rerolling grand charms for REALLY usefull mods

[citybird]

rerolling grand charms for REALLY usefull mods

I would like to take a moment and look at what prefix/suffix bowzon's really want on a grand charm.

Prefixes:

Sharp		+49-76 To Attack Rating +7-10 Maximum Damage	(29)
Shimmering	All Resistances +3-15%				(35)[13-15]
Acrobat's 	+1 Amazon Passive Skills			(50)
Lucky		+1-12% Better Chance Of Getting Magic Items	(55)[8-12]

Suffixes:

Dexterity	+3-6 To Dexterity		(14)[5-6]
Greed		10-40% Extra Gold From Monsters	(19)[31-40]

I have not included vita since the best vita requires an ilvl of 110.
I have included magicfind and goldfind since my list seems a little small.
Bowskillers are mainly useless unless you are using the elemental tree but the ilvl is the same as the passive skills.

If we cut out the magic and skill mods the ilvl of the charm as to be no higher than 35. This cuts out a few unwanted mods. Not as many as I had hoped, but a few.

Now if we are looking for monsters to drop ilvl 35 items where would we go? Also, how do we determine what the alvl of a charm is? I would guess that it would be prudent to kill afforementioned mlvl 35 monsters and only reroll those charms that had 2 unwanted affixes in the first place. Another good way would be too look at the affix of the charm and compare it to the list over at Arreat Summit. Find your affix on the list and look at the ilvl of the affix. (##)

any other suggestions? please.

 

[Freezing Rain]

I like using gc's with 7% FRW on my zons, just because in a zon i like:

1. Fast running
2. Hit and run
3. 1 hit death.

=)

 

[Darnoc]

yes, frw is great on a good bow zon (I always hate chasing countess around the burial grounds with a new char ). My strafer just got a cats eye and now has 92% frw in addition to lvl 10 vigor from harmony on bow switch- it's amazing how fast she moves; of course this forced me to make use of angelic armor since I had to remove the angelic amulet.

Anyone know how to get a good ar level with out angelic ammy/rings?

 

[Dacar92]

FRW is nice. Gold find is useless IMO. I always have enough gold by picking up items worth 35K and selling them. The most useful from your list would be

FRW
MF
+ to dex
Resist charms (mostly Lit and cold, unless you have CBF from an item, then go for LIT and save the inventory space for something else.) Usually by the time you are halfway thru hell, your resists are high enough to be successful. To me, lightning is the most useful.

 

[Lensor]

To me, the very best Bowazon GC is:

Sharp grand charm of Maiming:
Sharp +49-76 To Attack Rating +7-10 Maximum Damage (29)
Maiming +3-4 To Maximum Damage (71)

But it needs ilvl 71, so kind of takes away the point of this whole exersise.

Good charms (with lowish ilvl req) would be:
Prefix:
- Sharp +49-76 To Attack Rating +7-10 Maximum Damage (29)
- Acrobat's +1 Amazon Passive Skills (50)
- Shimmering All Resistances +3-15% (35)[13-15]
- Amber Resist Lightning +26-30% (30)

Suffix:
- Balance 12% Faster Hit Recovery (1)
- Life +5-20 Life (19)[16-20]
- Sustenance +21-35 Life (31)[21-25](45)[26-30]
- Strength +3-6 To Strength (14)[5-6]
- Inertia 7% Faster Run/Walk (19)
- Dexterity +3-6 To Dexterity (14)[5-6]
- Inertia 7% Faster Run/Walk (19)

If you dont want to roll for a skiller or the higher sustenance suffix, a ilvl 35 charm should give you the chance of most of the best bowazon affixes. You could also skip the chance of the highest shimmering prefix and use a lvl 31 charm (takes the defense prefix out of the hat at least).

 

[citybird]

I would really want the full 15% resist all.

For FRW I looked at the small charms and they have a frw of 3% so 3 of those would be better than a 7% GC because you get 2% more FRW and 2 more mods for the same amount of space.

