Smite:::Melee or not?

[xpumafangx]

Kimchi thats good stuff. That is if it is that korean spicy cheese.

Is this really something to argue about? Who cares if someone thinks smite isn't melee? You heard it before, and will continue to hear it no matter what anyone says.

No it is not a important subject but I for one care alot about what the people here belive. So lets just get it right.

 

[Pravda]

No it is not a important subject but I for one care alot about what the people here belive. So lets just get it right.

Most people who play this game won't change their minds even though they're proven wrong. I've seen countless of examples. You can carry on an argument like this forever and it's only going to end up in a flame war. Personally, I couldn't care less whether people here think smite or ww are melee or not. But if it's important to you, go ahead...

 

[Tanatus]

Tough question in sence in D2LoD smite aren't melee attack well it can be consider as a melee attack as much as blessed hammer or fist of heaven

 

[Fonis post mortem]

Tough question in sence in D2LoD smite aren't melee attack well it can be consider as a melee attack as much as blessed hammer or fist of heaven

FoH and BH are spells. Smite is not a spell. Really, I mean, are you guys simply uneducated in vocabulary or is there a deeper problem?...

 

[Tanatus]

FoH and BH are spells. Smite is not a spell. Really, I mean, are you guys simply uneducated in vocabulary or is there a deeper problem?...

All right lets look in semantic deeper ...
Smite use mana to execute attack? BH use mana to execute attack ... both same here
Smite have short range, bless hammer have short range .... both same
Smite ignore target deffence, blessed hammer ignore target deffence ... both same
So since smite is melee then blessed hammer is melee too

 

[jumbo_SHRIMP]

wtf is with you people?

smite is melee sorry folks, there shouldnt really be any debate here...

granted it is a bit cheap etc...but cmon a smiter does like what...2.7k...thats good smite damage right? like top of the line...how much are you psycho zealots doing? 5k...6kmax? zeal also can attack faster...
to me smiting with chance to cast lifetap is pure *** and shouldnt be allowed in any melee duels...if you are a zealot...get some carrion wind rings to cast twister, which will stun faulkers, and go zeal...noone said it was gonna be cheap...but with like 40k ar and 6k damage im sure you can whoop some ***

phelix

 

[HandofElysium]

All right lets look in semantic deeper ...
Smite use mana to execute attack? BH use mana to execute attack ... both same here
Smite have short range, bless hammer have short range .... both same
Smite ignore target deffence, blessed hammer ignore target deffence ... both same
So since smite is melee then blessed hammer is melee too

Please stop while your ahead....or you will just make yourself more of a fool.

 

[Tanatus]

Please stop while your ahead....or you will just make yourself more of a fool.

Want more?
here we go
Smite cannt blocked, bless hammer cannt be blocked ... both same
Smite stun target upon impact, bless hammer shortly stun target upon impact ... both same

 

[HandofElysium]

Want more?
here we go
Smite cannt blocked, bless hammer cannt be blocked ... both same
Smite stun target upon impact, bless hammer shortly stun target upon impact ... both same

Want more what?

I'm not going to even start with you as you started up a campfire already.

I'll let the others play.

 

[pesot]

Bottom line is Smite/WW is melee but they are the 2 most overpowered melee attacks in the game. Anyone who doesn't think it's melee then cry me a river and get a caster. end of rant.

well spoken! :thumbsup: . although, you might want to include rabies in there too. rabies and hunger uses the same animation set, but some people would still say rabies isn't melee. :grrr:

 

[piggiz]

Using shield to attack is melee but you all missed one good point -

Smite is a offensive "skill" to enhance a shield melee attack. So attacking with a shield is considered melee but the skill isnt. Its juz that this skill is superior than other skills used to enhance the melee attack.

So conclusion?

Smite itself is not a melee attack, but it is a skill used on an melee action, in this case swinging of shield, to enhance the attack.

So a smiter is a melee attacker using an offensive skill (smite) superior to others.

"Just as righteousness can give his spirit the fortitude to overcome the attacks of the unjust, so too can faith be a weapon to strike back at those who work to defeat him"

Period.

 

[Fonis post mortem]

All right lets look in semantic deeper ...
Smite use mana to execute attack? BH use mana to execute attack ... both same here
Smite have short range, bless hammer have short range .... both same
Smite ignore target deffence, blessed hammer ignore target deffence ... both same
So since smite is melee then blessed hammer is melee too
Want more?
here we go
Smite cannt blocked, bless hammer cannt be blocked ... both same
Smite stun target upon impact, bless hammer shortly stun target upon impact ... both same

BH doesn't stun, you ******** idiot.
Every skill aside from Sacrifice requires mana.
Short range. GJ, part of a melee definition. (HAND-TO-HAND you simpleton)
It can be blocked, but just not by a shield.
a Barb's Stun also Stuns, does that make it like BH, which doesn't stun? Oh wait, you're wrong. TWICE in the same friggin argument line.

