BobTheWarrior
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Vote: Crowd Control
If he didn't write that, someone with a very similar style did.
If he didn't write that, someone with a very similar style did.
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OT: Mafia game
- Thread starter Aman
- Start date
vorstelman
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I'm not a he.
sorry about that, i recall reading somewhere you weren't but i didn't realy think of it :fortuneteller:
@ Vorstelman - np. I only really get narky if I've met someone in the flesh and they get it wrong.
@Bob - I can see where you are coming from but there's typos in that note. Intentional? Aman's fault? Hmmmm. Interesting. But I'll leave my vote where it is for now.
Aman you want to clear up the syntax question?
@Bob - I can see where you are coming from but there's typos in that note. Intentional? Aman's fault? Hmmmm. Interesting. But I'll leave my vote where it is for now.
Aman you want to clear up the syntax question?
As you are yourself. The difference between you and Orphan being that he moderates the Community Forum whilst you control the SPF. That could be an argument for or against either of you.
I was looking to see how you'd react, indeed. This isn't enough to get a read on it's own though, at least not one I'd trust to any sort of degree.
However it was interesting to see how Hey jumped on board, without giving any sort of reason and also saying it was "quite apparent". Was that merely playing the same game I was, or did Hey see an opportunity to jump on board a lynching without attracting too much attention?
I didn't anticipate Ray joining in as well though. After all he had a subsequent post over an hour after I voted, and surely must have seen my vote by that time. Then he suggests he's seen where I was going with that vote. Now, unless he saw that I was looking to see who would be eager to start a lynch train and decided to play along with that, it seems he missed his guess. Interesting in itself.
Now, for my part. Sorry about that, Zhao, but I wanted to vote for someone early on to help gauge reactions. I wanted to go with someone who hadn't really posted much yet as well (encouraging active posting or just an arbitrary design choice?), and it came down to yourself and Thyiad. Then I chose you based on the fact you might even be responsible for my early death in the last round we played.
I have no solid reason to suspect Zhao_Yue,
Unvote: Zhao_Yue
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That was going to be my original message. I'd been searching the forum though for SPF posts by Hey (I know Ray is one of the SPF crowd but I was unsure how much of an SP'er Hey is), and came back to the CF to see more posts in this thread. And the overall sense is: "Oh dear". My responses to posts after #27:
#28 Liquid_Evil
You're voting for the main lynch train, which is consistent with how you play when you don't have a good reason not to suspect the target. But your reasoning for voting Zhao doesn't just include that. Sure, you touch on the need to get a lynch each day, but we're barely an 8th through the first day here. Why the rush?
Secondly, your additional reasons for voting Zhao are because he tends to provide a lot of analysis on the events taking place. So you're voting against someone because they can be relied upon to provide a lot of information for the town. I'm not saying that info will definitely be good or accurate info, but to deny the town it because it could be harmful is a mistake.
#29 IntelligentX
Not much to say here. You're following the crowd, from your own mouth. I had no basis in fact when I originally voted for Zhao. Everyone else is just blindly following because other people are voting. Does that make you comfortable? Does that give you confidence that we're lynching a bad guy here? What's your view on this situation and can you give me some reasoning as to why Zhao should be lynched?
#31 Puresummon
The first part of your post says you think Zhao could be being framed. You'd like to see some more discussion. Then you attempt to vote for Zhao anyway. That doesn't fit at all. Oh, and a vote normally needs the Vote: prefixed.
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Wandered off and had a chat for a bit. Returned to see a few more posts. Seems to be mainly a conversation between Thy and Bob about the previous game and the style of one of the killers. I don't have the time to have a read through the CF games where Crowd Control played, but I'll try and remember to do so tomorrow.
Not sure about Vorstelman's reasons for voting for Thy.
Anyways, that's me done for tonight. I need sleep before work tomorrow, should be home by 8pm GMT. Have a good day. Aman, note my unvote of Zhao in your counting.
Since I know your hunch is wrong, should I deduce you are a townie trying to get a reaction from me or an anti-town person trying to get me lynched?
I was looking to see how you'd react, indeed. This isn't enough to get a read on it's own though, at least not one I'd trust to any sort of degree.
However it was interesting to see how Hey jumped on board, without giving any sort of reason and also saying it was "quite apparent". Was that merely playing the same game I was, or did Hey see an opportunity to jump on board a lynching without attracting too much attention?
I didn't anticipate Ray joining in as well though. After all he had a subsequent post over an hour after I voted, and surely must have seen my vote by that time. Then he suggests he's seen where I was going with that vote. Now, unless he saw that I was looking to see who would be eager to start a lynch train and decided to play along with that, it seems he missed his guess. Interesting in itself.
Now, for my part. Sorry about that, Zhao, but I wanted to vote for someone early on to help gauge reactions. I wanted to go with someone who hadn't really posted much yet as well (encouraging active posting or just an arbitrary design choice?), and it came down to yourself and Thyiad. Then I chose you based on the fact you might even be responsible for my early death in the last round we played.
I have no solid reason to suspect Zhao_Yue,
Unvote: Zhao_Yue
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That was going to be my original message. I'd been searching the forum though for SPF posts by Hey (I know Ray is one of the SPF crowd but I was unsure how much of an SP'er Hey is), and came back to the CF to see more posts in this thread. And the overall sense is: "Oh dear". My responses to posts after #27:
#28 Liquid_Evil
You're voting for the main lynch train, which is consistent with how you play when you don't have a good reason not to suspect the target. But your reasoning for voting Zhao doesn't just include that. Sure, you touch on the need to get a lynch each day, but we're barely an 8th through the first day here. Why the rush?
