Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

I did get a result from my investigation. But I think I should wait until reveling such information.
Regarding Noodle, I say you all should stop voting for him for now. There is still tons of time left (34 hours?).
 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

ThunderCat said:
I did get a result from my investigation. But I think I should wait until reveling such information.
Regarding Noodle, I say you all should stop voting for him for now. There is still tons of time left (34 hours?).
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What's with people withholding information? I mean, we're close to 50/50 numbers between mafia/town and multiple people think that it's best to disclose information?

Really, our only advantage at this point is that there are 2 different anti-town factions, and they have to get rid of eachother as well as the townies. I understand that any information stated publically here is going to be seen by both mafia teams, but as long as the information isn't "Hai, xxx is our doctor!" it will also benefit us in terms of the mafia teams competing with each other.



 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Technomancer said:
As for me lurking and not contributing, last I checked, I was about the only one thinking there was a chance we could save Leo if we caught the kidnapper. Everyone else just gave her up for dead. Not very townie if you ask me. And apparently, since TC was able to talk to her, I was probably right. Did she say anything else TC? Give any other clues? Fortunately, we don't have to worry about that this time, and HOPEFULLY, we can string this creep up along-side his mafia cousins SOON.
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Blind optimisim isn't contrubuting. Clinging onto a discussion which is irrelevant because the outcome is unverifiable and unlikely. The good thing to do was to move on and focus on the finding scum among the living players. You did no such thing. All your posts have been in the same vein as: "Fortunately, we don't have to worry about that this time, and HOPEFULLY, we can string this creep up along-side his mafia cousins SOON."

Hopfeully yeah, not because of you. Wishful thinking without action gives us nothing but lines like those.

I get you're trying to stay alive longer than in the last game, but by not contributing you're not likely a kill target because you'll likelier end up being lynched.


 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Originally Posted by Asrrin
I have to disagree with this. Any information helps the town. And since your power can't reveal roles I can't see how it would benefit the mafia.

I am also interested as to your theory about the kidnapper. I promise not to laugh to hard



Ankeli said:
Actually, this post sort of confirms it. He wouldn't be so eager to get the information revealed if he was pro-town, aka. the doctor.

Vote: Asrrin

BA, you live to see another day. ;)
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Ankeli said:
What's with people withholding information? I mean, we're close to 50/50 numbers between mafia/town and multiple people think that it's best to disclose information?

Really, our only advantage at this point is that there are 2 different anti-town factions, and they have to get rid of eachother as well as the townies. I understand that any information stated publically here is going to be seen by both mafia teams, but as long as the information isn't "Hai, xxx is our doctor!" it will also benefit us in terms of the mafia teams competing with each other.
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I am being fishy? just read the posts above both by you. so the reason you are voting for asrring is because he thought calvin should reveal his info, then TC does the same thing and here you are contradicting yourself. Calvins ability doesn't reveal roles yet its more scummy for someone else to ask for info but when you do its A ok? Very weird and confusing and I haven't followed your logic for one second this game

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Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Bad Ash said:
Originally Posted by Asrrin
I have to disagree with this. Any information helps the town. And since your power can't reveal roles I can't see how it would benefit the mafia.

I am also interested as to your theory about the kidnapper. I promise not to laugh to hard








I am being fishy? just read the posts above both by you. so the reason you are voting for asrring is because he thought calvin should reveal his info, then TC does the same thing and here you are contradicting yourself. Calvins ability doesn't reveal roles yet its more scummy for someone else to ask for info but when you do its A ok? Very weird and confusing and I haven't followed your logic for one second this game

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No, I'm voting for Asrrin because he targeted TC on night 2, and there were no deaths due to some sort of save during that night. We know Asrrin isn't the cop, we know he wasn't handing out items, we know he wasn't doing his bus driver thing, what we don't know is whether he's the one that saved TC or the one that attempted to kill TC. Except that his posts are far from what a doctor would post.



 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

And yes, after I read his posts again it's obvious he isn't the doc. It's a chance to nail a mafia with almost full certainty, it's worth blowing his cover if he were the doc by any off chance.

Here's my suggestion, lynch Asrrin today, and if he turns up pro-town, lynch me as a punishment. We've lost at that point anyway.
 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

There's nothing you could post about Goriyani that would help the mafia and hurt the town.

No one should be withholding anything at this point.

If you have information and you don't want to share it, don't mention it or you're pretty much just sowing confusion.
 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Ankeli said:
And yes, after I read his posts again it's obvious he isn't the doc. It's a chance to nail a mafia with almost full certainty, it's worth blowing his cover if he were the doc by any off chance.

Here's my suggestion, lynch Asrrin today, and if he turns up pro-town, lynch me as a punishment. We've lost at that point anyway.
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Or maybe you are trying to get the person you you think the doc is lynched so you're NK can go through successfully tonight? Or are trying desperately to divert attention from locking your scum buddy Noodle?

And as Bad Ash pointed out, you are damning me for asking Cal for info, but scolding TC for refusing to reveal. You can't have your cake and eat it too Ankeli.