So it ignores defense. It's called a feature.

Are you going to say sacrifice isn't a skill because it doesn't use mana? I mean, seriously. You're stretching.

Okay, let me make this plain and ****ing simple.

Melee is a word. It was a word before Diablo 2 existed (and your petty existence as well).

Melee meant a lot of things. It was primarily a noun, from which the adjective emerged. Melee means/meant a chaotic hand-to-hand battle.

To explain this further, this does not mean they were holding hands.

That means they were using stuff IN THEIR HANDS to hit other people WHILE HOLDING ON TO THE WEAPON/OBJECT.

As it was HAND-TO-HAND, they were not projectiles. Thus, melee became an adjective for a weapon that was used in hand-to-hand combat.

ANYTHING held in someone's hand (or when using the feet like by kicking) WHILE the opponent is engaged constitutes as melee.

Blessed hammer is a spell. You cast it, a swirly MAGICAL thing flies away from you. Not only is it a spell, but it is a projectile spell. Much like FOH. Aside from being on the same skill tree, they have NOTHING in common with Smite.

I have no idea why this works me up, but I think it's because it amazes me that retards like you found out how to turn the computer on and figured out how to manipulate a keyboard to infect others with your minldess drivel.

Go suck on a bottle of drano.

 

[Tanatus]

Fonis post mortem lets see sweety ...
a) dont do personal attack its bannable offense altouth we dont have moderation on this forum this dont mean that some f..king idiot should bark on everyone like been screwed in and out
b) BH and FOH do stun albeit for short period of time otherwise you'd no need in recovery
c) I just shown that smite and bh have much more similarity then smite and ANY melee skills - thus you should accept either thing
if smite is melee attack then blessed hammer is melee attack too
if you insist that blessed hammer not melee attack then smite not melee either

 

[TheQuestionForumMan]

Using shield to attack is melee but you all missed one good point -

Smite is a offensive "skill" to enhance a shield melee attack. So attacking with a shield is considered melee but the skill isnt. Its juz that this skill is superior than other skills used to enhance the melee attack.

So conclusion?

Smite itself is not a melee attack, but it is a skill used on an melee action, in this case swinging of shield, to enhance the attack.

So a smiter is a melee attacker using an offensive skill (smite) superior to others.

"Just as righteousness can give his spirit the fortitude to overcome the attacks of the unjust, so too can faith be a weapon to strike back at those who work to defeat him"

Period.

Conferming Piggiz reply
Some consider smite as melee because of the action and some retards considered smite as caster/spells non melee attacks because it lacks ar..

but blizzard said it "Just as righteousness can give his spirit the fortitude to overcome the attacks of the unjust, so too can faith be a weapon to strike back at those who work to defeat him" in short SMITE IS MELEE
smite is melee because shield is a weapon and it is used to STRIKE back the enemies as a weapon. same thing when i bash u with a trashcan lid on ur head eh?

i know why retards doesnt accept smite as melee because they lost to smiter
and they are pissed...it just pissed me off when ppl say smite is cheap not melee...i say use it to ur tactical advantage

ok to make things simple LETS SAY SMITE IS HALF MELEE AND HALF CAST/SPELLS
smite action is bashing with a weapon/shield which is melee? and lacking of ar and itd always hit properties of smite is casting... i guess im casting spells of smite on u

in conclusion Smite has both properties of melee and caster/spells
smite is not PURE melee and smite is not PURE cast/spells so its half meleecaster
HOPE THIS ENDS DEBATE

 

[pesot]

Using shield to attack is melee but you all missed one good point -

Smite is a offensive "skill" to enhance a shield melee attack. So attacking with a shield is considered melee but the skill isnt. Its juz that this skill is superior than other skills used to enhance the melee attack.

So conclusion?

Smite itself is not a melee attack, but it is a skill used on an melee action, in this case swinging of shield, to enhance the attack.

So a smiter is a melee attacker using an offensive skill (smite) superior to others.

wow! so using a melee attack that's superior to others is not melee, excellent deduction! :grrr:

honestly, can't you guys just except the fact that this game has a story line behind it. every char class has a history. some attacks are just meant to be superior. stop being a sore looser.

