Road to Items Wealth?

Interesting suggestion to never play in public games... does that mean you always play in a one-player passworded game? Or is there a good way to get together with parties?

"Back in the day" there were frequently-used chat channels where you could always find a good group of folks to do an end-to-end level, or cow games or other whatevers. Now the official chat channels seem to filled with spammers and I haven't found the old player-created channels in much use at all.

The Diabloii.Net Community has a Forum for players to get together, but I'm not sure how well that works... anyone else have success with that?

Any other suggestions for getting together with players?

I've heard ROC is pretty active on USWest... (I've even heard a bunch of USEasters headed West at this reset, just so they could play in an ROC clan.) Does that seem to work?
 
vrot said:
I had the same problem. Then I realised it was down to unrealistic expectations. I don't play this game to sit on trade forums and I suspect you don't either. I play this game to play this game. Stop doing boring runs over and over, just play for fun and don't take what you read on these forums too seriously. Even if you trade legit like these people suggest, where do you think the items come from. Are the people who are suggesting you become a "Trader" in stead of a "game player" finding the items themselves? I doubt it. These items just pop into existence somehow and you know what that means. So even trading is not actually legit. It's easy to have a good hell capable character if you have a few characters and swop items between them. By all means trade but don't make work of it.
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Word man. That's why I go with pgems, far and away the fastest way to getting decent stuff to trade.
 
ChthonVII said:
4) keys/organs/torches. Considering the odds on key drops, nobody should be paying ANYTHING for them, but bnet is FULL of trade games with keys going for 1-2 hr, and organs going for more. I wouldn't suggest trading torches on bnet, but if you can take uber-meph, you can get rich on the trading forums here with them.
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Keys are worth something? I never see these trades going on in my realm (USEast SCL).
 
Keys are worth something? I never see these trades going on in my realm (USEast SCL).
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Since this Ladder season is still in its infancy, not a lot of people have characters strong enough to take on the Ubers just yet, so most people don't bother with getting Keys and Organs right now.
 
Speaking of "back in the day" and gambling ... the richest I ever got was back in those Classic days when there were only three unique rings and you could gamble with decent odds.

I actually collected more than 80 SOJs - all legit that way - and I had a blast doing it. Massive runs killing everything I could find(!); picking up armors and selling like crazy 'til my 90-lvl character was max gold; then dropping the gold in a passworded game and bringing in a low-level char to gamble solid for half an hour or so (higher lvl characters didn't get as many rings in the trade window). By making sure the low-lvl char was wearing the two "starter" unique rings, I'd usually get an SOJ for about 2.5 million in gold.

Great fun - mad killing, mad selling, and then collect the SOJ reward for all that massive mayhem :-)

By the way, I loved rushing other people. The drops weren't that important, but I lusted for the gold - which no one else wanted. People being rushed would help me collect and sell - worked great for everyone.

Sadly, it was just about then that the dupers went crazy. 80 SOJs? Oh yeah, the dupers thought that was pocket change, and the legit players never believed it. So I just had fun and played for my own enjoyment. Sadly, when Blizz switched the rules on gambling, it wiped out an entire segment of the Blizz culture. I mean now it's either PvM, PvP or magic find. When was the last time you met someone who spends most of their time gambling? (When was the last time you saw anyone gamble at all?)

I guess re-rolling charms, jewels and crafting is the new version of gambling.

Rolling for skillers :-)
 
Once again...

Blizz Sorc to farm nightmare meph

Use/trade for items such as upgraded WWS or windforce and build a strafe/fury zon hybrid for hell pits ONLY. Run that place with minimal magic find and keep every elite socketed item you find (unless 1-2 sockets obviously due to no runewords available).

I did this in season one and season two and became "rich" in trade bait rapidly.

Yes this is damn faster (especially as the season progresses when unique/set prices become 99% worthless) than doing meph runs 3471934174 times.
 
DarkStooge said:
lol u will NEVER EVER get rich from mf runs


to get rich u need to know how to buy low and sell high, yes it means ripping some off, but the rewards... :thumbsup:


its a lot harder than if u deal in dupes
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ur totally wrong.

