PvM Gunslinger - Physical Bow/Lightning Java Hybrid

Re: PvM Gunslinger - Physical Bow/Lightning Java Hybrid

Yeah, thread necro ftw!

However for some odd reason I've never even read this guide before :doh:
Usually i make a pure LF zon and a pure strafer, however i think I'm going to try and make a gunslinger with the spare items i have left around.

I have to say this is one of the nicest / best setup guides I've read on these forums, very easy on the eye :).
 
Re: PvM Gunslinger - Physical Bow/Lightning Java Hybrid

Wow this is a beautiful guide.........Jeez man this has had a lot of work put into it............IF only all guides were like this
 
Re: PvM Gunslinger - Physical Bow/Lightning Java Hybrid

Glad you both like it, indeed it was some work to make. I wasn't personally satisfied with my windtitan guide so had to make something better to redeem myself. :cloud9:

Maybe I should consider updating it soon ... with fixes, 1.13 notes, and more about the tele setup I've used ... that javelin ascii art needs to be made too ...
 
Re: PvM Gunslinger - Physical Bow/Lightning Java Hybrid

Nothings really changed for a Gunslinger in 1.13 though, has it?

Except that its a much more useful build, now that rune drop rates have gone up enough to make it worthwhile to have a dedicated Cowhunter/area clearer :)
 
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The only real change is that I no longer have to mention iron maiden as an obstacle for using a melee merc, and maybe some notes on restating. There's of course always some grammatical errors and misspellings to fix too.
 
Re: PvM Gunslinger - Physical Bow/Lightning Java Hybrid

fewer torch procs to drop games with, so it got even better, imo.
 
Re: PvM Gunslinger - Physical Bow/Lightning Java Hybrid

Loving this guide! Found it earlier this week and now have my gunslinger running in later nm. I've decided to take the crossbow route, just always wanted to use a crossbow, but it never made any real sense. Still actually doesn't, but I just had to do it ;) I can't stand faith merc, so I will have to do without the fana-aura. But at least I get a tank, act 2 merc.

Is the CS really needed and effective? I can't figure out how to use it and when. As my ama is kind of low-res glasscanon, I don't dare to walk up to diablo and start poking him with a stick. Can I just pump GA and use it as a boss killer, or is it too slow? Can't remember how effective GA was (been over a year since my last bowa)
 
Re: PvM Gunslinger - Physical Bow/Lightning Java Hybrid

GA is really inferior to CS for killing bosses, and that should be your main use it after all. CS also helps against the big high life monsters such as venom lords.

As I play mine I'd highly recommended to get enough life/res to safely stand close to such targets to CS when preferable, even if you have to sacrifice some bow damage to do it. However, if you prefer the ranged style you can of course stay away and use GA, you'll just be *a lot* slower against bosses.
 
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actually for Diablo you WANT to stand in melee range, as it makes you immune to his dreaded lightning hose...turns it from "kills you if you dont chug a purple in time" to "3 seconds of free hits".

If you dont know how to use CS to its full potential, then you dont know how to play a hybrid zon right, its really half the point of the build :)
 
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I'm learning :D I dumped my skill points into CS, and it works, just like you promised. Really speeds up the process. No idea why LF and CS actually work, as the dmg isn't all that high. But I'm not going to worry my head with that, just keep throwing/poking that lightning (and ofc gunning down monsters with my buriza :) )

Now off to buy a torch and into hell!
 
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I am currently trying to get the Lightning Facets for my girlfriend's Gunslinger and am thinking about the shield. What are some options I should be going for? I guess it would be Jeweler's Monarch of something, but what are some good possible suffixes, and how should I go about getting these shields? The only way I can think of is gambling, but am not even sure about it.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,
-=ViC
 
Re: PvM Gunslinger - Physical Bow/Lightning Java Hybrid

In my opinion good suffixes would be life or fhr, but getting one is a pain as even "jeweler's monarchs" are rare enough without trying to get a good suffix on top.

I'd advise against planing one into the build unless you've got one stored away already, or if you've got the founds to trade for one (may be really expensive).
 
Re: PvM Gunslinger - Physical Bow/Lightning Java Hybrid

jlofman said:
No idea why LF and CS actually work, as the dmg isn't all that high.
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The damage listed for LF and CS is for each individual bolt. So if your LF triggers 5 times, then everyone on screen gets 5 bolts fired off at them, guaranteeing at least 5x the listed damage - and those bolts can hit more than one monster, if the angle is right, meaning you're looking at potentially huge multipliers on its relatively modest base damage.

Likewise, each time you use CS, you're letting off (IIRC) 9 bolts with the listed damage, so if all of those hit, you can multiply that listed damage by 9.


 
Re: PvM Gunslinger - Physical Bow/Lightning Java Hybrid

droid said:
The damage listed for LF and CS is for each individual bolt. So if your LF triggers 5 times, then everyone on screen gets 5 bolts fired off at them, guaranteeing at least 5x the listed damage - and those bolts can hit more than one monster, if the angle is right, meaning you're looking at potentially huge multipliers on its relatively modest base damage.

Likewise, each time you use CS, you're letting off (IIRC) 9 bolts with the listed damage, so if all of those hit, you can multiply that listed damage by 9.
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Thanks, I figured it had to be something like that. What I also find strange, is that against single LI monsters, I think Titans works better than strafe, even though the physical dmg is lower, but that might just be something I imagined in my own head.

Btw, everyone probably knows it, but the crossbow route sucks.. :alright:
Some how I thought I knew better and that crossbows are a lost art and everyone just forgot how great they are. well they aren't :alright: I know the guide never suggested it to be a good idea, but I can confirm, that it isn't. Switched to a WF, much nicer to play again.


 
Re: PvM Gunslinger - Physical Bow/Lightning Java Hybrid

Hello! do you still have that demonstration video uploaded in anywhere? id really like to see how it handled /players 8.
Awesome guide btw!:thumbup:
 
Re: PvM Gunslinger - Physical Bow/Lightning Java Hybrid

I don't but I guess I can record another and upload it to youtube, I'll try doing that this weekend.


Edit:
Here's a video:
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Re: PvM Gunslinger - Physical Bow/Lightning Java Hybrid

Awesome guide! Really!

I'll be reading it many times to prepare my next Zon :thumbup:
 
Re: PvM Gunslinger - Physical Bow/Lightning Java Hybrid

Thanks for the kind words.

hmm, guess it's time for another try at making the javelin ascii art ...


Edit: Javelin ascii art now up ...

Was pretty much impossible to get enough details on the javelin heads in a "stack" drawing, and this resulted in me not liking what I've drawn earlier. Especially diagonal javelins are impossible to get right in such a low ascii resolution.

Before I also tried making a zoom in on the heads, which gave the right detail but didn't clearly show that it was the tip of a javelin ...

This time around I tried combining the two, using colors to link the two art segments together. I do believe I've managed to make it clear how the images are matched, and I'm fairly satisfied with the result. The zoom could probably get a bit more detail, but javelin heads aren't really that fancy to begin with, if I add to much it starts looking like a spearhead instead ...
 
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