"Rare Pleasure" Tournament

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Name            Build     	Level	Act/Difficulty		Forum Name	Points
Undead-WingWong Bonemancer        1     1/Norm		        Starving_Poet     0
Rare-Skunk      Bowzon            1     1/Norm			Skunkbelly        0
Inferno         HolyFireadin      1     1/Norm                  SuperSavage       0
LuckyCharm      ConcBarb          1     1/Norm                  OpethAZ           0
Fred            Zealot+           1     1/Norm                  jjscud            0
Jonathan	Hunter Druid	  1	1/Norm			Cattleya	  0
Coraxasn        MA-Sin            1     1/Norm                  tinantlu          0
Unknown         Unkown            0     1/Norm                  Mordalles         0
Elolroel        Charged Boltress  1     1/Norm                  goltar25          0
Melowyn         Spearazon         1     1/Norm                  Quickdeath        0
Icy_Hot         Bowazon           1     1/Norm                  Exarkun           0
CrossCheck	CrossbowZon	  1     1/Norm			Crazy_Bear	  0
Sarah           Javazon           1     1/Norm                  Hrus              0
HCTornNecroI    Bonemancer        1     1/Norm                  Thov              0
Freddie         Lord of Mages     1     1/Norm                  jiansonz          0

I have decided to enter, even before I have the answers to my questions. In the unlikely case that Raise Skeletal Mage is banned, Freddie will be a Golem-/Returnomancer instead.


And, you guessed it :D , a question:
Must I use a rare item if I want to make an Iron Golem?
 
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Name            Build     	Level	Act/Difficulty		Forum Name	Points
Undead-WingWong Bonemancer        1     1/Norm		        Starving_Poet     0
Rare-Skunk      Bowzon            1     1/Norm			Skunkbelly        0
Inferno         HolyFireadin      1     1/Norm                  SuperSavage       0
LuckyCharm      ConcBarb          1     1/Norm                  OpethAZ           0
Fred            Zealot+           1     1/Norm                  jjscud            0
Jonathan	Hunter Druid	  1	1/Norm			Cattleya	  0
Coraxasn        MA-Sin            1     1/Norm                  tinantlu          0
Unknown         Unkown            0     1/Norm                  Mordalles         0
Elolroel        Charged Boltress  1     1/Norm                  goltar25          0
Melowyn         Spearazon         1     1/Norm                  Quickdeath        0
Icy_Hot         Bowazon           1     1/Norm                  Exarkun           0
CrossCheck	CrossbowZon	  1     1/Norm			Crazy_Bear	  0
Sarah           Javazon           1     1/Norm                  Hrus              0
HCTornNecroI    Bonemancer        1     1/Norm                  Thov              0
Freddie         Lord of Mages     1     1/Norm       jiansonz       0
Fang     Poison/Pstrike Zon       1     1/Norm                  phatbrava         0

should be tough...my first HC char, my first tournament
 
Hmm... alright, I'll give it a shot. Never played Hardcore though... I shudder to think of the Ancients...

Well, I have the most experience with sorcs, so I'll go with that. And thus is born Halisstra, a Hydra/Fire Bolter sorc..

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Name            Build     	Level	Act/Difficulty		Forum Name	Points
Undead-WingWong Bonemancer        1     1/Norm		        Starving_Poet     0
Rare-Skunk      Bowzon            1     1/Norm			Skunkbelly        0
Inferno         HolyFireadin      1     1/Norm                  SuperSavage       0
LuckyCharm      ConcBarb          1     1/Norm                  OpethAZ           0
Fred            Zealot+           1     1/Norm                  jjscud            0
Jonathan	Hunter Druid	  1	1/Norm			Cattleya	  0
Coraxasn        MA-Sin            1     1/Norm                  tinantlu          0
Unknown         Unkown            0     1/Norm                  Mordalles         0
Elolroel        Charged Boltress  1     1/Norm                  goltar25          0
Melowyn         Spearazon         1     1/Norm                  Quickdeath        0
Icy_Hot         Bowazon           1     1/Norm                  Exarkun           0
CrossCheck	CrossbowZon	  1     1/Norm			Crazy_Bear	  0
Sarah           Javazon           1     1/Norm                  Hrus              0
HCTornNecroI    Bonemancer        1     1/Norm                  Thov              0
Freddie         Lord of Mages     1     1/Norm                  jiansonz          0
Fang     Poison/Pstrike Zon       1     1/Norm                  phatbrava         0
Halisstra       HydraSorc         1     1/Norm                  Liliel            0
 
phatbrava said:
just one newby question: whats the "guardian status" ?

