Caluin Graye
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Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
I did? Please enlighten me as to why you think this.
I did? Please enlighten me as to why you think this.
Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
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ThunderCat
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Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
I trusted my instinct with Technomancer yesterday, so I'll do the same with Zarniwoop.
I'm not buying the whole "I'm sick so if you want to lynch me I don't care". A true townie will fight until he is lynched.
Vote: Zarniwoop
I trusted my instinct with Technomancer yesterday, so I'll do the same with Zarniwoop.
I'm not buying the whole "I'm sick so if you want to lynch me I don't care". A true townie will fight until he is lynched.
Vote: Zarniwoop
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
I didn't try that, it was KI that wrote up the long post about it. I just referenced it.
I don't have him as a prime suspect. You are a prime suspect.
You and a few others just throw around the scum word with totally irrelevant attachments and expect it to stick. The saddest part is some of the people around here are swayed by that.
Fine, you want to play scum hardball? Let's play. If I am not a vanilla townie, I'll never post on these forums again. Eat it scumbag.
I didn't try that, it was KI that wrote up the long post about it. I just referenced it.
I don't have him as a prime suspect. You are a prime suspect.
You and a few others just throw around the scum word with totally irrelevant attachments and expect it to stick. The saddest part is some of the people around here are swayed by that.
Fine, you want to play scum hardball? Let's play. If I am not a vanilla townie, I'll never post on these forums again. Eat it scumbag.
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
Hangover from hell, but wall of post incoming nonetheless. Feel the pain I feel!
I targeted Asrrin because I believed the SK would go for a kill on a mafia. It was a toss up between him, Bad Ash and Ankeli. However I didn't see anyone and the SK ended up targeting a townie (lol)
I presume you were the target because I used my watcher ability on you because you were a likely NK target. Cal immediatly went for the Asrrin hitman theory because he saw CgB targeting himself on day one. I didn't know that at the time and I only saw Asrrin targeting Ivan. At this point we already knew that Asrrin also targeted TC one night without TC dying. It's only natural I can suspect that Asrrin is the doc and was trying to save Ivan.
However it wasn't hard to find out CgB was the other person after a while. They both claim doctor. There's also a chance they both are and me and Cal both missed the third person targeting Ivan. My ability is limited in two ways of the word. Perhaps Cal's is too, but without people actually coming forward about targeting people on which nights we can't know.
Why would mafia know the other person was CgB? If they suspected CgB would target Ivan wouldn't they then target CgB? I only found out by eliminating people for the spot and worked it out after the day started/
I'm not backpeddeling out of anything. I urge you to reread those few posts around mine. Cal suggested the chance of seeing more than one person. I simply said I don't have a full watcher role because I have another ability aswell. Perhaps I only get one result to balance it out.
Again, I did not suggest the chance factor. And again, what backpeddeling? I was talking about the possibility of asrrin being the hitman and/or having another PR ability. Which my other ability could be a counter too.
No clue what you're going on here about. If CgB was mafia and got his kill redirected onto himself (He would have to be the godfather and NK immune, very plausible) How does me bringing that up in any way make me mafia with him? I did not mention CgB at all at that point.
Your mind is quickly changed. They didn't say anything that implicates me. We already know that, at least my, watcher action didn't reveal everyone.
And you didn't reveal your role. Anybody could have found your role by the time I said it.
I gunned for your lynch because you made mistake after mistake and played very scummy. And your evidence was far from nameclearing at the time.
Dude, you claimed VT. Don't get your panties in a twist over claiming VT. Your mafia or SK anyway so the theatrics are unwarrented.
Making threats like that you deserve to be lynched. Not only are you blackmailing us into not lynching you it's dirty and outside the gameplay of mafia.
Please let go of this. I've already quoted the bit about that and you didn't bother to reply back then and now you're bringing it up again. Zarni never said he knew the VT's full PM. Any moron could see it wasn't the full town PM val copied and that is only what Zarni said.
Hangover from hell, but wall of post incoming nonetheless. Feel the pain I feel!
I targeted Asrrin because I believed the SK would go for a kill on a mafia. It was a toss up between him, Bad Ash and Ankeli. However I didn't see anyone and the SK ended up targeting a townie (lol)
I presume you were the target because I used my watcher ability on you because you were a likely NK target. Cal immediatly went for the Asrrin hitman theory because he saw CgB targeting himself on day one. I didn't know that at the time and I only saw Asrrin targeting Ivan. At this point we already knew that Asrrin also targeted TC one night without TC dying. It's only natural I can suspect that Asrrin is the doc and was trying to save Ivan.
However it wasn't hard to find out CgB was the other person after a while. They both claim doctor. There's also a chance they both are and me and Cal both missed the third person targeting Ivan. My ability is limited in two ways of the word. Perhaps Cal's is too, but without people actually coming forward about targeting people on which nights we can't know.
