Road to Items Wealth?

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bthere

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Road to Items Wealth?

OK, I've been playing D2 for years - bunch of chars up in the 90s, took one all the way to 99 just to see if I could - but I've never seen an IST or SOJ drop even once. No windforce, not even an eagle. But somehow, the ladder's already *filled* with CTAs, HOTOs and Enigmas! Obviously, I'm doing something wrong.

I don't bot, I don't use MH, and duping is entirely on the NOT list. I *do* those endless mind-numbing Meph runs, Pit runs and Cows, but I'm not willing to pay cash money to buy stuff on eBay. And maybe it's just me, but when I try to do runs with 8 players, someone is always there with some PICKIT program or something... Yeesh.

Does a legit player have any chance at all to move up to the big leagues?

Forge runs? Meph-pits? Clans? Do I have to play 60 hours a week?

What's your legit-player strategy for getting big league stuff?
 
I *do* those endless mind-numbing Meph runs, Pit runs and Cows,

Does a legit player have any chance at all to move up to the big leagues?
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lol u will NEVER EVER get rich from mf runs


to get rich u need to know how to buy low and sell high, yes it means ripping some off, but the rewards... :thumbsup:

Does a legit player have any chance at all to move up to the big leagues?
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its a lot harder than if u deal in dupes
 
bthere said:
But somehow, the ladder's already *filled* with CTAs, HOTOs and Enigmas!
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what realm are you on? on west ladder, the ladder is definitely not *filled* with high end runewords. i did see someone who made a HOTO (not that hard with hellforges), and one CTA (someone's gotta get lucky), but by browsing through the trade posts you can see that most people are looking for oculcu/shako/chancies etc etc. there was that thread on the ebay sale of hundreds of high runes and runewords etc etc, but that was most probably a scam.
 
lonnie913 said:
there was that thread on the ebay sale of hundreds of high runes and runewords etc etc, but that was most probably a scam.
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it wasnt, he was receiving positive feedback from sales, and my friend bought 20 ladder ists to resell from him
 
bthere said:
OK, I've been playing D2 for years - bunch of chars up in the 90s, took one all the way to 99 just to see if I could - but I've never seen an IST or SOJ drop even once. No windforce, not even an eagle. But somehow, the ladder's already *filled* with CTAs, HOTOs and Enigmas! Obviously, I'm doing something wrong.

I don't bot, I don't use MH, and duping is entirely on the NOT list. I *do* those endless mind-numbing Meph runs, Pit runs and Cows, but I'm not willing to pay cash money to buy stuff on eBay. And maybe it's just me, but when I try to do runs with 8 players, someone is always there with some PICKIT program or something... Yeesh.

Does a legit player have any chance at all to move up to the big leagues?

Forge runs? Meph-pits? Clans? Do I have to play 60 hours a week?

What's your legit-player strategy for getting big league stuff?
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how you trade is a lot more important than how you run.

it helps to have a friend to facilitate muling and transferring.

keep a paper inventory of everything you have and learn what is valuable by going to the trade forum and looking at price guides. *chances are you are throwing out items which are vaulable to someone, somewhere*

DONT play in public games. people steal and they dont share. dont fool with that.

often times the bases become more valuable than the runes that go in them. the best items ive ever found were base items from the pit.

sell your perfect gems and your low level runes in bulk. people buy them and use them to roll grand charms to make skillers, small charms to make MF/life/attack/res charms, to craft, and to socket clean items. save up until you have 40 tals, 40 rals, 40 junk jewels etc and people will buy. these are things you may have no use for, but should save and mule.

the trick is to save everything valuable because there is a buyer somewhere, or there will be. dont get bogged down with finding high end stuff because even if you do, it has to be a good roll to be really valuable. a badly rolled high end item can go for very little compared to a seemingly identical one. for instance, last season the price guide listed a windforce as being worth um, mal or ist depending on whether is had 6 7 or 8% mana leech. to me that margin is insane, but thats what people pay.

thus, ive found that buying badly rolled items and selling good roll items is a great way to profit. if you are a straight up pvm or MF character, your gear doesnt have to be perfect to have fun and get results. duelers are often willing to pay huge amounts for perfectly rolled stuff even though the difference is negligible. if you have 2 of one item, trade the better roll.

being active on the trade forums is important. you will often find people that are desperate for an item that you and a lot of other people have, but you get there first and you get the good price. i was onyl playing online for the past 6 weeks or so at the close of the ladder and i was able to make several forts, several duresses, trade for a greif berserker axe, make a death berserker axe, make a dream demonhead, and lots of other good stuff. sometimes i traded good items, like a 4 open socket eth thresher, and sometimes i traded bulk crap. the trick is to drive a hard bargain but always move product at the end of the day. dont want to get a perfect price when you are selling because the buyer will find it from somewhere else.
 