Its when you defeat hell baal in hardcore mode ie: defeating the entire game in all difficulties without ever dying :thumbsup:

(in my opinion one of the best accomplishments in D2 no matter what the build)
 
Slothman said:
Its when you defeat hell baal in hardcore mode ie: defeating the entire game in all difficulties without ever dying :thumbsup:

(in my opinion one of the best accomplishments in D2 no matter what the build)

does the game give you diff titles after you finish each difficulty when playing HC as when playing SC? ...so Guardian (HC) = Patriarch (SC) ? or is "Guardian" just something you people use for HC?

Note: i've only played SC :)
 
phatbrava said:
does the game give you diff titles after you finish each difficulty when playing HC as when playing SC? ...so Guardian (HC) = Patriarch (SC) ? or is "Guardian" just something you people use for HC?

Note: i've only played SC :)

HC:
Defeat Normal -> Destoyer
Defeat NM -> Conqueror
Defeat Hell -> Guardian


The titles in Classic were different. They were Count/Countess, Duke/Duchess and King/Queen. Much cooler if you ask me...
 
OK, some answers...

1. Skeletal mages are permitted, as is skeleton mastery. Good luck to anyone who tries this one ;) But remember, there are no Revives or normal skeletons allowed.

2. You may not use charges of banned skills from items, and you may not use skills from items that give bonuses to banned skills (i.e., a staff with +2 to Frozen Orb). You may use the item, however, as long as you don't use the banned skill. Items with "Chance to Cast" mods, even for banned skills, are permitted (I don't think these will be much of a factor, given that unique and set items are banned, and CTC mods on rares tend to be weak).

3. Iron Golems must be created from rare items.

GAMBLING CLARIFICATIONS

Their are nine equipment spots on your character, and three on your mercenary. You may equip ONLY ONE gambled item in each of these spots during the life of your character. Once you have equipped a gambled item in a particular slot, you may NEVER equip another gambled item in that same slot. You may, however, replace the gambled item with a non-gambled item. This has several implications:

1. If you fill a weapon slot with a gambled item, you cannot gamble a different type of weapon to get around this rule. For example, I gamble a sweet sword for a paladin, and I equip it. I cannot try to improve my weapon by gambling maces or axes.

2. If you gamble an item, and equip it on your character, and then remove that item for any reason (sell to Charsi, give to merc, etc.), you MAY NOT gamble another item for that slot on your character.

3. If you wear a gambled item, then remove that item and pass it to your mercenary, BOTH your mercenary's and your character's slots are now used up for purposes of gambling. So be careful! Doing this might actually result in you having fewer opportunities to gamble (by wasting the merc's slot).

4. This also means that if your mercenary is *already wearing* a gambled item in a particular slot, you *cannot* take a gambled item off of your character and use it to replace the mercenary's gambled item.

5. If you switch mercenaries (i.e., you have a Rogue, and hire a Might merc), you may gamble for a new weapon for them. However, this is only permitted when the mercenary is from a different class or from a different difficulty level: going from a Might mercenary to a Holy Freeze mercenary does not permit you to gamble a new weapon (this could easily be abused). Going from a Normal Act 2 mercenary to a NM act 2 mercenary, however, would allow you to gamble a new weapon.

6. And as stated before, characters that dual wield have *two* item slots, and can gamble for a weapon to fill each slot. This is only fair, since all other characters have the ability to gamble a shield.

7. To anticipate a question: yes, I am fully aware that it is not possible to gamble certain class-specific items. That's the way the cookie crumbles.

And one other thing... if you wish to change your character build for the tournament, you may do so up to the starting time (7:30 EST Sunday). I realize that the rule clarifications might make some people change their minds.

NOTE: I will re-compile all tournament rules Friday morning, for the sake of clarity, and re-post them all together. After that point, no changes.
 
skunkbelly said:
1. Skeletal mages are permitted, as is skeleton mastery. Good luck to anyone who tries this one ;)

Thanks!
(To quote the assassin in the CVT "I hope I know what I´m doing...")

skunkbelly said:
...and CTC mods on rares tend to be weak.

I agree, but CTC Frost Nova can certainly be useful.

skunkbelly said:
3. Iron Golems must be created from rare items.

