Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

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Ankeli has to be anti-town. He is picking on people who havent claimed and causing chaos because of it. he is blinders on and refusing to help the town. he has claimed vanilla, he is bullying people into roleclaims trying to weed out even more info and telling us what we know.

My vote stays on him atm. I will switch if I have to but the facts are there.

remember yesterday I believe ankeli goes "I will even role claim at the start of the day and disappear so you can settle it like it should be"

Vanilla townie is that strong of a claim where you could disappear for the whole day? And why didnt you do such a thing Ank? Instead you are influencing others and pushing youre agenda like you have been all game
 
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In the face of logic and safety, can someone please reassure me that:

Bad Ash #638, Asrrin 683 and now Sathoris #698

Is not a power-play by the mafia to lynch a Townie? And place them nearly over the finishing line?

Can anyone specifically poke holes in that hypothesis?

I suspect Bad Ash on playstyle, Asrrin has circumstantial evidence against him and Sathoris - why are we trusting him again? Remind me.
 
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The fact that he knew I was doctor was pretty convincing, though Cal is kind of right when saying there isn't many people left and it's not too hard to figure out the doctor. However, then they should have been able to deduce that last night and kill me already, not sure why that wouldn't happen.
 
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CgB, the problem with trying to NK a Doc is you have to pick him on a Night he isn't protecting himself.
The mafia, if they're smart, will thin the ranks a little if they aren't certain of NK'ing the Doc, and hope to have the Doc lynched by branding him as Mafia - "If he is the Doc, why hasn't the Mafia killed him, he must be scum."
It's a thing.
Sathoris didn't know you were the Doc, he was guessing.
 
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They weren't sure whether it was me, you or Zarniwoop and propably wanted to take a safe bet in taking out a power role that had threatened them with a revealing item.
 
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Ankeli said:
Lynch me over Techno if those are your choices. I'd prefer Asrrin, but my role will indeed reveal a lot of useful information. More so than Techno.
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While techno won't give us any more info over the other members. He's conf scum. We can lynch him today and decide whether to lynch you tomorow. But we can't stall too long or else the SK will take the initiative away.

LozHinge the Unhinged said:
In the face of logic and safety, can someone please reassure me that:

Bad Ash #638, Asrrin 683 and now Sathoris #698
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What's wrong with my post? I'm playing with logic and safety. Lynching Techno means lynching scum which is always good. Lynching Ankeli reveals the other mafia without risk of losing the doctor. I'll vote for your target if that gains your trust.

LozHinge the Unhinged said:
and Sathoris - why are we trusting him again? Remind me.
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Because I'm providing you with theory's and solutions to the problem we're facing. Besides my roleblock immune and watch result the coming night might end all uncertainty. If you don't trust me then I can't help you. If you've got questions or anything then fire away. I'll glady settle your nerves.

LozHinge the Unhinged said:
CgB, the problem with trying to NK a Doc is you have to pick him on a Night he isn't protecting himself.
The mafia, if they're smart, will thin the ranks a little if they aren't certain of NK'ing the Doc, and hope to have the Doc lynched by branding him as Mafia - "If he is the Doc, why hasn't the Mafia killed him, he must be scum."
It's a thing.
Sathoris didn't know you were the Doc, he was guessing.
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I wouldn't go on record with a guess which would look like an obvious fishing attempt. I knew he was the doc. Besides I saw him target Ivan. But I haven't rejected the godfather theory, so hold your horses.


 
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With so many observational and reporting roles everywhere its hard to believe the mafia do not have some sort of counter. They know people are watching at night, so its possible one of them switched Asrrin as he was not targetting me last night according to him.

My quick read (feel free to correct me)
removing Gorny out the equation has the first non NK target as either CgB or Asrrin as they were the only ones who have claimed doc roles and they protected themselves.

I am having trouble ironing out the observed Asrrin > TC and the switch of Asrrin targetting me.
When Asrrin > TC (observed) --- CgB was targetting Mara (claimed)
No NK's that night
Last night I was apparently targeted - CgB and Asrrin were observed targetting me.
But Asrrin says I was not his target?
So that means
1) He lies - mafia or at the very least Anti-town role
2) He is not lying and had his target interfered with
3) The observers were interfered with in some fashion.
4) Technically there is a fourth but its a massive long shot since they are as near townie as it gets - that is the observers are lying.

