gris Shield) on Hell:

Lightning: 110
Cold: 134
Fire:93
Poison:10

So with Gris it would be:

212 Light
236 Cold
195 Fire
112 Poison

Just killed the 3 bosses for the organs, was easy enough except for the point that sometimes they take 90% of my life(1292) in 1 hit, so hoping to get CoA for some extra life before doing tristam.

CoA? Did you mean CtA? CTA is definetly a better choice, because it will help you everywhere.


 

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