Ditto what that dude up there with the long post said.

My road to wealth.

Skillers - Skill charms are extremely sought after. How do you get them? Roll GCs. Pick up every flawless you see and cube them. Cube 3 perfs with GCs to get skillers. Trade those you don't need, keep those you need. Pcombats, Sorc, Druid Ele and PnB charms will fetch you 4,2,2,2 sojs each respectively. If you stumble on a skiller + life, then you've hit it big.

Socketables - Pick up clean berserkers, use cube formula to socket, hope for 5 socks. This fetched me 2 sojs (NL), I think I got jipped but what the hey.
3 socket good defence archon plates are worth a tidy sum.

It is very difficult to buy low and sell high on this forum, it is not so hard on the realms. I'm not asking you to go out there and rip people off, but it is possible to make small profits over trades. At off peak timings, trade values change, things are harder to find, so players have to pay more.

I used to spend like an hour watching the game lists and making trades. That was when I was item poor. I still look at the list between games to try my luck though.

Most of all you need to know what is sought after, because despite what it may seem, the RAREST unique may not be the most expensive thing.
I only just found out that the "Jewelers Monarch of Deflecting" is priceless and that is a magic item. As is the 3 PnB 20 FCR 2 OS circlet. Different charms are worth a lot too, I managed to get Ber for 20 life 8 Fire res.

Conscientiousness will bring you wealth eventually, and it is easier to build on wealth than it is to get that first SOJ or first HR through trading. Lucky breaks will come your way eventually. It was on my perhaps 12th or 13th character that my first Hellforge IST dropped.

Most important of all you need to get a good grip on what is useful and what isn't. Most of the high level uniques are useless novelty pieces. And I have been in cows games where some fool picks up a GC, ids it and drops it and it was "entrapping grand charm (+1 traps)" and another time it was "harpoonists grand charm" (+1 java skills).
 
I had the same problem. Then I realised it was down to unrealistic expectations. I don't play this game to sit on trade forums and I suspect you don't either. I play this game to play this game. Stop doing boring runs over and over, just play for fun and don't take what you read on these forums too seriously. Even if you trade legit like these people suggest, where do you think the items come from. Are the people who are suggesting you become a "Trader" in stead of a "game player" finding the items themselves? I doubt it. These items just pop into existence somehow and you know what that means. So even trading is not actually legit. It's easy to have a good hell capable character if you have a few characters and swop items between them. By all means trade but don't make work of it.
 
as vrot said, items just pop into existance...via botting or duping, very few common traded items are just found in a game..
 
BonzoHarry said:
don't get too excited i've played since 1.01 and i have never found a soj, however i have gambled them back in the day.
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u managed to gamble a soj ? can i know where did u do that ?
 
acceleration turkey said:
thus, ive found that buying badly rolled items and selling good roll items is a great way to profit. if you are a straight up pvm or MF character, your gear doesnt have to be perfect to have fun and get results. duelers are often willing to pay huge amounts for perfectly rolled stuff even though the difference is negligible. if you have 2 of one item, trade the better roll.
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I wholeheartedly agree. :thumbsup:
 
pitcike said:
u managed to gamble a soj ? can i know where did u do that ?
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Key phrase "back in the day". Pre LoD a unique item could not drop if someone in the game already had one in their possession. There were only 3 unique rings, Manald, Nagel, and Soj. So people would keep a nagel and manald on them and gamble for rings, every unique ring gambled would be a soj. Of course it was easier to gamble uniques too back then..

I used to have a cycle.