Why would mafia know the other person was CgB? If they suspected CgB would target Ivan wouldn't they then target CgB? I only found out by eliminating people for the spot and worked it out after the day started/
I'm not backpeddeling out of anything. I urge you to reread those few posts around mine. Cal suggested the chance of seeing more than one person. I simply said I don't have a full watcher role because I have another ability aswell. Perhaps I only get one result to balance it out.
Again, I did not suggest the chance factor. And again, what backpeddeling? I was talking about the possibility of asrrin being the hitman and/or having another PR ability. Which my other ability could be a counter too.
No clue what you're going on here about. If CgB was mafia and got his kill redirected onto himself (He would have to be the godfather and NK immune, very plausible) How does me bringing that up in any way make me mafia with him? I did not mention CgB at all at that point.
Your mind is quickly changed. They didn't say anything that implicates me. We already know that, at least my, watcher action didn't reveal everyone.
And you didn't reveal your role. Anybody could have found your role by the time I said it.
I gunned for your lynch because you made mistake after mistake and played very scummy. And your evidence was far from nameclearing at the time.
Dude, you claimed VT. Don't get your panties in a twist over claiming VT. Your mafia or SK anyway so the theatrics are unwarrented.
Making threats like that you deserve to be lynched. Not only are you blackmailing us into not lynching you it's dirty and outside the gameplay of mafia.
Please let go of this. I've already quoted the bit about that and you didn't bother to reply back then and now you're bringing it up again. Zarni never said he knew the VT's full PM. Any moron could see it wasn't the full town PM val copied and that is only what Zarni said.
CoolguyBad
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Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
Zarni, that's a bit much isn't it? That's like saying if you lynch me, I'm going to kill myself in real life too. Let's not bring anything outside into it like that >_>
TC, why do your instincts point to Zarni? Not sure if he's the safest lynch right now.
Zarni, that's a bit much isn't it? That's like saying if you lynch me, I'm going to kill myself in real life too. Let's not bring anything outside into it like that >_>
TC, why do your instincts point to Zarni? Not sure if he's the safest lynch right now.
ThunderCat
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Kraz3yIvan
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Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
Well we can put to bed from this that Asrrin is not the mafia strangling killer - plus we have him targetting you TC and you still live - so I have to put him in the unlikely mafia class, makes my kits rather useless if they don't work!
We got any further with this TC? I'm almost thinking gorny just to clear up his actions who he switched would we get a better picture
Its rather hard to decide who to target now to be honest
I think the course of action should be lynch ankeli (mainly due to Asrrin info)
Vote: Ankeli
The good side of this is if we miss mafia with Ankeli we have a strong shot at lynching the SK - if we get a total dud we know Zarni is likely SK.
Question is can we still win if we miss totally! :/
Well we can put to bed from this that Asrrin is not the mafia strangling killer - plus we have him targetting you TC and you still live - so I have to put him in the unlikely mafia class, makes my kits rather useless if they don't work!
We got any further with this TC? I'm almost thinking gorny just to clear up his actions who he switched would we get a better picture
Its rather hard to decide who to target now to be honest
I think the course of action should be lynch ankeli (mainly due to Asrrin info)
Vote: Ankeli
The good side of this is if we miss mafia with Ankeli we have a strong shot at lynching the SK - if we get a total dud we know Zarni is likely SK.
Question is can we still win if we miss totally! :/
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
I am leaning towards Ankeli as well. He is still trying to force his own agenda and I think it would give us info on Zarni while vice versa might not be true.
I do have to agree with TC though, there is a first time for everything and the way this game has been played by Zarni would point to him not being who he says he is.
both ank and zarni have very weak role claims and in a game with a lot of power roles I am surprised at how many "vanilla" there are as well.
I think if we lynch Ankeli and he turns up town we have to go with a 1 and 1a of asrrin and zarni
I am leaning towards Ankeli as well. He is still trying to force his own agenda and I think it would give us info on Zarni while vice versa might not be true.
I do have to agree with TC though, there is a first time for everything and the way this game has been played by Zarni would point to him not being who he says he is.
both ank and zarni have very weak role claims and in a game with a lot of power roles I am surprised at how many "vanilla" there are as well.
I think if we lynch Ankeli and he turns up town we have to go with a 1 and 1a of asrrin and zarni
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
Also, checking the vote count both ankeli and zarni have votes on asrrin. Could give us a tell.
At KI I "THINK" we have a chance to win if we are wrong due to the fact the kills have dropped from 2 to 1 on most nights due to what the story is telling us is double targets. Very lucky
Also, checking the vote count both ankeli and zarni have votes on asrrin. Could give us a tell.
At KI I "THINK" we have a chance to win if we are wrong due to the fact the kills have dropped from 2 to 1 on most nights due to what the story is telling us is double targets. Very lucky
ThunderCat
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Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
I think I finally figured it out. The mafia team should be comprised of Sathoris, Asrrin and Caluin. Why?
Both Sathoris and Asrrin jumped on a crappy reason lynch train started by myself on Zarniwoop.