With harmony on switch FRW charms are not really needed as much as they used to be.

anyone figgure out where all the mlvl 35 monsters are hiding yet??

 

[Hacknshoot]

I would really want the full 15% resist all.

For FRW I looked at the small charms and they have a frw of 3% so 3 of those would be better than a 7% GC because you get 2% more FRW and 2 more mods for the same amount of space.

With harmony on switch FRW charms are not really needed as much as they used to be.

anyone figgure out where all the mlvl 35 monsters are hiding yet??

Pop the containers in the WSK L2 in Normal mode. I actually got a 15% all res GC from a container place in there with one of my nl Sorceresses. I was pretty thrilled. Then I traded it.

 

[borok]

To me, the very best Bowazon GC is:

Sharp grand charm of Maiming:
Sharp +49-76 To Attack Rating +7-10 Maximum Damage (29)
Maiming +3-4 To Maximum Damage (71)

hi got some question. is the gc with +3-4 worth keeping? i have some before but i throw it away thinking it is worthless.

 

[citybird]

With only +3 or 4 max in the suffix slot then you know it's an ilvl 71 charm. you can reroll it if you like. But if it doesn't already have a second mod I would hesatate because I wouldn't know if the alvl was 2 or not.

 

[citybird]

After a little searcing I found this thread/post:
http://www.purediablo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3873073&postcount=6

I am happy to announce that the afforementioned monsters can be found in Act 5 Normal. I've seen these guys in the River of Flame area.

So if you find a grand charm with 2 mods that you don't like dropped from one of these monsters reroll it for the REALLY usefull mods

 

[citybird]

OK I am just going to post all of my low end charm/jewl reroll ideas here for posterity and include the best ideas from everyone who have been kind enough to contribute.

Grand Charms:
Prefixes:

Sharp 		+49-76 To Attack Rating +7-10 Maximum Damage (29) 
Shimmering 	All Resistances +3-15% 		(35)[13-15] 
Sapphire 	Resist Cold +26-30% 		(30)
Ruby 		Resist Fire +26-30% 		(30)
Amber 		Resist Lightning +26-30% 	(30)

Acrobat's 	+1 Amazon Passive Skills 	(50) 
Lucky 		+1-12% Better Chance Of Getting Magic Items (55)[8-12]

Suffixes:

Dexterity 	+3-6 To Dexterity 	(14)[5-6] 
Strength 	+3-6 To Strength 	(14)[5-6]
Inertia 	7% Faster Run/Walk 	(19)
Balance 	12% Faster Hit Recovery (1)

Sustenance 	+21-35 Life (31)[21-25] 	(45)[26-30]
Greed 		10-40% Extra Gold From Monsters (19)[31-40]

Jewls:
Prefix:

Crimson +5-8 To Minimum Damage (ilvl 38) 

Vermilion 	+11-15 To Maximum Damage 	(58)
Ruby 		+31-40% Damage 			(66)
Argent 		+61-100 To Attack Rating 	(44)
Scintillating 	All Resistances +11-15 		(34)

Suffix:

Fervor 	15% Increased Attack Speed 	(ilvl 39)

Carnage 	+11-15 Maximum Damage 	(25)
Bliss 		+5-10 To Minimum Damage (43)
Freedom 	Requirements -15% 	(1)

Small Charms:
Prefix:

Fine 	+10-20 To Attack Rating, +1-3 To Maximum Damage 	(28)
Shimmering 	All Resistances +3-5% 	(33)
Sapphire 	Resist Cold +10-11% 	(40)
Ruby 		Resist Fire +10-11% 	(40)
Amber 		Resist Lightning +10-11% 	(40)
Emerald 	Resist Poison +10-11% 	(40)