I don't know something just doesn't sit right with a doc AND a poison doc. At least we can get some info tonight with observational people again if we plan the protection out. I suggest people with my items use them tonight too or definitely the next night.

Techno and Zarni better get writing some info down cos I am happy to make the mafia pool just that bit smaller!

Vote: Technomancer
 
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Just to add from TC a while back - Goryani (the bodyguard), it seems he protected Ankeli the first night and Marahumm the second.
 
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My concern is Bad Ash and possibly Asrrin are either throwing their mafia pal Ankeli under the bus, or perhaps Ankeli is somehow town and the mafia are making a concerted effort to pull a train on him. I don't have anything approaching certainty either way, regardless of how I feel it all may turn out. Your quote of my post #702 removed reference to my concern.

I am suspicious of anyone saying that, in a 6-4-1 situation, it is better to take a chance NOW (and maybe getting to 5-4-1 after a risky Ankeli lynch) simply to get information, rather than wait until we are at 6-3-1 (having lynched Technomancer) - and then lynch for that information.

If there is a rational and believable reason for my logic being faulty, I'd like to hear it. I am simply suspicious of other strategies which to me seem riskier, but which have the same likely pay-off. I am mindful of more than one reason why someone might propose the riskier option at 6-4-1 and I don't like any of them.
 
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*Going through the numbers I realised I've been stupid. We need to lynch Technoscum now as it will very likely help us in the long run. With another round of watch results I reckon we can tell the liar from CgB/Ankeli/Asrrin tomorrow.*

Vote: Techno

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If we end up 6v3v1 tonight. The mafia will kill a townie and the SK will kill a mafia, as it needs to to survive*. We'll be on 5v2v1. We don't need to rely on the SK to get a lynch. Which means we can lynch the SK when we need to and the Ankeli/Asrrin/CgB will likely have provided a safe lynch target.

If we mislynch at 6v4v1 (Which is more likelier now than when we have two more watch results) we end up at 5v4v1. The SK will kill mafia and we'll be on 4v3v1. Dependable on the SK.

*Mafia likely has a roleblocker but I can make Zarni unblockable and the kill will go ahead. Even if they kill me the action will count anyway.
 
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Addendum to the above. We need to lynch the SK before he gets a chance to commit another kill. Cause he won't kill mafia at that stage.
 
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Unvote: Techno

Actually I think we need to refrain from voting untill we can all decide on the best action to avoid quick mafia motivated locks.
 
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The best action to take is to get rid of the unknowns and give us more time to be certain about the other ones. It's simpler and less risky that way.

Also, I just realized something. Noodle claimed to be an intern reporter thingie. Then claimed the to have almost the same abilities. Now we see Sathoris with having a two shot of said ability. What if all 3 are mafia and those were fake roles Uraj gave them? As we have been hosts give the mafia fake roles to claim. Just a theory that we should look into.
 
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I keep going through numbers, theory's and outcomes in my head and it's making me crazy. And it probably looks like I'm all over the place.

Simply put, the variables are too abundant to predict further than one day. We just need to decide whether to lynch Techno or Ankeli today and determine some strategy for CG and my watcher results, and work something out with the doc.

ThunderCat said:
Also, I just realized something. Noodle claimed to be an intern reporter thingie. Then claimed the to have almost the same abilities. Now we see Sathoris with having a two shot of said ability. What if all 3 are mafia and those were fake roles Uraj gave them? As we have been hosts give the mafia fake roles to claim. Just a theory that we should look into.
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I'm sorry but I don't understand a thing of this.


 
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LozHinge the Unhinged said:
In the face of logic and safety, can someone please reassure me that:

Bad Ash #638, Asrrin 683 and now Sathoris #698

Is not a power-play by the mafia to lynch a Townie? And place them nearly over the finishing line?

Can anyone specifically poke holes in that hypothesis?