Spend 100-200k gambling on skullcaps. Every 150k or so a Tarnhelm would pop up.
Trade Tarnhelm for 1-2 sojs depending on MF %.
Keep 1 soj
Trade 1 soj for 7-8 pskulls.
Sell pskulls for 100k apiece, usually all 8 for 800k to one buyer. The popular cubing recipe at that time was re-rolling rare amulets for +2 skills with pskulls. You then had 800k to gamble on more skullcaps.. 800k would see you another 4 or 5 Tarn's and the cycle repeats itself with you making mad profit.

Ah nostalgia :lol:
 
Two words...

Perfect Gems

:rolleyes:

With enough time and patience, you can buy anything with them :thumbsup:

Bought Vex and Ist once for 100 pgems, Soj for 90 pgems, Um regularly for 40 pgems, must have bought a ****load of skillers during the time on these forums and loads and loads of usable items.

Pgems truly are the cheapest key to any wealth :D
 
DarkStooge said:
you can still gamble soj today from gheed/anya etc

ive gambled highlords/mahimoak/atmascarab/nozokan/talsammy/cats eye etc
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Yeah but the chances are soooo low now :)

But Soj seems to evade me as well, I've found tons of Nagels, Manalds, Dwarves, Ravens, Buls, Carrions but never saw a single Soj drop. (natures and wisp neither, but those are ladder only)
 
With prices the way they are right now on easy things to find (shako, occy, skullders, tals armor, ect) I would say anyone has a chance to snag some of those runewords. The first day I got my sorc into hell act 3 I was able to trade 2 items each from the durance lvl 3 for a gul each. Now I am wondering what to do with vex. Just to bad the prices on these things won't stay at ist-gul range.
 
they fixed a gambling issue they had with uniques in like .03. It used to be unique ment unique, as in if you had one of you then you couldn't find another one of it. There was also only 3 rings, nagel, manald, soj. So basically, if you were wearing nagel and manald when a unique ring appeared, it had to be a soj. DII pre .05 was the shizzle. When lvl85 barbs wore iceblink, which cost an soj. (it used to freeze completely 100% of the time)
 
First things first: if you want to get rich (or at least not poor), you'll have to be willing to trade with people who cheat/bot (or people who trade with people who cheat/bot) for items that are probably botted/duped. Most of the godly stuff out there is duped, and what isn't came through the hands of botters.

Now, if you still want to get rich, here's my thoughts:
1) Dawnmaster is right: pgems pay. They are more tradable for godly stuff than the good stuff you find mf-ing piled to the sky. (Would anyone trade a fort for 15 skullders? No, but for 15 skullders' worth of pgems, maybe.)
2) Rolling charms, like several folks said earlier, can get you into good trading shape, just be prepared to go through 200+ pgems to get 1 high trade value charm.
3) If you've still got that 99, craft, craft like the wind. Ral, junk jewel, pAmythyst, gambled ammy!
4) keys/organs/torches. Considering the odds on key drops, nobody should be paying ANYTHING for them, but bnet is FULL of trade games with keys going for 1-2 hr, and organs going for more. I wouldn't suggest trading torches on bnet, but if you can take uber-meph, you can get rich on the trading forums here with them.
5) Instead of running meph or baal over and over, have some fun clearing some 85 areas. Us non-maphack-users can often clear the pit faster than we can reach meph or baal, and the aggregate odds for a good drop per time spent are at least as good.
 
pitcike said:
u managed to gamble a soj ? can i know where did u do that ?
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Gamblin is underestimated by far, because most people do it completely wrong.
Step1: build an GOLDFINDBARB.
I made one(in Hc ladder2), the guide i found on these forums..result?:Each Nm trav run 300-500k (record drop660kso far)..after 8-10 runs u have 3million gold, each runs takes u 3 minutes max.(merc kills u just stand and watch)
Step 2: fill 4-5 chars with money
Step 3: use gheeds 15 and edge bow and a high char and start gamblin for
rings,amus,circlets... before u do that drop 10 million gold on the floor(from the 4-5chars who stored the gold).
Results: really amazing! mara22,atma scarab, natures peace,all+3 amus
+3circlets with life/fcr, +3pb100life, +3ele92life..and so on.
as soon i have the items i build a goldfinder for Hc ladder season3.
 
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