 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Ankeli said:
And yes, after I read his posts again it's obvious he isn't the doc. It's a chance to nail a mafia with almost full certainty, it's worth blowing his cover if he were the doc by any off chance.

Here's my suggestion, lynch Asrrin today, and if he turns up pro-town, lynch me as a punishment. We've lost at that point anyway.
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And this nails it in the head that you are scum. Uraj has already posted the fact that there are 5 scum members, and there are 12 people in the game. If you are willing to make a 50/50 shot to kill a town (power role at that!) while we are technically in LyLo, you WANT the town to lose. I flip town if you try to lynch me, and that brings town population down to 6, and an NK brings that down to 5. The town is no longer the majority and they have lost. Only a sum player would suggest lynching someone who they even suspect at being the doc during a LyLo situation.


 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Asrrin said:
You can't have your hat and eat it too Ankeli.
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Fixed that for you.

I investigated Goryani's body today. Seems he was "a" Bodyguard. Could he be the reason for a no kill on night 2 and not someone else? Keep in mind that the story mentioned a group of people walking by the shot person on night two, followed with said person vanishing into the crowd. Maybe Goryani was protect the person who got shot.


 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Asrrin said:
And this nails it in the head that you are scum. Uraj has already posted the fact that there are 5 scum members, and there are 12 people in the game. If you are willing to make a 50/50 shot to kill a town (power role at that!) while we are technically in LyLo, you WANT the town to lose. I flip town if you try to lynch me, and that brings town population down to 6, and an NK brings that down to 5. The town is no longer the majority and they have lost. Only a sum player would suggest lynching someone who they even suspect at being the doc during a LyLo situation.
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That makes no sense. We have to take chances, we have limited information. Hell, I'll go walk the plank before you if people agree to, that's how certain I am of your scumminess. Besides, it's not over even at a 5/5 situation as the mafia groups rival each other. You're just trying to make it sound worse than it is. It's bad, yeah, but not desperate yet. We just have to get our **** together asap and lynch you.

ThunderCat said:
Fixed that for you.

I investigated Goryani's body today. Seems he was "a" Bodyguard. Could he be the reason for a no kill on night 2 and not someone else? Keep in mind that the story mentioned a group of people walking by the shot person on night two, followed with said person vanishing into the crowd. Maybe Goryani was protect the person who got shot.
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More than likely since the story was a bit iffy on doc tells. Which further incriminates Asrrin if he wasn't indeed the one protecting you.

I really don't see how you could go any other way than vote for either me or Asrrin with the information we have presented for us. "Live or die, make your choice."



 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Asrrin said:
And this nails it in the head that you are scum. Uraj has already posted the fact that there are 5 scum members, and there are 12 people in the game. If you are willing to make a 50/50 shot to kill a town (power role at that!) while we are technically in LyLo, you WANT the town to lose. I flip town if you try to lynch me, and that brings town population down to 6, and an NK brings that down to 5. The town is no longer the majority and they have lost. Only a sum player would suggest lynching someone who they even suspect at being the doc during a LyLo situation.
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There have been multiple kills on a night so we know there is either an SK or two mafia groups so we aren't in lylo. With an SK on the loose the mafia can't get a majority to win the game and if it's two scum teams with 2-3 members it's the same.

Regardless a bodyguard isn't a doc and I doubt he is/was the only protective role there is. Cause with the no NK situation Goryani shouldve died there if he protected the NK target. And if survived he's just a doc, so why name his role a bodyguard.

Noodle is as good a lynch as any today. And even if we mislynch today, which I doubt, we have plenty of PR's about to confirm townies and damn mafias.


 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

Sathoris said:
Noodle is as good a lynch as any today. And even if we mislynch today, which I doubt, we have plenty of PR's about to confirm townies and damn mafias.
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As likely as it is that Noodle is mafia as well, I'd really prefer if you'd lynch me or Asrrin today to settle the dispute. Lynching Noodle will tell absolutely nothing because he hasn't reacted to anything, hasn't been involved in any of the information we've been given etc. One of us will provide more information on the people who are willing / won't vote for one of us alone.



 
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Thing is, Noodle is very likely mafia and we need to lynch mafia whenever we can. Between you and Asrrin there's more or less a 50/50 chance of nailing mafia. (Depending who you believe those numbers may change) But we don't have any additional info on this matter. Another night with another round of PR results may change that.

In other words, you two can wait. I just hope Noodle isn't the SK. Cause then we do end up in lylo the next day. But I reckon Zarni is the SK.
 
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How about we ask both Asrrin and Noodle to claim and go from there? If Noodle doesn't answer by the end of the first half of this day phase, we lock him and end it.
 
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

ThunderCat said:
How about we ask both Asrrin and Noodle to claim and go from there? If Noodle doesn't answer by the end of the first half of this day phase, we lock him and end it.
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I doubt we'll get it out of them.

I'll help on the Noodle lynch, but please, bear in mind the information we have about Asrrin for tomorrow. Unless the other mafia team wants to do us a favor and snap him out of the game? It's a good time to start cutting down the competition. ;)



 
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