necro runner suggestions?

[elevenlang]

necro runner suggestions?

I am trying to build a necro with full necro set.
I hope that it can run the WSK and baal at p8 at around lvl 85-90.
I already have a skelli build, so this build I want to focus on poison/Bone and some curses.

I can't decide between poison or bone build
any suggestions?

 

[Sass]

Re: necro runner suggestions?

full trangs helps alot on the poison side, and a much different set-up helps out the bone side.

With a fully decked out nova and Lower res, I'm sure it can do a baal, but I'm not so sure on the 8 players department. If it can, I can't for see it with any speed, not with that many.

 

[Quickdeath]

Re: necro runner suggestions?

First, the Corpse Explosion is one of the most effective weapons a necro has, especially for killing with speed, but it is really only effective at /players1. For this reason, I tend to play my Necros at /p1 in Hell difficulty.

A Bone necro requires lots of IAS, mana and many skills points - but I cannot imagine them playing the last few acts of Hell difficulty at /p8 -they would be very slow.

I've never really made the poison necros - so no comment on those.

My necro runner suggestion is: make a Sorc runner!

 

[KillaMike]

Re: necro runner suggestions?

i d suggest getting posion nova + skellie hybrid. with trang you got skellies as meet shield, you got poison nova as main killing skill, and fire wall when you meet with poison immune. not to mention that 1pt CE is good enough ( not perfect ) to help your killing speed.


but sure, you ll be able to run on p8 baal, through killing baal will be...... slow .............

 

[Sass]

Re: necro runner suggestions?

First, the Corpse Explosion is one of the most effective weapons a necro has, especially for killing with speed, but it is really only effective at /players1. For this reason, I tend to play my Necros at /p1 in Hell difficulty.

A Bone necro requires lots of IAS, mana and many skills points - but I cannot imagine them playing the last few acts of Hell difficulty at /p8 -they would be very slow.

I've never really made the poison necros - so no comment on those.

My necro runner suggestion is: make a Sorc runner!

you mean FCR right?

 

[snickersnack]

Re: necro runner suggestions?

My trang's poison necro is still in Act5 NM. Level 73.

Amplify Damage: 1/3
Dim Vision: 1/3
Weaken: 1/3
Iron Maiden: 1/3
Terror: 1/3
Confuse: 0/0
Life Tap: 1/3
Attract: 0/0
Decrepify: 1/3
Lower Resist: 1/3

Teeth: 1/10
Bone Armor: 1/13
Poison Dagger: 19/28
Corpse Explosion: 1/10
Bone Wall: 0/0
Poison Explosion: 20/31
Bone Spear: 0/7
Bone Prison: 0/0
Poison Nova: 20/32
Bone Spirit: 0/0

Skeleton Mastery: 1/7
Raise Skeleton: 1/3
Clay Golem: 1/3
Golem Mastery: 1/3
Raise Skeletal Mage: 1/3
Blood Golem: 1/3
Summon Resist: 1/3
Iron Golem: 1/3
Fire Golem: 1/3
Revive: 1/6

He uses full trangs', white (in a +3 PN, +3 rev wand), +3 PnB ammy, one fungal skiller.

Firewall+LowerResist kills Poison immunes pretty fast at /players8 in act5 NM, so it should work fairly well in act1 hell at /p1. If you use +allSkills gear (I use none), your fire wall/mastery levels will be higher.

 

[sirpoopsalot]

Re: necro runner suggestions?

I hope that it can run the WSK and baal at p8 at around lvl 85-90.

I think the biggest problem with this idea is that necro's skills just don't match up particularly well for the task - at least, they don't match up that well on /players8.

For example, CorpseExplosion is super-powerful on /players1, so all you really need is the ability to get that first corpse quickly (not that hard on /players1, but a little more difficult on /players8). But even if you can get a quick corpse or two on p8, CorpseExplosion's damage doesn't scale so it's relegated to more of a supplimental-damage skill anyways - you'll need something else strong enough to make corpses fairly well.

Likewise, in WSK you'll be facing poison immunes quite regularly, so your kill speed with those skills will slow quite a bit (at times). Sure you can use the LR curse to break most/all of those poison immunities, and items like Tal's Set, Death's Web and Rainbow Facets mean you can do ok (or better) against what's left... but on /players8 monsters have such high life that with the way poison works, once again, you won't be an especially quick killer.

After that there's the bone skills - but if you plug some numbers into a skills calculator you'll see that you're looking at 3-4k damage from your main spells, assuming you have pretty strong gear. On /players8, that low of damage really isn't going to mow monsters down very well.

So, aside from teleporting/minion-stacking, I don't really see how you'll get your damage numbers up to be up to the task of handling /players8 at a reasonable speed.

One of the SPFers took a summon/CE necro to level 99, and he was doing ~4 minute Baal runs on /players8 with about the best gear imaginable. And I think a non-teleporting/non-summoner will be even slower. But even if you're optimistic and plan on having that 4 minutes as your baseline speed with the necro, the fastest runners from most other classes are still about 60-90 seconds faster per run.


If you're just looking to make a casual and fun-to-play runner, then I think it could work well enough - just pick whichever poison/bone build seems more appealing to you. You might not be fast about it, but you might find it very enjoyable - and 'enjoyable' is a pretty important thing to keep in mind too (this being a game and all ).

 

[KillaMike]

Re: necro runner suggestions?

if i might have a word to say, i think you should trade your trang set, and get tal rasha set, and go dual element build. she should be faster at killing monsters on p8 then necro with psn nova. but thats my thinking, because i am sorc obsess.

 

[elevenlang]

Re: necro runner suggestions?

thanks for everyone

My plan is having seven set item players. Now I have got six sets except the amazon'bow. I have make a skelly before and at 88 now. I make that long before I got the trang set. I feel it is kind of slow in p8. so I try to make one from the start. I already have a blova with tal set at lvl 91. a WW barb with IK at 92. both are faster than the skelly.

I just post this one to find if any stronger build for necro on p8. now I probably make a poison necro and see how it goes