U mf to get some basic gears and if u find a good item then u can sell high. THEN u buy off someone's items for a cheap deal, and re-sell for profit.

In ladder, there arent many hi runes as in non-ladder. (dupe) So if u do countess run or forge and got urself an ist, then u become rich instantly.

Same thing as u do nm andriel for sojs.

but yah...most of time u get wealthy by trading, not mfing. Mfing is just a first step to become rich.
 
There are few tips to get involved to d2 economy:

1.get some basic gears for general mfing. (assume u have no gear whatsoever, u can get some items for free, or trade) This occurs every ladder season reset.

2.start mfing for bit, u can find some standard gears that u can use. Trade the low lvl items for pgems, keep some high end items if u find it. This process will probably take a few months, or u can just keep on going if u love mfing.

3.once u have enough pgems/low runes, (craftable) junk jewels, charms, or gold. Trade them in bulk for currency (runes/sojs) on trade forum, there are ppl who always seek after these stuffs. Soon, u will get urself a few runes and ur ready to step into the way to d2 wealth.

4.now u got urself a few runes to buy the items that are popular in d2 realm. Look for the one that u think is cheap (or probably a steal from noobs) according to the trade value, then put that item on trade forum re-sell to another person. If that item is highly demanded, ppl will bid on it and thus make its price goes even higher.

5.continue doing this soon u will have enough wealth to afford more expensive gears, and re-sell to another person for higher profit. If u want to go even further, spare some of ur wealth to re-buy pgems/low runes that are craftable. Yes, it's like gambling. But if u get lucky and craft out a really nice item, u will become rich instantly without a doubt.

6.in d2 nowaday, since most unqiue items u find becomes worthless, (like wf or shako) u might as well stick with currency rather than finding those stuffs. But still, some popular uniques like death cleaver or tyrael's might can go for quite a bid. But generally, trade items for currency unless u really need that item. Because u can always get a cheaper deal from other people for the same item by paying currency.
 
hmm, i don't trade, so i will never become "rich".

i remember a cow-game in my first round on b-net in 1.09, i was still standing and killing hell-cows with my riphook while all those burizons, wf-amas and whatever left, because something went very wrong...
so... who cares about "richness"?
in a couple of weeks i will have a dozen builds in the late 70s to early 90s and some of them will be good enough to (almost) solo hell. i will have enough good gear (in terms of play-value, not trade value) to have the feeling, that i 've accomplished something. i might never possess an enigma or something comparable, but with über-gear every idiot can beat the game and where's the fun if not on the hard way?

(i know, too many words, too many beers...)
 
The way I got rich is through a two part system

Pgems
1. my first char a mf hammerdin (no you dont need good items to mf with a hammerdin) runs meph and collects the unique/set items.

2. make a post on the trade forum here selling the unique items for perfect gems

3. hord the gems and trade in bulk, you would be suprised the runes/items people will trade for large ammounts of gems

Socketables
1. second char I make is usually a javazon, they are a little more item dependent buts that not a problem b/c the hammerdin can find some decent items

2. Join public hell baal games with wirts leg and a tome ready. go to a corner of town or the bridge and open the cow portal

3. Slaughter the cows and pick up all the charms and flawless gems.

4. Also be on the look out for 4os Grand Matron bows, socketed archon plates, eth pally shields, Eth elite armors, and white/4os Monarchs. People will pay big for some of these items, and with the others you can make your own runewords
 
As Jerametrius just mentioned, a javazon in cows can easily find socketed items that are pretty decent. Max LF + a high valk is all you need. Also don't forget non-socketed items to socket using the recipes (especially monarchs and +3 bows). After I got sick of Meph, Shenk, Eldrich, Pindle runs and then Pit runs, this is what I did.

I couldn't stand rerolling grand charms. Too many duds. But cows are a good place to grab gems for it.