Ouch. But it will certainly be interesting to identify metallic rares. Sell, equip or make golem? :D


skunkbelly said:
GAMBLING CLARIFICATIONS

Their are nine equipment spots on your character, and three on your mercenary.

Huh?
In my book, characters have 10-12 spots, depending on what they use.

What about the weapon switch spots?
 
phatbrava said:
so weapon switch doesnt count as 2 diff slots?

Good question. The weapon switch slots DO count as 2 different slots. This means that technically, your character has 11 slots. But think of those switch slots the way you would think about your mercenary's weapon slot: you can only switch a gambled item from one slot to the other if you haven't already used the gamble for the new slot; and if you do switch a gambled item from one slot to the other, you may not equip a second gambled item in the first slot. So once again, moving gambled items around may cause you to lose gambling opportunities.

Here's the worst thing you could do: equip a gambled item in one weapon slot, then move that item to your switch slot, and then move that item again to a merc. That way, you would only gamble one item, but you would use up three gambling slots.


Ring x2
amulet x1
helmet x1
armor x1
gloves x1
boots x1
belt x1
weapon x1
shield x1

Oops... I stand corrected. So it is indeed 12 total items per character, including weapon/shield switch (and 3 or 4 for your merc... 4 slots for act 3 mercenaries).

ALSO, about two-handed weapons vs. weapon/shield arrangements.


1. If you equip a two-handed weapon that you have gambled, it uses up your weapon slot, but not your shield slot. You may still gamble a shield for your shield slot, if you wish (though obviously, to use it, you'll need to discard your two-handed gambled weapon... and in doing so, you will no longer be able to equip any gambled weapons in that weapon slot).

2. A barbarian has more flexibility in their gambling, because they can equip two weapons or a weapon and a shield. However, once a SLOT has been equipped with a gambled weapon or shield, that slot may not be replaced with a second gambled item of any type. So if you start out with a gambled weapon in one slot and a gambled shield in the other, you cannot discard the shield and replace it with a gambled second weapon.

EDIT:

One I forgot to answer: hellforge quest rewards MAY be used to fill sockets in your gear. These are the only non-rare-jewel items that may be used in sockets.

And another one: MPing is *not* allowed. Strictly single-player.

And lastly, on the subject of MPing.... one thing that might make this interesting is a little community trading. So here it is:

1. All players involved in any trade must have living characters in the tournament.

2. During their life, your character may receive up to two rare items through trades. These items may be used in any item slot, on either your character or mercenary.

3. Gambled and crafted items MAY NOT be traded. Imbued items may be traded. Rare jewels may also be traded. Hellforge runes/gems may not be traded.

4. Only rares found or imbued by your character may be traded: you cannot trade unique or set items that you find for someone else's rare items.

5. All trades must be initiated publically in this thread: no secretly announcing items to other players via PM or e-mail, etc.
 
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Name            Build     	Level	Act/Difficulty		Forum Name	Points
Undead-WingWong Bonemancer        1     1/Norm		        Starving_Poet     0
Rare-Skunk      Bowzon            1     1/Norm			Skunkbelly        0
Inferno         HolyFireadin      1     1/Norm                  SuperSavage       0
LuckyCharm      ConcBarb          1     1/Norm                  OpethAZ           0
Fred            Zealot+           1     1/Norm                  jjscud            0
Jonathan	Hunter Druid	  1	1/Norm			Cattleya	  0
Coraxasn        MA-Sin            1     1/Norm                  tinantlu          0
Unknown         Unkown            0     1/Norm                  Mordalles         0
Elolroel        Charged Boltress  1     1/Norm                  goltar25          0
Melowyn         Spearazon         1     1/Norm                  Quickdeath        0
Icy_Hot         Bowazon           1     1/Norm                  Exarkun           0
CrossCheck	CrossbowZon	  1     1/Norm			Crazy_Bear	  0
Sarah           Javazon           1     1/Norm                  Hrus              0
HCTornNecroI    Bonemancer        1     1/Norm                  Thov              0
Freddie         Lord of Mages     1     1/Norm                  jiansonz          0
Slayer          Berserker         1     1/Norm                  Immortal_Slayer   0

I've entered in with Slayer, the Berserking Barbarian.
 
thanks for giving us an extra month. that really gonna help a lot, since ive got very little time till the 18th of may. so ill only start after that.

crazy_bear, nice to see u enter!
 