Secondly, your additional reasons for voting Zhao are because he tends to provide a lot of analysis on the events taking place. So you're voting against someone because they can be relied upon to provide a lot of information for the town. I'm not saying that info will definitely be good or accurate info, but to deny the town it because it could be harmful is a mistake.
#29 IntelligentX
Not much to say here. You're following the crowd, from your own mouth. I had no basis in fact when I originally voted for Zhao. Everyone else is just blindly following because other people are voting. Does that make you comfortable? Does that give you confidence that we're lynching a bad guy here? What's your view on this situation and can you give me some reasoning as to why Zhao should be lynched?
#31 Puresummon
The first part of your post says you think Zhao could be being framed. You'd like to see some more discussion. Then you attempt to vote for Zhao anyway. That doesn't fit at all. Oh, and a vote normally needs the Vote: prefixed.
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Wandered off and had a chat for a bit. Returned to see a few more posts. Seems to be mainly a conversation between Thy and Bob about the previous game and the style of one of the killers. I don't have the time to have a read through the CF games where Crowd Control played, but I'll try and remember to do so tomorrow.
Not sure about Vorstelman's reasons for voting for Thy.
Anyways, that's me done for tonight. I need sleep before work tomorrow, should be home by 8pm GMT. Have a good day. Aman, note my unvote of Zhao in your counting.
As you are yourself. The difference between you and Orphan being that he moderates the Community Forum whilst you control the SPF. That could be an argument for or against either of you.
This was directed at Thyiad's post #27, "They're both mods", when explaining why she felt Orphan was behind Gorny's death. Somewhat redundant now as the point has been made while I was typing my monster, but I can't change it now due to the no-edit rule.
All apologies.
Yeah, it was very odd on how my vote wagon grew so quickly with people just voting for little or no reasoning. I wouldn't be surprise if 1 or 2 mafia slipped in there unnoticed.
I'm surprised at Liquid because I'm familar with his playstyle. I would have expected him to analyze my vote wagon. I know he believes in getting the lynch, but like you said Sitro, casting his vote so early with not much to go on is unusual.
I'm surprised at Liquid because I'm familar with his playstyle. I would have expected him to analyze my vote wagon. I know he believes in getting the lynch, but like you said Sitro, casting his vote so early with not much to go on is unusual.
Puresummon
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I think maybe my prior post was unclear. When I said it could be a smokescreen I meant that Zhao could have written his own name on the note. After thinking about it and reading some more discussion, I realize I may have been a bit hasty. I am not convinced yet that Zhao did not write the note, but forty-eight hours is a long time and much can happen.The first part of your post says you think Zhao could be being framed.
Also, I do not know if my first vote was counted or not since I did not insert vote: (thanks for pointing that out to me). Either way, just in case it was counted:
Unvote: Zhao_Yue
Ray Patean
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SiTro: I guess you're right. I thought you might've intuitive enough to pick up what I saw when I read that Gorny was killed.
Unvote: Zhao
We still have quite a bit of time, no need to rush into this one.
Unvote: Zhao
We still have quite a bit of time, no need to rush into this one.
Ray Patean
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Edit to the above: *might've been*
SiTro: I guess you're right. I thought you might've intuitive enough to pick up what I saw when I read that Gorny was killed.
And what was that? More information helps the town, not less.
None of the votes cast for you have satisfactory reasoning behind them to my mind. Disturbing.
Still, it's very early in the game so there's not much reasoning people could have at this stage anyway.
Soylentred
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I interpreted the note differently- not to be an indication of possible retribution against Zhao but as saying Zhao is the same type of target as Gorny. Being at night this should be a mafia kill. Murder Inc is code for mafia. So they will threaten Zhao because they as a conspiring group know Zhao is a townie in the same way they knew Gorny was a townie. The mafia conspire to kill the townies together - kill Gorny and our next target is Zhao.
Hmmm makes sense.
or
Imply Zhao is the mafia's next target as a smokescreen to throw our suspicions off him.
Not voting to lynch Zhao yet.
Hmmm makes sense.
or
Imply Zhao is the mafia's next target as a smokescreen to throw our suspicions off him.
Not voting to lynch Zhao yet.
Still, it's very early in the game so there's not much reasoning people could have at this stage anyway.
To have so many people quickly bandwagon like that is suspicious though. 5 very hasty townies?
Now that I think about it, I don't really remember why I voted him, but I'll keep my vote on him till I find a "better suited" person for my vote ^.^.
So you don't think that reasoning is needed behind your vote. You'll just lynch whomever is convienient for you?
So you don't think that reasoning is needed behind your vote. You'll just lynch whomever is convienient for you?
No, I won't. anyways, since I'm probably not gonna be on as much from now till next "Day":
Unvote Zhao_Yue
Soylentred
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If they can get us to lynch Zhao they have us working for them.
It is the killer's note why would'nt they use it to use us to target their next victim?
I refuse to be a pawn in their dirty machinations.
It is the killer's note why would'nt they use it to use us to target their next victim?
I refuse to be a pawn in their dirty machinations.