Hibernal 	+8-10 Minimum and +15-20 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Sec (91)
Flaming 	+10-19 Minimum and +20-29 Maximum Fire Damage 	(89)
Shocking 	+1 Minimum and +44-71 Maximum Lightning Damage 	(90)
Pestilent 	+175 Poison Damage Over 6 Seconds 	(88)

Suffixes:

Balance 	5% Fast Hit Recovery 	(37)
Good Luck 	6-7% Better Chance Of Getting Magic Items 	(47)
Vita 		+16-20 Life 	(47)
Strength 	+1-2 To Strength 	(5)[1](22)[2]
Dexterity 	+1-2 To Dexterity 	(7)[1](22)[2]
Inertia 	3% Faster Run/Walk 	(35)
Anthrax 	+50 Poison Damage Over 6 Seconds 	(44)
Winter 		+4-5 Minimum and +7-9 Maximum Cold Damage - 1 Second (46)
Incineration 	+5-7 Minimum and +9-13 Maximum Fire Damage 	(45)
Storms 		+1 Minimum and +19-28 Maximum Lightning Damage 	(45)

I went a little crazy with the small charms because to be honest the best mods are the high ones.

 

[citybird]

and now for the best info. area lvls shamelessly copied here so there is no link. You might have to reduce the font size in your browser to get it to look right.

Name                         Id arealvlNorm  arealvlNM arealvlHell LevelName

Null                         0                                     

Act 1 - Town                 1                                     Rogue Encampment

Act 1 - Wilderness 1         2    1          36         67         Blood Moor

Act 1 - Wilderness 2         3    2          36         68         Cold Plains

Act 1 - Wilderness 3         4    4          37         68         Stony Field

Act 1 - Wilderness 4         5    5          38         68         Dark Wood

Act 1 - Wilderness 5         6    6          38         69         Black Marsh

Act 1 - Wilderness 6         7    8          39         69         Tamoe Highland

Act 1 - Cave 1               8    1          36         79         Den of Evil

Act 1 - Cave 2               9    2          36         77         Cave Level 1

Act 1 - Cave 3               10   4          37         69         Underground Passage Level 1

Act 1 - Cave 4               11   5          38         80         Hole Level 1

Act 1 - Cave 5               12   7          39         85         Pit Level 1

Act 1 - Cave 2 Treasure      13   2          37         78         Cave Level 2

Act 1 - Cave 3 Treasure      14   4          38         83         Underground Passage Level 2

Act 1 - Cave 4 Treasure      15   5          39         81         Hole Level 2

Act 1 - Cave 5 Treasure      16   7          40         85         Pit Level 2

Act 1 - Graveyard            17   3          36         80         Burial Grounds

Act 1 - Crypt 1 A            18   3          37         83         Crypt

Act 1 - Crypt 2 A            19   3          37         85         Mausoleum

Act 1 - Tower 2              20                                    Forgotten Tower

Act 1 - Crypt 3 A            21   7          38         75         Tower Cellar Level 1

Act 1 - Crypt 3 B            22   7          39         76         Tower Cellar Level 2

Act 1 - Crypt 3 C            23   7          40         77         Tower Cellar Level 3

Act 1 - Crypt 3 D            24   7          41         78         Tower Cellar Level 4

Act 1 - Crypt 3 E            25   7          42         79         Tower Cellar Level 5

Act 1 - Monastery            26   8          40         70         Monastery Gate

Act 1 - Courtyard 1          27   9          40         70         Outer Cloister

Act 1 - Barracks             28   9          40         70         Barracks

Act 1 - Jail 1               29   10         41         71         Jail Level 1

Act 1 - Jail 2               30   10         41         71         Jail Level 2

Act 1 - Jail 3               31   10         41         71         Jail Level 3

Act 1 - Courtyard 2          32   10         41         72         Inner Cloister

Act 1 - Cathedral            33   11         42         72         Cathedral

Act 1 - Catacombs 1          34   11         42         72         Catacombs Level 1

Act 1 - Catacombs 2          35   11         42         73         Catacombs Level 2