Sathoris and Caluin only managed to see Asrrin and CoolguyBad (but they didn't mention who it was in hopes that the doctor would claim). Thus, this who watcher/investigator thing is a ploy for them to gain town credit. Either that, or Caluin does have said ability but he still is mafia (thinking of the whole Ivan and Loz thing, but that could have been that start of the fake claim, keeping in mind that Caluin claimed such a thing after both Ivan and Loz confirmed the item transaction). Thus, I saw we lynch either Sathoris or Asrrin and see what we get.
I can also investigate people who are locked as far as I was told. So if we lock someone today, I can perform the investigation which should give us more to talk about.
Unvote: Zarniwoop
Which ones would you choose Ivan?
I think I finally figured it out. The mafia team should be comprised of Sathoris, Asrrin and Caluin. Why?
Both Sathoris and Asrrin jumped on a crappy reason lynch train started by myself on Zarniwoop.
Sathoris and Caluin only managed to see Asrrin and CoolguyBad (but they didn't mention who it was in hopes that the doctor would claim). Thus, this who watcher/investigator thing is a ploy for them to gain town credit. Either that, or Caluin does have said ability but he still is mafia (thinking of the whole Ivan and Loz thing, but that could have been that start of the fake claim, keeping in mind that Caluin claimed such a thing after both Ivan and Loz confirmed the item transaction). Thus, I saw we lynch either Sathoris or Asrrin and see what we get.
I can also investigate people who are locked as far as I was told. So if we lock someone today, I can perform the investigation which should give us more to talk about.
Unvote: Zarniwoop
Which ones would you choose Ivan?
Caluin Graye
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Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
Yeah, I'm starting to see that too.
I got to thinking; both of the mafia we've lynched so far have had non-NK powers. It's safe to assume that the others do, as well. They've been given different ways of killing (strangling, bullets, poison), so perhaps they have to choose who performs the actual killing, leaving the others to use their other powers.
If this is true, then that could explain why Asrrin was able to target ThunderCat on night 2 without killing him. A different mafia member was sent to perform the 'hit', leaving Asrrin only capable of his non-NK power, perhaps a role block or something.
Additionally, I've noticed that both Techno and Noodle offered up fake roles that mimicked versions of town roles, but not as strong. The "drunken bus-driver", and the "assistant journalist." Both proved to be bunk. What if that is a common tactic the mafia decided upon? Who else is claiming stripped down roles?
(The answer to that would be Asrrin and TC.)
Yeah, I'm starting to see that too.
I got to thinking; both of the mafia we've lynched so far have had non-NK powers. It's safe to assume that the others do, as well. They've been given different ways of killing (strangling, bullets, poison), so perhaps they have to choose who performs the actual killing, leaving the others to use their other powers.
If this is true, then that could explain why Asrrin was able to target ThunderCat on night 2 without killing him. A different mafia member was sent to perform the 'hit', leaving Asrrin only capable of his non-NK power, perhaps a role block or something.
Additionally, I've noticed that both Techno and Noodle offered up fake roles that mimicked versions of town roles, but not as strong. The "drunken bus-driver", and the "assistant journalist." Both proved to be bunk. What if that is a common tactic the mafia decided upon? Who else is claiming stripped down roles?
(The answer to that would be Asrrin and TC.)
Kraz3yIvan
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Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
Well I have to point out that asrrin did avoid the positive result from the kit so out of the two I would say Sathoris gets my vote - he may very well be townie but something just seems off to me
How about a limited use/partial observer? That seem like a watered down version to me - again that's Sathoris, its a hard call to be fair he's a good player and good players look aligned to whoever they want you to believe! Plus we were up against day talking mafia, that means everyone's story would be pretty damn in sync - With Asrrin and Ankeli going hammer and tongs at each other 1 of them two is deffo mafia.
If I'm being honest I'm still not sold on bad ash let alone Zarni being townie - from my limited view point its almost a blind pick ....... I'll do Sathoris or Ankeli for today's lynch......between these two Sathoris by a nose. One additional thing to wonder is how you have survived this long TC, I was lucky with a doctor save but you seem to keep on trucking - I think we should use your ability today too to get some info
Unvote: Ankeli
Vote: Sathoris
Well I have to point out that asrrin did avoid the positive result from the kit so out of the two I would say Sathoris gets my vote - he may very well be townie but something just seems off to me
How about a limited use/partial observer? That seem like a watered down version to me - again that's Sathoris, its a hard call to be fair he's a good player and good players look aligned to whoever they want you to believe! Plus we were up against day talking mafia, that means everyone's story would be pretty damn in sync - With Asrrin and Ankeli going hammer and tongs at each other 1 of them two is deffo mafia.
If I'm being honest I'm still not sold on bad ash let alone Zarni being townie - from my limited view point its almost a blind pick ....... I'll do Sathoris or Ankeli for today's lynch......between these two Sathoris by a nose. One additional thing to wonder is how you have survived this long TC, I was lucky with a doctor save but you seem to keep on trucking - I think we should use your ability today too to get some info
Unvote: Ankeli
Vote: Sathoris
