Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

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At least I tried, no one else did. I don't care anymore, if you guys aren't going to be active on the deadline on a crucial day then what's the point?

If they had a reasoning for staying put, they could/should have said something.
 
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A word to the wise, next time you decide to change wagons to get a lynch. Don't bloody switch 3 minutes prior to the deadline with two votes to go.

Would've been fine had you gotten off Zarni and lynched a practically confirmed mafia member. Much like how you said you would in post #830. What happened to that? Decided lynching a fellow mafia member wouldn't be conducive to you winning the game?

D'you see me target CgB Cal? If you didn't then you should tell us who targeted TC.

I did not watch over CgB last night. I'm fairly certain I stated as such in post #820. And what makes you think I watched over TC instead?

Sathoris;7900322However we need an SK lynch today said:
The way I look at it, the SK is what's keeping the town alive right now. You think Zarni is the serial killer. You may be right, but you have no hard proof. However, the possibility remains that Bad Ash, Ankeli, or ThunderCat is/was the serial killer instead.

Let's assume for the moment the most likely scenario, that we have four townies, three mafia, and one SK. That's 4-3-1. If we mislynch, and Zarni comes up town, then it becomes 3-3-1. Mafia kills the SK (since it's between Ash and Ankeli now, and they know which of those two is mafia); it's now 3-3 and mafia win.

If Zarni is the SK, then mafia kills a townie tonight and it's now 3-3. Mafia win.

Different scenario: TC was the SK. We're instead 5-3 then. Zarni comes up town, mafia NKs a townie, it's 3-3 and mafia wins.

I'm going to bold this right now so it's perfectly clear to everyone.

Lynching Zarniwoop, no matter what his role, will allow mafia to win the game. The only way to stop this is for a successful doctor save. 25% chance of that happening, good luck.

Anyone who votes for Zarniwoop is scum.

Sathoris is scum. Yesterday Asrrin was the most scummy; today, it's Sathoris.

Asrrin is obviously scum, nothing has changed there.

Hell, if I wasn't sure KrazeyIvan was town, I'd call him scum too for his stunt yesterday.
 
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Would've been fine had you gotten off Zarni and lynched a practically confirmed mafia member. Much like how you said you would in post #830. What happened to that? Decided lynching a fellow mafia member wouldn't be conducive to you winning the game?

4 PM on a workday with 3 minutes of switching time happened.

I did not watch over CgB last night. I'm fairly certain I stated as such in post #820. And what makes you think I watched over TC instead?

What you say is different from what you do. I wonder who you watched over then? The only other logical conclusion would be Ivan, but did you really think the mafia would go for Ivan again? Too bad, couldve seen something.

The way I look at it, the SK is what's keeping the town alive right now. You think Zarni is the serial killer. You may be right, but you have no hard proof. However, the possibility remains that Bad Ash, Ankeli, or ThunderCat is/was the serial killer instead.

True, but that gets us nowhere doesn't it. Hell, I could be the SK. Would it deter you from lynching me? I hope it doesn't.

Let's assume for the moment the most likely scenario, that we have four townies, three mafia, and one SK. That's 4-3-1. If we mislynch, and Zarni comes up town, then it becomes 3-3-1. Mafia kills the SK (since it's between Ash and Ankeli now, and they know which of those two is mafia); it's now 3-3 and mafia win.

If Zarni is the SK, then mafia kills a townie tonight and it's now 3-3. Mafia win.

Hmm, the no lynch yesterday changed things, I calculated with a mafia lynch from yesterday.

4-3-1 now. We lynch the SK, who's unconfirmed but has to be hiding inbetween the mafia suspects. An anti-town lynch regardless. Yes it would end up 4-3-0 and we'd need a doc save.

With a mafia lynch today it'll become 4-2-1. The mafia kill town, SK kills town, (has been known to happen) 2-2-1. We've lost the initiative in votes. with 1-1-1 the SK has a chance of winning.

