Pits or Cows?

dutes

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Pits or Cows?

Hey,
If I'm hunting for useful elite white/greys in 1.12 am I better off running Hell Cows or Hell Pit? I have a whirly barb that can run at 0mf and a Light sorc who runs at max effectiveness with ~100 mf, the light sorc runs the cows (to prevent killing the king) and the whirly barb runs the pit. The barb can run at /players7 while the light sorc runs at /players5. Times at that players setting on a time/kills ratio is probably in favour of the light sorc, but only marginally.

Primary items I'm hunting for are Monarch's (for spirit), crystal swords (for spirit), eth Elite Insight and Obedience bases, and elite armour and weapon bases.

Thanks guys
 
Re: Pits or Cows?

The area where you can get the most drops from normal monsters in a given amount of time is most efficient. :). Whichever you find fun also plays a factor of course, as well as possibly what kind of peripheral drops you might like to see. Don't get bogged down on the MF totals though. Adding more MF doesn't have all that huge of an effect on the "ability" for socketables to drop (although I think superior is a different story?).
 
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Don't get bogged down on the MF totals though. Adding more MF doesn't have all that huge of an effect on the "ability" for socketables to drop (although I think superior is a different story?).

After I dropped the Skullder's off of my cow runner (from ~125 MF down to 0), I would estimate the number of grey items per run went up by 200-300% (on /players7). And I don't think that's an exaggeration - it was a stunning change.

Otherwise, it depends a little on which socketables you seek. Cows have lowered chances at high TC-drops, so if you're after Archon Plates & other TC84+ items, it might actually be better to go with the Pits. But for the most part, Nagisa's point about speed > all would apply.



 
Re: Pits or Cows?

According to Hrus' MF guide,

With 200 MF You get only 8% decrease in number of white (grey) items from regular monsters, while you have 2.11 x better chance for unique items (from all monsters)!

*shrug* I honestly didn't read through the whole thing way back when, so maybe I missed some important detail there, but my hybridzon does /p3 CS runs with ~ 100 MF and still sees a fair number of white/grey items, although your experience could always be different of course.
 
Re: Pits or Cows?

Keep an eye out for socketable broad swords--they seem to drop more frequently than crystal swords, and can have enough sockets for Insight.

I think MF just increases the chance that an item will drop as magic, rare, set, or unique; so if you're only looking for socketables, then less MF is actually better. Personally I don't want to lose out on the chance to find good S/U's, so I run MFing targets with decent MF and enjoy the decent socketables (which do still drop) as a nice bonus. Actually I found an eth 4os Small Crescent on a char with over 300 MF today, which is going to make it really hard to keep waiting for an eth 4os beserker axe for 'Oath'. :p
 
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I'd say to look at your longer term goals to sway your choice. If you're hunting for grail items, you should stick to the pits... assuming you have (or have no interest in) the cow set. The items you describe aren't "make or break" items... just stuff that's nice to have. They're bound to turn up sooner or later, if you stick to a longer term goal.
 
Re: Pits or Cows?

Grey and white items are best to find with higher players setting and cows on p7 or p8 seems terrible hard for me so my advice is pit which is much easier :)
 
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