Runeword Extravaganza - 2.0

[D2DC]

Ok, I've been sitting on a bunch of HRs for a while. A couple of trades over on the SPTF, and I am getting close to not having the runes available for what I planned to make. So, time to get this show on the road! Looking for some advice/input, and possibly needing to trade for some bases, before I start the actual rolling.

1. Cham - 3x
I've been sitting on these, as I haven't been able to make up my mind between cubing up a Zod for BotD, or making the 3x Cham RWs. Even though I'd probably make a sept out of BotD, I think the others would be much more fun. However, I don't really know what to make them in:

Doom - (5 Socket Axes/Polearms/Hammers) despite the ctc Volcano, I don't have any plans to make use of this in my ctc Sept. I'm leaning towards a free HF merc stick?
Hand of Justice - (4 Socket Weapons) You can just use dual 'Phoenix' for better -EFR% on casters.. Maybe use the free Holy Fire, and pair it with a Dragonscale on a Paladin?
Pride - (4 Socket Polearms) Almost certainly going with an eth merc stick here.

2. Jah - 5x
I have a Rogue 'Faith', a 'Phoenix' from @hackedagainanda, and made an 'Ice' GMB already. So, I plan to just burn the rest of these on my CtC sept:

Brand - (4 Socket Missile Weapons) is gonna be my ctc Necro choice. Haven't decided if he will be a bear Necro or not, but either way Demon Xbow seems like the best choice?
Destruction - (5 Socket Polearms/Swords) the plan is to use this on a Zealot even though he can't synergize any of the procs. It would make another fancy merc stick, but I don't think any of these can compete with 'Pride'. So, with no IAS, probably a PB?
Dream 2x - (3 Socket Helms/Shields) may or may not be used in the ctc sept. But, I gotta try these out on a Sorc and Tesladin. Was leaning toward a Diadem/Hyperion, just for the looks.
Phoenix - (4 Socket Weapons/Shields) has to be a 1H, as I plan to make a dual Phoenix Druid. No IAS here either, so I would assume a PB again? or should I just go with a low req 4os, and use it for casters?

3. Lo - 5x
After 'Brand', 'Destruction' and 'Phoenix', I should be left with 2x Lo. Those are for a Dual 'Dragon' Sorc. Was planning on making her a throw sorc with Gimmershred, but maybe she'll want to make use of the 'Hand of Justice'?

4. Beta Bramble & CtA
This should be some fun rolling.. Now that I've got the Lo necessary, I am going to start doing some HF rushing to cube up however many Ohm I need.

Completed Runewords:

Dragon - Dusk Shroud
BotD - Ethereal Superior (+13%) Great Poleaxe
Pride - Ethereal Great Poleaxe
Dream - Diadem
Dream - Superior (+15%) Hyperion
Death - Ethereal Superior (+15%) Decapitator
Duress - Ethereal Dusk Shroud
Gloom - Ethereal Dusk Shroud
Beta Bramble - Superior (+15%) Wire Fleece
Beta Bramble - Superior (+15%) Wire Fleece

 

[Excalibur]

Keep them. You may need to trade them for torches and Annies once D2R launches.

 

[D2DC]

Keep them. You may need to trade them for torches and Annies once D2R launches.

D2R may be a bit down the road for me. We'll see.

 

[maxicek]

BoTD Colossus Blade is probably my most used high end RW, outside Infinity & Enigma.

If you are going the Holy Fire route you probably want to go for 3 items. 2 items doesn’t add much, I discussed it in detail here:

Seven More Swords

The_Nazgul Frodo was hardly less terrified than his companions; he was quaking as if he was bitter cold, but his terror was swallowed up in a sudden temptation to put on the Ring. The desire to do this laid hold of him, and he could think of nothing else. He did not forget the Barrow, nor the...

www.purediablo.com

 

[ziambe]

Id vote for option 2 but i also havent used my zods yet cause i dedicate so much time to finding the perfect bases. If i had already made my ebotd, i might feel differently...

What I can say is:

• pride merc is a wonderful addition to a faith strafer...!
• I cant think of many uses for doom outside of a gpa for fury wolf, even then i think grief might be stronger?
• I will definetly make a HOJ for some novelty builds if i find another cham. I like this option because so many builds can take advantage of the dragon/hoj combo - moreso than the doom i think...

 

[D2DC]

Hmm.. I appreciate the feedback. Maybe I should just go with Pride/BotD first since Doom/HoJ are more of the novelty variety.