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Name            Build     	Level	Act/Difficulty		Forum Name	Points
Undead-WingWong Bonemancer        1     1/Norm		        Starving_Poet     0
Rare-Skunk      Bowzon            1     1/Norm			Skunkbelly        0
Inferno         HolyFireadin      1     1/Norm                  SuperSavage       0
LuckyCharm      ConcBarb          1     1/Norm                  OpethAZ           0
Fred            Zealot+           1     1/Norm                  jjscud            0
Jonathan	Hunter Druid	  1	1/Norm			Cattleya	  0
Coraxasn        MA-Sin            1     1/Norm                  tinantlu          0
Unknown         Unkown            0     1/Norm                  Mordalles         0
Elolroel        Charged Boltress  1     1/Norm                  goltar25          0
Melowyn         Spearazon         1     1/Norm                  Quickdeath        0
Icy_Hot         Bowazon           1     1/Norm                  Exarkun           0
CrossCheck	CrossbowZon	  1     1/Norm			Crazy_Bear	  0
Sarah           Javazon           1     1/Norm                  Hrus              0
HCTornNecroI    Bonemancer        1     1/Norm                  Thov              0
Freddie         Lord of Mages     1     1/Norm                  jiansonz          0
Slayer          Berserker         1     1/Norm                  Immortal_Slayer   0
SirStuckup      DS / frenzy       0     1/Norm                  water_moon        0

hhhhm for all that duel weilding barbs have the advatage in gambling, it seems that no one wants a one. Let's change that!
 
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Name            Build     	Level	Act/Difficulty		Forum Name	Points
Undead-WingWong Bonemancer        1     1/Norm		        Starving_Poet     0
Rare-Skunk      Bowzon            1     1/Norm			Skunkbelly        0
Inferno         HolyFireadin      1     1/Norm                  SuperSavage       0
LuckyCharm      ConcBarb          1     1/Norm                  OpethAZ           0
Fred            Zealot+           1     1/Norm                  jjscud            0
Jonathan	Hunter Druid	  1	1/Norm			Cattleya	  0
Coraxasn        MA-Sin            1     1/Norm                  tinantlu          0
Unknown         Unkown            0     1/Norm                  Mordalles         0
Elolroel        Charged Boltress  1     1/Norm                  goltar25          0
Melowyn         Spearazon         1     1/Norm                  Quickdeath        0
Icy_Hot         Bowazon           1     1/Norm                  Exarkun           0
CrossCheck	CrossbowZon	  1     1/Norm			Crazy_Bear	  0
Sarah           Javazon           1     1/Norm                  Hrus              0
HCTornNecroI    Bonemancer        1     1/Norm                  Thov              0
Freddie         Lord of Mages     1     1/Norm                  jiansonz          0
Slayer          Berserker         1     1/Norm                  Immortal_Slayer   0
SirStuckup      DS / frenzy       0     1/Norm                  water_moon        0
Plok            Bear / Shifter    1     1/Norm                  Sint              0

I might aswell enter in a tourney that doesn't last too long ... seems like everyone tries a differnt build (well, almost everyone) so I'll go for a maul/shockwave bear :) it's been a long time since I played one of those (last one was a themed aldurs set one :D )

EDIT: because of the scoring system I give myself an extra rule: ''May only kills quest monsters and random boss packs I encounter.'' I will also play on /p1 for a change :)
 
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Name            Build     	Level	Act/Difficulty		Forum Name	Points
Undead-WingWong Bonemancer        1     1/Norm		        Starving_Poet     0
Rare-Skunk      Bowzon            1     1/Norm			Skunkbelly        0
Inferno         HolyFireadin      1     1/Norm                  SuperSavage       0
LuckyCharm      ConcBarb          1     1/Norm                  OpethAZ           0
Fred            Zealot+           1     1/Norm                  jjscud            0
Jonathan	Hunter Druid	  1	1/Norm			Cattleya	  0
Coraxasn        MA-Sin            1     1/Norm                  tinantlu          0
Unknown         Unkown            0     1/Norm                  Mordalles         0
Elolroel        Charged Boltress  1     1/Norm                  goltar25          0
Melowyn         Spearazon         1     1/Norm                  Quickdeath        0
Icy_Hot         Bowazon           1     1/Norm                  Exarkun           0
CrossCheck	CrossbowZon	  1     1/Norm			Crazy_Bear	  0
Sarah           Javazon           1     1/Norm                  Hrus              0
HCTornNecroI    Bonemancer        1     1/Norm                  Thov              0
Freddie         Lord of Mages     1     1/Norm                  jiansonz          0
Slayer          Berserker         1     1/Norm                  Immortal_Slayer   0
SirStuckup      DS / frenzy       0     1/Norm                  water_moon        0
Plok            Bear / Shifter    1     1/Norm                  Sint              0
Phrozen_Phire   Firezon           1     1/Norm                  skoolbus          0