Act 1 - Catacombs 3          36   12         43         73         Catacombs Level 3

Act 1 - Catacombs 4          37   12         43         73         Catacombs Level 4

Act 1 - Tristram             38   6          39         76         Tristram

Act 1 - Moo Moo Farm         39   28         64         81         Moo Moo Farm





Act 2 - Town                 40                                    Lut Gholein

Act 2 - Desert 1             41   14         43         75         Rocky Waste

Act 2 - Desert 2             42   15         44         76         Dry Hills

Act 2 - Desert 3             43   16         45         76         Far Oasis

Act 2 - Desert 4             44   17         46         77         Lost City

Act 2 - Desert 5             45   18         46         77         Valley of Snakes

Act 2 - Valley of the Kings  46   16         48         79         Canyon of the Magi

Act 2 - Sewer 1 A            47   13         43         74         Sewers Level 1

Act 2 - Sewer 1 B            48   13         43         74         Sewers Level 2

Act 2 - Sewer 1 C            49   14         44         75         Sewers Level 3

Act 2 - Harem                50                                    Harem Level 1

Act 2 - Corrupt Harem 1      51   13         47         78         Harem Level 2

Act 2 - Basement 1           52   13         47         78         Palace Cellar Level 1

Act 2 - Basement 2           53   13         47         78         Palace Cellar Level 2

Act 2 - Basement 3           54   13         48         78         Palace Cellar Level 3

Act 2 - Tomb 1 A             55   12         44         78         Stony Tomb Level 1

Act 2 - Tomb 2 A             56   12         44         79         Halls of the Dead Level 1

Act 2 - Tomb 2 B             57   13         45         81         Halls of the Dead Level 2

Act 2 - Tomb 3 A             58   14         47         82         Claw Viper Temple Level 1

Act 2 - Tomb 1 Treasure      59   12         44         79         Stony Tomb Level 2

Act 2 - Tomb 2 Treasure      60   13         45         82         Halls of the Dead Level 3

Act 2 - Tomb 3 Treasure      61   14         47         83         Claw Viper Temple Level 2

Act 2 - Lair 1 A             62   17         45         84         Maggot Lair Level 1

Act 2 - Lair 1 B             63   17         45         84         Maggot Lair Level 2

Act 2 - Lair 1 Treasure      64   17         46         85         Maggot Lair Level 3

Act 2 - Sewer 2 A            65   17         46         85         Ancient Tunnels

Act 2 - Tomb Tal 1           66   17         49         80         Tal Rasha's Tomb

Act 2 - Tomb Tal 2           67   17         49         80         Tal Rasha's Tomb

Act 2 - Tomb Tal 3           68   17         49         80         Tal Rasha's Tomb

Act 2 - Tomb Tal 4           69   17         49         80         Tal Rasha's Tomb

Act 2 - Tomb Tal 5           70   17         49         80         Tal Rasha's Tomb

Act 2 - Tomb Tal 6           71   17         49         80         Tal Rasha's Tomb

Act 2 - Tomb Tal 7           72   17         49         80         Tal Rasha's Tomb

Act 2 - Duriel's Lair        73   17         49         80         Duriel's Lair

Act 2 - Arcane               74   14         48         79         Arcane Sanctuary





Act 3 - Town                 75                                    Kurast Docktown

Act 3 - Jungle 1             76   21         49         79         Spider Forest

Act 3 - Jungle 2             77   21         50         80         Great Marsh

Act 3 - Jungle 3             78   22         50         80         Flayer Jungle

Act 3 - Kurast 1             79   22         52         80         Lower Kurast

Act 3 - Kurast 2             80   22         52         81         Kurast Bazaar

Act 3 - Kurast 3             81   23         52         81         Upper Kurast

Act 3 - Kurast 4             82   24         53         81         Kurast Causeway

