Questions about Runewords, Auras and Assasins

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Questions about Runewords, Auras and Assasins

1.) If I equip an Act 3 Merc with Phoenix, will I get the Redemption Aura? Or do I have to equip it? I am almost positive the merc would not provide the aura, but still have to ask.

2.) If I make an Auradin, and have Holy Shock Aura, then put on a Dream helm, will one aura cancel the other? Will they combine? What happens in this case?

Also...if I make Fortitude, does the character level matter in getting the life per level mod? I.e would I use my highest character, or would a level one mule work the same? Someone just told me that to do this I needed the highest level character possible.

Forgot my question about Assassins...I have two Bartucs on a Trap. This is the first Assassin I have ever made (in 9+ years of playing!). Would I socket this with Light facets, or is there another better weapon to use? Mind you I am not rich, nor willing to spend the bank on this Sin.
 
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For Q1, if your merc equips phoenix, your merc gets the aura, not you. If you want the redemption for yourself, you have to equip the shield on your char.

For Q2, I believe that you will end with two auras, one with whatever level your char has, and the other with whatever you get from the dream(s). If you have 2 dreams, their level should stack together, but won't stack with your active aura.

For fortitude, it doesn't matter on the level of the character making it. It will always be random.

For weapons, I don't think facet will help you since I think that traps count as minions. For trappers, I think +3 trap claws would be better, although you might want a jade talon for resist if you need it. I still haven't made a trapper yet though so I'm not too sure yet.
 
Re: Questions about Runewords, Auras and Assasins

1.) If I equip an Act 3 Merc with Phoenix, will I get the Redemption Aura? Or do I have to equip it? I am almost positive the merc would not provide the aura, but still have to ask.

2.) If I make an Auradin, and have Holy Shock Aura, then put on a Dream helm, will one aura cancel the other? Will they combine? What happens in this case?

Also...if I make Fortitude, does the character level matter in getting the life per level mod? I.e would I use my highest character, or would a level one mule work the same? Someone just told me that to do this I needed the highest level character possible.

Forgot my question about Assassins...I have two Bartucs on a Trap. This is the first Assassin I have ever made (in 9+ years of playing!). Would I socket this with Light facets, or is there another better weapon to use? Mind you I am not rich, nor willing to spend the bank on this Sin.

Your merc will get Redemption but it will only work for him!

2 Dream runewords, (helm and shield), will stack and give you level 30 Holy Shock. However, if you're already using Holy Shock aura, they will not stack and only the higher one will take effect! For example you have Level 17 Holy Shock and wear Dream helm, your own Holy Shock aura will prevail, making the one from Dream useless. If you wear a Dream shield too, then your Dual Dream level 30 HS will prevail and now your own aura is useless.

The Fortitude bonus is always random regardless of your level or other factors.

Facets do not work with traps (not sure if all traps, but Lightning Sentry is not affected by both mods on Facets. Shock Web and Fire Blast may be different, I am not 100% sure. All other traps do not benefit from facets). Best to get a +3 to +6 range Sentry claw with ias mod on your right hand (left slot, because traps need weapon speed not faster cast rate) and keep a Bartucs or another rare claw (or another +LS claw) on right above boots.


 
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Are you sure about Facet dmg not doing anything to traps? Right now a +1 skill gives/takes about 300dmg (6083 > 6389). If I was to remove my Griffs, I go from 6389 to 5069. That +1 skill removal obviously is not the difference maker, the 20% light damage is. I just got offered this Griffs for cheap, along with a Light facet. Seems to me that Facet % does impact trap damage.

So I would right now think if I socketed both my Bartucs with Light 5%, I would boost another 10% dmg.
 
Re: Questions about Runewords, Auras and Assasins

Are you sure about Facet dmg not doing anything to traps? Right now a +1 skill gives/takes about 300dmg (6083 > 6389). If I was to remove my Griffs, I go from 6389 to 5069. That +1 skill removal obviously is not the difference maker, the 20% light damage is. I just got offered this Griffs for cheap, along with a Light facet. Seems to me that Facet % does impact trap damage.

So I would right now think if I socketed both my Bartucs with Light 5%, I would boost another 10% dmg.

IIRC the damage is displayed but it does not work, its a display bug like many other known ones. I got this information from a lot of wise posters on this same site, and even ingame everyone I met says the same thing, that facets or passive mastery / pierce mods on Griffons do not work with LS. I will have to doublecheck the display error however.


 
Re: Questions about Runewords, Auras and Assasins

IIRC the damage is displayed but it does not work, its a display bug like many other known ones. I got this information from a lot of wise posters on this same site, and even ingame everyone I met says the same thing, that facets or passive mastery / pierce mods on Griffons do not work with LS. I will have to doublecheck the display error however.

I thought +% lightning damage worked but -% enemy resistance didn't work?


 
Re: Questions about Runewords, Auras and Assasins

2 Dream runewords, (helm and shield), will stack and give you level 30 Holy Shock. However, if you're already using Holy Shock aura, they will not stack and only the higher one will take effect! For example you have Level 17 Holy Shock and wear Dream helm, your own Holy Shock aura will prevail, making the one from Dream useless. If you wear a Dream shield too, then your Dual Dream level 30 HS will prevail and now your own aura is useless.

And just a little add to this;
The effect of what ancalagon describes here is the reason why every dream using pally has conviction as its own aura. It lowers the lightning resist (all elemental resists, and defense) of the enemy, so the damage you inflict on the monster will be much higher than should you not use it.
Without calculating, I dare say that the damage dealt will be higher than in the hypothetical case that the 'dream' rw auras stacked with your active aura. Of course, this depends on the monsters' resists. And of course, you could have infinity runeword polearm on your merc. But yeah...
Bottomline is auras from runewords do not stack with active auras, only the highest count. Auras from runewords stack.
And there is little reason for an auradin not to use conviction as main aura.



 
Re: Questions about Runewords, Auras and Assasins

It is confirmed by many players that facets and Griffon do not work with lightning traps. Traps are considered minions, so the + and -lightning do not work. The figures are bugged, it shows the + lightning damage but it doesn't reflect the actual damage. The + and - lightning damage will not work on any kind of trap: charged bolt sentry, lightning sentry, death sentry, wake of fire and wake of inferno. Only Shock web benefits from light facets and Griffon as this is a direct attack from the assassin. Fire blast also works with fire facets as this is also a direct attack from the assassin.
 
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I don't think the auras from each of the dream stack together to make a lvl 30, I've heard multiple times that it makes two separate level 15 auras.

-brick
 
Re: Questions about Runewords, Auras and Assasins

I don't think the auras from each of the dream stack together to make a lvl 30, I've heard multiple times that it makes two separate level 15 auras.

-brick

I'm pretty confident they do stack, at least damage-wise it has the result of a lvl30 aura. At least so I've heard/read almost everywhere.



 
Re: Questions about Runewords, Auras and Assasins

It's pretty easy to test too: the radius of the shocking effect will increase with both items equipped, which would not happen if you just have 2 of the same level aura.
 
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