 

[Fonis post mortem]

Fonis post mortem lets see sweety ...
a) dont do personal attack its bannable offense altouth we dont have moderation on this forum this dont mean that some f..king idiot should bark on everyone like been screwed in and out

The reason I do that is because I get carried away. I'm not about to apologize for it.

b) BH and FOH do stun albeit for short period of time otherwise you'd no need in recovery

You're talking about hit recovery. Every attack can do that. Zeal can do that. Beserk can do that. Any. attack. You hit them for more than or = to 1/12 of their max HP, they go into hit recovery. It just happens to be that BH is very high in damage and does it a lot. Smite someone with a lvl 1 smite and a buckler. Bet they don't go into hit recovery. Maybe get KB'd, but not recovery. They'll get swirlies. That means that any attack OTHER THAN SMITE done while in that mode will bypass the 1/12 max Hp check and put them into recovery.

c) I just shown that smite and bh have much more similarity then smite and ANY melee skills - thus you should accept either thing
if smite is melee attack then blessed hammer is melee attack too
if you insist that blessed hammer not melee attack then smite not melee either

Sorry, just proved you wrong. K thx.

 

[ROMVS]

Fonis post mortem lets see sweety ...
a) dont do personal attack its bannable offense altouth we dont have moderation on this forum this dont mean that some f..king idiot should bark on everyone like been screwed in and out
b) BH and FOH do stun albeit for short period of time otherwise you'd no need in recovery
c) I just shown that smite and bh have much more similarity then smite and ANY melee skills - thus you should accept either thing
if smite is melee attack then blessed hammer is melee attack too
if you insist that blessed hammer not melee attack then smite not melee either

Just in case someone forgot to read the definition, melee is:

me·lee ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ml, m-l) also mê·lée (m-l)
n.

Confused, hand-to-hand fighting in a pitched battle.
A violent free-for-all. See Synonyms at brawl.
A confused tumultuous mingling, as of a crowd: the rush-hour melee.


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[French mêlée, from Old French meslee, past participle of mesler, to mix. See meddle.]

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melee

Mel'ee \M[^e]`l['e]e"\ (m[asl]`l[asl]"), n. [F., fr. m[^e]ler to mix. See Meddle, Mell, and cf. Mellay.] A fight in which the combatants are mingled in one confused mass; a hand to hand conflict; an affray.


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Definitions of Melee on the Web:

Combat at short range, such as hand-to-hand combat following a charge, is often known as Melee Combat or, simple, a Melee. Pronounced may-lay, NOT mee-lay. Weapons used at short range, such as swords or axes, are sometimes known as Melee Weapons.

OR

Any character who uses a hand-to-hand weapon as a means of fighting other monsters or players.

Last two definitions were found through google search with the following keywords: melee definition.

I'll research the french version if someone still can't understand the above definitions. :scratch: :howdy: :thumbsup:

 

[jumbo_SHRIMP]

SMITE IS MELEE, END OF STORY. ADMINS PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD

phelix

 

[Stoutwood]

SMITE IS MELEE, END OF STORY. ADMINS PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD

phelix

Took the words right out of my mouth. I don't know if I just enjoy seeing people try to change the meaning of a word to fit their perception of a game or if this is just some sort of repressed masochistic desire, but I keep coming back to read this thread. All I know is that I keep losing IQ points every time I read this. I think my IQ is around room temperature by now...my head hurts. Soon I will lose all spelling and grammar skills and all of my sentences will consist of acronyms and letters mixed with numbers. I'm sure my vocabulary will be limited to basic profanity as well.

 

[Module88]

All right lets look in semantic deeper ...
Smite use mana to execute attack? BH use mana to execute attack ... both same here
Smite have short range, bless hammer have short range .... both same
Smite ignore target deffence, blessed hammer ignore target deffence ... both same
So since smite is melee then blessed hammer is melee too

I was really going to stay out of it, but what you said just, ugh.

Every attack but sacrifice uses mana. Both the same.

Blessed hammer can hit you while you are at the top of the screen. One screen hit range is NOT short range.

Doesn't charged strike ITD?


Your logic and reasoning is pathetic. With that logic, I could say a certain rock and a certain tree have the same colors, are about the same size, and have the same texture, and they are the same. A rock and a tree are NOT the same, EVEN though they may have similarities. And the similarities you gave are crap. Mana? So that means almost every attack is like BH because it requires mana? Uh, no.

As for smite having more similarities to BH... Melee attacks except sacrifice require mana. Does this mean sacrifice is not melee because it has a difference? Melee attacks, including smite, hit you between the 1-5 range. Melee attacks, like smite, require you to move toward your target when you click it if you are far away. Melee attacks, like smite, can get you stunned. Melee attacks, like smite, require IAS. Melee attacks, like smite, require a certain weapon to get you a certain range of damage. Please. Stop arguing with such pitiful logic. It makes you sound like an idiot when you make similarities between two things and call them the same thing. Refer to my rock example.