I'm in too, I will try a Firezon, but might add some cold or lightning, who knows
 
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Name Build 	Level	Act/Difficulty		Forum Name	Points
Undead-WingWong Bonemancer 1 1/Norm		 Starving_Poet 0
Rare-Skunk Bowzon 1 1/Norm			Skunkbelly 0
Inferno HolyFireadin 1 1/Norm SuperSavage 0
LuckyCharm ConcBarb 1 1/Norm OpethAZ 0
Fred Zealot+ 1 1/Norm jjscud 0
Jonathan	Hunter Druid	 1	1/Norm			Cattleya	 0
Coraxasn MA-Sin 1 1/Norm tinantlu 0
Unknown Unkown 0 1/Norm Mordalles 0
Elolroel Charged Boltress 1 1/Norm goltar25 0
Melowyn Spearazon 1 1/Norm Quickdeath 0
Icy_Hot Bowazon 1 1/Norm Exarkun 0
CrossCheck	CrossbowZon	 1 1/Norm			Crazy_Bear	 0
Sarah Javazon 1 1/Norm Hrus 0
HCTornNecroI Bonemancer 1 1/Norm Thov 0
Freddie Lord of Mages 1 1/Norm jiansonz 0
Slayer Berserker 1 1/Norm Immortal_Slayer 0
SirStuckup DS / frenzy 0 1/Norm water_moon 0
Plok Bear / Shifter 1 1/Norm Sint 0
Phrozen_Phire Firezon 1 1/Norm skoolbus 0
DeadRinger Frost Nova/Thunderstormer 1 1/Norm JicamaEater 0
How can I deny this hilarious tournament? Aside from the fact that I can't equip until I find the absolutely perfect pair of rare boots. I'm not really focused on winning (where have we heard THAT before?) I will post even after the time line is up. My character is Deadringer, a Frost Nova oriented sorceress (yes, you may groan at my horrid pun). On the flip side I'll have Thunder Storm (no, I have no idea how bad it is, and don't tell me not to use it!).
 
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Name            Build     	Level	Act/Difficulty		Forum Name	Points
Undead-WingWong Bonemancer        1     1/Norm		        Starving_Poet     0
Rare-Skunk      Bowzon            1     1/Norm			Skunkbelly        0
Inferno         HolyFireadin      1     1/Norm                  SuperSavage       0
LuckyCharm      ConcBarb          1     1/Norm                  OpethAZ           0
Fred            Zealot+           1     1/Norm                  jjscud            0
Jonathan	Hunter Druid	  1	1/Norm			Cattleya	  0
Coraxasn        MA-Sin            1     1/Norm                  tinantlu          0
Unknown         Unkown            0     1/Norm                  Mordalles         0
Elolroel        Charged Boltress  1     1/Norm                  goltar25          0
Melowyn         Spearazon         1     1/Norm                  Quickdeath        0
Icy_Hot         Bowazon           1     1/Norm                  Exarkun           0
CrossCheck	CrossbowZon	  1     1/Norm			Crazy_Bear	  0
Sarah           Javazon           1     1/Norm                  Hrus              0
HCTornNecroI    Bonemancer        1     1/Norm                  Thov              0
Freddie         Lord of Mages     1     1/Norm                  jiansonz          0
Slayer          Berserker         1     1/Norm                  Immortal_Slayer   0
SirStuckup      DS / frenzy       0     1/Norm                  water_moon        0
Plok            Bear / Shifter    1     1/Norm                  Sint              0
Phrozen_Phire   Firezon           1     1/Norm                  skoolbus          0
DeadRinger      F Nova/Tstorm     1     1/Norm                  JicamaEater       0
Pokey_poke      Lightning strike  1     1/Norm                  Shermo            0

I'm in. I fixed up jicamas entry too.
 
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