 

[maxicek]

I wouldn't go for Doom in a Merc Weapon. I don't see any case where I would rather have Holy Freeze over Conviction or Decrepify from Reapers.

If it was me, I would go eBoTD and 2x Dream.

 

[ffs]

I wouldn't go for Doom in a Merc Weapon. I don't see any case where I would rather have Holy Freeze over Conviction or Decrepify from Reapers.

If it was me, I would go eBoTD and 2x Dream.

+1

Farming & cookie cutter builds aside, these are the runewords I’ve had the most fun with in D2.

 

[D2DC]

Thanks guys. The one downside of BotD for me is that I would have to cube up.. Finding/trading for a zod would be ::cough:: much simpler.

I may just roll a 'Pride' and all the Jah RWs and just sit on the remaining Chams for now. At the rate I'm playing D2 these days, it'll be 5+ years before I get around to using all these anyway..

 

[D2DC]

Adding the Beta RWs to my roll list as well. I'd like to roll 3 or 4 CtAs.. eventually. Before I go and lose my War Scepter rack, I'd like to see how many "CtA worthy" ones I've got at the ready:

Spoiler: All (+2/+3 HS, +XX)

Superior War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 18
Durability: 47 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x69643e4c
+8% Enhanced Damage
+2 to Attack Rating
+1 to Holy Freeze (Paladin Only)
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

Superior War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 62 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x57557f06
+3 to Attack Rating
+1 to Meditation (Paladin Only)
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 51 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 30
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x132ef163
+2 to Redemption (Paladin Only)
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 67 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 30
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x19022466
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+2 to Redemption (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 15 to 37
Durability: 36 of 36
Required Strength: 45
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x7dff8959
+3 to Concentration (Paladin Only)
+2 to Holy Shock (Paladin Only)
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead
Ethereal (Cannot be Repaired)

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 41 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 30
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x206d1e6a
+3 to Conviction (Paladin Only)
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+1 to Fist of the Heavens (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 63 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x26c74c7d
+1 to Sanctuary (Paladin Only)
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+3 to Vengeance (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 48 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x428b90d7
+2 to Vigor (Paladin Only)
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+1 to Vengeance (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 44 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x1e947fc8
+2 to Vengeance (Paladin Only)
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 68 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x25108763
+1 to Conversion (Paladin Only)
+3 to Holy Shock (Paladin Only)
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 59 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 30
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x1c0ef0c4
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+1 to Redemption (Paladin Only)
+1 to Charge (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 38 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x12992cf9
+3 to Conversion (Paladin Only)
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 41 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 30
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x3ae4146
+1 to Holy Shock (Paladin Only)
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+1 to Fist of the Heavens (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 59 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x6c032078
+2 to Holy Shock (Paladin Only)
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 36 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 30
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x407867a
+3 to Fist of the Heavens (Paladin Only)
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+1 to Salvation (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 68 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x3b317cf5
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+2 to Meditation (Paladin Only)
+1 to Holy Shock (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead
Socketed (5: 0 used)

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 38 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x1f3a5742
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+2 to Sanctuary (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 67 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x37fb5daa
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+1 to Meditation (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 45 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x5d324e8e
+1 to Sanctuary (Paladin Only)
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 43 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 30
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x494cb547
+1 to Salvation (Paladin Only)
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+1 to Conversion (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 49 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x5f115136
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+1 to Conversion (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead
Socketed (5: 0 used)

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 63 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 30
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x2642a1d4
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+3 to Conviction (Paladin Only)
+1 to Salvation (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 42 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x48cbfe49
+1 to Sanctuary (Paladin Only)
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 61 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x4430406
+1 to Zeal (Paladin Only)
+1 to Meditation (Paladin Only)
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 42 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x201498d1
+2 to Meditation (Paladin Only)
+1 to Holy Shock (Paladin Only)
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 58 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x991773e
+1 to Meditation (Paladin Only)
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+3 to Vigor (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 37 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 30
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x648c5a8d
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+1 to Redemption (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 37 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0xbdd0aaa
+1 to Meditation (Paladin Only)
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+3 to Blessed Hammer (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 41 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x61ff663a
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+1 to Sanctuary (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 68 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 24
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x75c75fb5
+3 to Charge (Paladin Only)
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+1 to Sanctuary (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 64 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 30
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x57601c4b
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+1 to Redemption (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