I suspect Bad Ash on playstyle, Asrrin has circumstantial evidence against him and Sathoris - why are we trusting him again? Remind me.
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Keep ignoring the facts, thats cool. Cause we are going to lose this game based on this post. Asrrin doesn't have any evidence against him actually.

can anyone point to one night we had 3 kills? anyone? bhueller?

TC being targetted by Asrrin means absolutely nothing. You are saying their is circumstantial evidence? Lets see it. Show me, quote it, I would love to see it.

We have two factions of anti-town in this game. you know who said so? Laarz. He was the "head of security" according to TC, yea well he was more than that he was a vigilante cop. I was able to talk to him while he was alive as we were in a mason group. The two things he said were that the mafia traitor was an investigative role and that we had two factions of anti-town in this game. I have no idea how many of each group there are all I know is that two exist and you all are being manipulated by each side.

The only way to win this game is to weed out the anti-town and hope they target eachother. The greatest thing we had happen in this game is two people targetting goryani because it saved the game for us. The Asrrin lynch is being pushed by Ankeli and is extremely unsubstantial as we have two groups and two kills on the night he targetted TC. I still dont understand how people have reached the conclusion that he is mafia as Ankeli said he was not the doctor (did asrrin ever say he WAS the doc?) and we are going from there. We have an overpowered mafia and the lynches have been dictated by them so far the whopping 3 we have had. There is no chance to win.



Ankeli said:
They weren't sure whether it was me, you or Zarniwoop and propably wanted to take a safe bet in taking out a power role that had threatened them with a revealing item.
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Love it. This is hilarious as Ankeli keeps putting himself in the group of the town with statements like these.

There are 2 lynches tonight IMO, Ankeli or Techno and I personally belive you cant play a scummier game than Ankeli has played. I am a roleblocker for the town and when I heard Mar claimed cop I thougth it iwas 100% BS because Laarz was a cop. When I heard Noodle claim a cop I thought 100% it was BS and was right. Ignore the facts and this game is over, you have to remember that the anti-town has an agenda being so close to a win and if someone can break down the asrrin lynch I am more than happy to hear it. Targetting someone and having 2 kills on the same night = anti-town? What?

What does a Techno lynch tell us?
What does an Ankeli lynch tell us?

My vote remains the same because he is pressing the issue with no facts to back it up plain and simple



 
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Bad Ash said:
We have two factions of anti-town in this game. you know who said so? Laarz. He was the "head of security" according to TC, yea well he was more than that he was a vigilante cop. I was able to talk to him while he was alive as we were in a mason group. The two things he said were that the mafia traitor was an investigative role and that we had two factions of anti-town in this game. I have no idea how many of each group there are all I know is that two exist and you all are being manipulated by each side.
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Wow, that's a huge stretch. You honestly expect people to believe that? How was he in a single night able to deduce there were two mafia groups, a traitor was amongst them, *and* he was a vigilante? On top of being part of a mason group... that's an absurdly powerful role. Imagine how much he could have told us had he lived an extra night or two!

Nope, sorry, not buying it.

Bad Ash said:
What does a Techno lynch tell us?
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Absolutely nothing. That's not the point. We lynch him to buy us time. We *know* he's mafia.

Bad Ash said:
My vote remains the same because he is pressing the issue with no facts to back it up plain and simple
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And that, along with the far fetched lies, is why you're scum.

(Incidentally, I also believe Ankeli to be scum, but recognize that Techo is the better move for the town. Anyone who can't see that and pushing a different agenda is likely scum).



 
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All I see is Bad Ash trying to bus his buddies to try and get some cred with the town. We lynch Techno or Ankeli today, and the rest on the following days. But if Bad Ash really wants to help us lynch his buddies, the easier that makes it for us.
 
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Hey Caluin. A mason group is allowed to talk to eachother during the night. Keep degrading it though cause thats cool. 66% of what you questioned he was told to start his role, but you are right I am a liar
 
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Going to the doctor in the am for tests. Not feeling well at all.

I apologize for my crappy posting day. If I'm not miserable tomorrow, I will do better.
 
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