Say they crosskill town after a mafia lynch today, 3-2-1 it'll end up. We can vote to lynch either the SK and hope for a doc save, or lynch mafia and go into the last day before the next even night at 3-1-1. Lynch a bad guy and we win.

Say the SK kills mafia and the mafia town. 3-1-1, we win.

Say they both kill each other. 4-1-0.

Yes I was rash and foolish.

Unvote: Zarni

Different scenario: TC was the SK. We're instead 5-3 then. Zarni comes up town, mafia NKs a townie, it's 3-3 and mafia wins.

Zarni is not town, SK or mafia I'm sure, but not town. And if he does turn up town, we needn't feel ashamed.

Lynching Zarniwoop, no matter what his role, will allow mafia to win the game. The only way to stop this is for a successful doctor save. 25% chance of that happening, good luck.

Your assuming Zarni is town, why is that? What indication did he gave you? I'm up for Asrrin or Ankeli lynch.


 
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Your assuming Zarni is town, why is that? What indication did he gave you? I'm up for Asrrin or Ankeli lynch.

I'm not assuming Zarni is town, I'm assuming he's not mafia. If we want to lynch him on the basis that he's mafia, then we have better targets.

Sath, do you believe KrazeyIvan to be town? Do you have any reason to suspect him of being anything else?



 
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Sath, do you believe KrazeyIvan to be town? Do you have any reason to suspect him of being anything else?

I'm thinking the people he gave his items too all ended up dead without any result from those items. His 'humdinger' item mysteriously vanished. But I have to say I would have to find someting more to consider him as mafia.

So who did you target tonight, Cal? Someone Ivan gave an item to hopefully?

I've got a theory about TC as the SK, but it'll have to wait till tomorrow morning, too busy now.


 
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Sathoris said:
So who did you target tonight, Cal? Someone Ivan gave an item to hopefully?

I watched over TC.

For those non-mafia still interested in winning this game - I saw Ivan and Sathoris visit TC.
 
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Right I gave my forensic kit to TC gutted! So we lost that!

I thought I would be targeted so he would live and hopefully have the item (not sure if Uraj would see it that way mind)

I'm not assuming Zarni is town, I'm assuming he's not mafia. If we want to lynch him on the basis that he's mafia, then we have better targets.

Sath, do you believe KrazeyIvan to be town? Do you have any reason to suspect him of being anything else?

Anyone who thinks I'm anything other than town is not paying attention to the game, Loz and TC who are now dead have received items I built that aid the town right now in my head me and CG are about the only stone cold townies.

The no lynch yesterday on Sath could be due to his mafia colleagues keeping him alive - i.e. vote someone else and leave the vote there!

I say we do today what should have been done yesterday, what did our observers see over night then? Its getting to crunch time

Vote: Sathoris


 
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I'm not assuming Zarni is town, I'm assuming he's not mafia. If we want to lynch him on the basis that he's mafia, then we have better targets.

Sath, do you believe KrazeyIvan to be town? Do you have any reason to suspect him of being anything else?

I'm thinking the people he gave his items too all ended up dead without any result from those items

Right thats just wrong - TC ran my kit on Asrrin for Goryani he came up with not guilt for that kill - as you have visited TC last night - your stone cold (in my eyes up for lynch)


 
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I watched over TC.

For those non-mafia still interested in winning this game - I saw Ivan and Sathoris visit TC.

Right just to get the 3rd in a row!

This is a slam dunk people - get today's vote wrong and your mad!

PS - with this new info and the sheer fact that Sathoris is after Zarni like mad probably (not always mind) indicates he is not mafia he could well be the SK though.


 
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Aha, trying some gambit are we Cal? Though it's no longer a gambit this far into the game, but the point remains. I did not target TC, I targeted CgB. Although I can see why you said I targeted TC. It'll get me lynched for certain. You think I'm mafia and with my so nearly biting the dust yesterday, who's going to be mad at you for getting it wrong?

Nicely done. Wrong.. But nicley done.

You see I would've just started the day with that info, made it somewhat more believable.