Act 3 - Travincal            83   24         54         82         Travincal

Act 3 - Spider 1             84   21         50         79         Spider Cave

Act 3 - Spider 2             85   21         50         79         Arachnid's lair

Act 3 - Dungeon 1 A          86   21         51         80         Swampy Pit Level 1

Act 3 - Dungeon 1 B          87   21         51         81         Swampy Pit Level 2

Act 3 - Dungeon 2 A          88   22         51         81         Flayer Dungeon Level 1

Act 3 - Dungeon 2 B          89   22         51         82         Flayer Dungeon Level 2

Act 3 - Dungeon 1 Treasure   90   21         51         82         Swampy Pit Level 3

Act 3 - Dungeon 2 Treasure   91   22         51         83         Flayer Dungeon Level 3

Act 3 - Sewer 1              92   23         52         84         Sewers Level 1

Act 3 - Sewer 2              93   24         53         85         Sewers Level 2

Act 3 - Temple 1             94   23         53         84         Ruined Temple

Act 3 - Temple 2             95   23         53         84         Disused Fane

Act 3 - Temple 3             96   23         53         84         Forgotten Reliquary

Act 3 - Temple 4             97   24         54         85         Forgotten Temple

Act 3 - Temple 5             98   24         54         85         Ruined Fane

Act 3 - Temple 6             99   24         54         85         Disused Reliquary

Act 3 - Mephisto 1           100  25         55         83         Durance of Hate Level 1

Act 3 - Mephisto 2           101  25         55         83         Durance of Hate Level 2

Act 3 - Mephisto 3           102  25         55         83         Durance of Hate Level 3





Act 4 - Town                 103                                   The Pandemonium Fortress

Act 4 - Mesa 1               104  26         56         82         Outer Steppes

Act 4 - Mesa 2               105  26         56         83         Plains of Despair

Act 4 - Mesa 3               106  27         57         84         City of the Damned

Act 4 - Lava 1               107  27         57         85         River of Flame

Act 4 - Diablo 1             108  28         58         85         Chaos Sanctum

Expansion                                                          





Act 5 - Town                 109                                   Harrogath

Act 5 - Siege 1              110  24         58         80         Bloody Foothills

Act 5 - Barricade 1          111  25         59         81         Rigid Highlands

Act 5 - Barricade 2          112  26         60         81         Arreat Plateau

Act 5 - Ice Cave 1           113  29         61         82         Crystaline Passage

Act 5 - Ice Cave 1A          114  29         61         83         Frozen River

Act 5 - Ice Cave 2           115  29         61         83         Glacial Trail

Act 5 - Ice Cave 2A          116  29         61         84         Drifter Cavern 

Act 5 - Barricade Snow       117  27         60         81         Frozen Tundra

Act 5 - Ice Cave 3           118  29         62         82         The Ancient's Way 

Act 5 - Ice Cave 3A          119  29         62         83         Icy Cellar 

Act 5 - Mountain Top         120  37         68         87         Arreat Summit

Act 5 - Temple Entrance      121  32         63         83         Nihlathaks Temple

Act 5 - Temple 1             122  33         63         83         Halls of Anguish

Act 5 - Temple 2             123  34         64         84         Halls of Pain

Act 5 - Temple Boss          124  36         64         84         Halls of Vaught

Act 5 - Hell 1               125  39         60         81         Abaddon

Act 5 - Hell 2               126  39         61         82         Pit of Acheron

Act 5 - Hell 3               127  39         62         83         Infernal Pit

Act 5 - Baal Temple 1        128  39         65         85         The Worldstone Keep Level 1

Act 5 - Baal Temple 2        129  40         65         85         The Worldstone Keep Level 2

Act 5 - Baal Temple 3        130  42         66         85         The Worldstone Keep Level 3

Act 5 - Throne Room          131  43         66         85         Throne of Destruction

Act 5 - World Stone          132  43         66         85         The Worldstone Chamber



All of the new 1.11 and 1.11b areas are area level 83.