The only way to get really super godly rich, however, is to bot or dupe. It sucks, yeah, but it's the truth. Especially if you have 4 computers going at the same time. Or Ebay.
 
Hey great advice all! I didn't start this thread but i definately needed it. I got in on the last ladder three months before the reset and drove myself crazy trying to obtain all the uber items. I did what some suggested and got myself rushed, went crazy harvesting socketables and trading like no tomorrow. In the end i was miserable because i spent all my time in trade channels or in the trade forumns desperately trying to gain everything i ever wanted.

Perfect gems are definately the way to go. After reading all these helpful posts i now know what to do with all that gold i collect from my flawless gem harvesting. I will also start crafting again, since i have a ton of the runes needed to do this because they drop everywhere. That said, i'm off to do just that and thanks again for all the great advice guys. My ladder three blues are cured! :clap:
 
Bigrob: yes i understand that you have to start with mf'ing, but i meant just mf'ing wont get u rich, if u just mf for hours and hours on end, dont kid urself by thinking "im going to get rich from this"

EVEN IF you find like a perfect legit coa...which is VERY UNLIKELY, while thats still a substantial amount to trade off, thats not enough to make u rich, and you probably will never find something that good again
 
I was reading this and its quite interesting stuff but i was wondering.

Which low level runes are worth alot when having a horde of?

Which items are worth crafting or specifically which crafted items are worth alot?

Do i trade by specifically going through trade games for half an hour or by putting my stuff in my diablo 2 profile( the one that comes up when you right click your char in the chat realm ) and hope that someone seas it or do i continuously go through the chats telling everyone what stuff i have?

Hope that made sense
 
Hans_Superman said:
Which low level runes are worth alot when having a horde of?
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probably none, but you might still get something for mid-level runes as amn and sol as they are used in many popular low-level runewords. it will get you more if you gather the items and make the runewords yourself (spirit-monarch, insight in elite polearm,...)

Hans_Superman said:
Which items are worth crafting or specifically which crafted items are worth alot?
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good crafter-amus (with +skill and ress) and maybe hitpowergloves with +passive ama-skills.

Hans_Superman said:
Do i trade by specifically going through trade games for half an hour or by putting my stuff in my diablo 2 profile( the one that comes up when you right click your char in the chat realm ) and hope that someone seas it or do i continuously go through the chats telling everyone what stuff i have?
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for single items you might want to open a trade game. but it might be better to use the trade-forum here. or keep an eye on the chat, people often ask for specific things.
 
DarkStooge said:
Bigrob: yes i understand that you have to start with mf'ing, but i meant just mf'ing wont get u rich, if u just mf for hours and hours on end, dont kid urself by thinking "im going to get rich from this"

EVEN IF you find like a perfect legit coa...which is VERY UNLIKELY, while thats still a substantial amount to trade off, thats not enough to make u rich, and you probably will never find something that good again
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Well in ladder, if u mf quick enough, u will become wealthy cuz ppl unlikely will have the items since ladder just start a few weeks ago. Like shako or skullder those kinda mfing items will be worth quite a bit.

That's why im saying that in non-ladder d2 economy is runied. :o The only way u to become rich is to trade now, mf is pointless in non-ladder.

Hey, i've found a perfert steelrend before, which goes for like 50+runes. :p
 
So when you do cow runs, do you play with others or lock 'em out?

I'm always worried some dweeb is gonna kill the king and that character is then really limited...

So one person cows? or 8 person and just take the chance?

anyone use clans or some kind of common chat channels to find games with people who understand about not killing the king?
 
bthere said:
OK, I've been playing D2 for years - bunch of chars up in the 90s, took one all the way to 99 just to see if I could - but I've never seen an IST or SOJ drop even once. No windforce, not even an eagle. But somehow, the ladder's already *filled* with CTAs, HOTOs and Enigmas! Obviously, I'm doing something wrong.
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How often do you view drops with Alt, or whatever you have it assigned to?
 
How often do you view drops with Alt, or whatever you have it assigned to?
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I instinctively press the Alt key right after I kill a group of monsters.
 
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