Right thats just wrong - TC ran my kit on Asrrin for Goryani he came up with not guilt for that kill - as you have visited TC last night - your stone cold (in my eyes up for lynch)

The equivalent of no result. But I'm not trying to discredit you, I'm on your side. Cal just asked that question to try and fool me to create confusion among the town ranks. Which we don't need.


 
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Vote: Asrrin

I will switch to Sathoris is that's what it takes to get a lynch as it's getting too late to not lynch a mafia, but I'd much prefer to see Asrrin go.
 
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Funny, I was expecting Sathoris to also try the "I was bus-driven" defense.

Also, it's nice to see that nobody learned the lesson from yesterday and we're again starting to split our votes. Mafia team is laughing their butts off at us because they know they're caught, but we're too inept to actually take them out.
 
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Why did you really name me Cal?

Also Ivan, why did you give another kit to TC when he already used one? Surely passing one to someone who's been suspected of mafia could confirm whether they received one or not. You wouldn't run the risk of losing the kit or relying on a 20% chance to target the right hitman.
 
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Vote: Asrrin

I will switch to Sathoris is that's what it takes to get a lynch as it's getting too late to not lynch a mafia, but I'd much prefer to see Asrrin go.

I don't see why anyone else doesn't see this single minded pursuit as being wholely detrimental to the town. He is purposefully trying to split up votes to cause a no lynch AGAIN today. It's plain to see that he has ulterior motives for wanting me lynched, because he has done this over and over throughout the game, and it's always been at the town's expense. He mafia through and through and we need to lynch him today or we lose the game.


 
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Also Ivan, why did you give another kit to TC when he already used one? Surely passing one to someone who's been suspected of mafia could confirm whether they received one or not. You wouldn't run the risk of losing the kit or relying on a 20% chance to target the right hitman.

I passed it again to TC as he used my previous one and its a one time use device so he could recieve another - I was pretty darn sure he was town aligned so I was happy for him to use it sending it to a mafia player (like yourself) would have confirmed if you can receive it or not but you'll not use it if you could or just lie about the result.

I don't see why anyone else doesn't see this single minded pursuit as being wholely detrimental to the town. He is purposefully trying to split up votes to cause a no lynch AGAIN today. It's plain to see that he has ulterior motives for wanting me lynched, because he has done this over and over throughout the game, and it's always been at the town's expense. He mafia through and through and we need to lynch him today or we lose the game.

Asrrin if Ankeli is anything its neutral possibly VI or SK the fact he has the hots for you is not great, and the way I've seen you play before (when townie) you would have sathoris voted straight away on the evidence we have seen today - what you waiting for? Not wanting to vote for your mafia buddie Sathoris?

@ankeli - quit the Asrrin dog pile he can go tomorrow at this rate get on the obvious Sathoris vote, unless your win scenario for being neutral/third party is for causing no lynch's!



 
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@ankeli - quit the Asrrin dog pile he can go tomorrow at this rate get on the obvious Sathoris vote, unless your win scenario for being neutral/third party is for causing no lynch's![/I]

Or, you swap to him. You know.

Like I said, I will switch before the end of the day phase if needed, but I'm not doing so before I see how the rest of the votes split.



 
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Vote: Sathoris

I'm absolutely shocked at our abysmal performance yesterday.

So, if the few of you that added to Sathoris late yesterday feel that strongly, we can do him first then asrrin tomorrow. Then we have one mafia left to find.
 
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Vote: Asrrin

I will switch to Sathoris is that's what it takes to get a lynch as it's getting too late to not lynch a mafia, but I'd much prefer to see Asrrin go.

Tit for tat

Vote: Ankeli

I will switch to Sathoris is that's what it takes to get a lynch as it's getting too late to not lynch a mafia, but I'd much prefer to see Ankeli go



 
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Ankeli is verified mafia in my eyes. Sath is not a sure thing. Yes he's been acting kind of scummy, but not enough for me to want to lynch him over Zarni or Ankeli. We NEED to lynch a guaranteed mafia TODAY. And Ankeli is that mafia. for the sake of the town people, we need a lynch!

Vote: Ankeli
 
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