Here is probably my current Top 4:

Fingerprint: 0x648c5a8d
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+1 to Redemption (Paladin Only)

Fingerprint: 0x132ef163
+2 to Redemption (Paladin Only)
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)

Fingerprint: 0x19022466
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+2 to Redemption (Paladin Only)

Fingerprint: 0x991773e
+1 to Meditation (Paladin Only)
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+3 to Vigor (Paladin Only)

There is also this one. I've found that +3 Redemption looks more rare than +3 HS:

War Scepter
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 17
Durability: 51 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 30
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x368d99a
+1 to Holy Shock (Paladin Only)
+3 to Redemption (Paladin Only)
+1 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead

 

[saracen85]

TBH the +3HS/+1Redemption alone is worth multiple rerolls if necessary.

Unless you're patient enough for a +1Vigor on top of those two as well.

 

[D2DC]

I've got the patience, on just not sure if I have enough time remaining on this planet!

I am kinda glad that I haven't found some insane base, where I would feel compelled to re-roll and re-roll.

 

[D2DC]

Now that I'm thinking about it.. maybe I should be taking a closer look at some of the +1 HS. Even assuming NO other +skills gear, you're pretty easily looking at a lvl 6 Holy Shield:

+1 Automod
+2 All Skills
+1 All Skills (from Battle Command)
+2 'Spirit'

At this point, you're only gaining 1% chance to block per additional level. You do get +25 sec/level, but at lvl 7 duration is already 3 mins. The defense continues to increase linearly at +15%, however I can certainly make due without some extra def.

Redemption has more consistent returns as you increase in level. +5 HP/Mana recovered per level, and (up to lvl 16) an additional +2% chance to redeem per level. My only experience with Redemption is on my Fissure Druid running cows, and it's pretty much insta-refill when equipped. I suppose with fewer corpses around, and having to wep switch, the extra +% chance and +HP/Mana would be nice.

All of this is assuming NO +skills gear. Almost certainly, most chars will have a Shako, 'Enigma', Maras/HLW etc. Now, we are looking at Torch/Anni in D2R.. So, a more accurate "baseline" would be like +14 skills:

+1 Automod
+2 All Skills
+1 All Skills (from Battle Command)
+2 'Spirit'
+2 Shako
+2 'Enigma'
+1 Anni
+3 Torch

My point with all this is that, quantity over quality of automods should be prioritized. Something like +X HS, +X Redemption, +X Vigor/Charge/Cleansing would be ideal.

Edit: like this..

Fingerprint: 0x1c0ef0c4
+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+1 to Redemption (Paladin Only)
+1 to Charge (Paladin Only)

Edit2: since we're talking about Pally, might as well thanks the extra +2 Combat Skills on HoZ..

 

[ziambe]

quantity over quality of automods

Erm, dont you mean quality over quantity?

Otherwise just go for whatever 3/3/3 or 3/3/2 you can find ^.^ ...you do have a point with the + skills; with the addition of torch and anni, most chars will be hitting the diminishing returns hard on most primary skills. So it might be wise to look for skills where you have invested little to no hard points in order to benefit the most from the + skills on gear and reduce the diminishing returns.

As for me, i just can't say no to the style points of the nowadays-uber-rare +hs scepter

 

[D2DC]

Erm, dont you mean quality over quantity?

What I meant to say was: we should pursue quantity of quality automods, ie 3x good mods. The quantity of skills on those quality automods doesn't really matter..

Glad to clear up the confusion.

I'm guessing the odds on a 3 HS/3 Redemption/3 XX are worse than those 6/40 javs.. So, I'm not holding my breath on those.

 

[d2lover]

Redemption is rarer because it's a lvl 30 skill

is anni/torch guaranteed? (in d2r)

 

[D2DC]

Redemption is rarer because it's a lvl 30 skill

is anni/torch guaranteed? (in d2r)

Yea, there are also a LOT of hoops to jump through..
- non magic, rare, S/U
- non ethereal
- 0/5os
- 3x staff mods
- odds of each particular skill
- +3 roll for each one..

 

[d2lover]

why nonethereal tho?

to not confuse the slot?

 

[D2DC]

Might as well get this one made. Nice to get the perfect low roll! Gonna make use of it for Girls Night Out MP group in addition to CtC sept.

 

[D2DC]

I might as well get Pride out of the way also. If I'm reading this correctly, GPA will prolly be the best base?