MFO Summer 2012 Meet The Olympians [by Fabian]

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This tournament has already ended. It was originally posted by @Fabian on Aug 28, 2012.
(link to original thread on diabloii.net)



As is customary after a good MFO, use this thread to post about the character you used for this year's MFO.

I played my same old Berserk Pitbarb, but with some new tweaks and toys:

Stats

Berserker (clvl 94)
Strength 134 (243)
Dexterity 136 (136)
Vitality 285 (295)
Life 1497 (2399)
AR 13779
IAS 43 (9 fpa)
FCR 105
Hork 56% (slvl 33)
MF 810 (kill) 660 (hork)
Run Time (Pit p1) 65s


Skills

Berserk 20 (30)
Sword Mastery 20 (27)
Find Item 20 (33)
Howl 20 (30)
Battle Orders 1 (11)
Battle Command 1 (10)
Shout 15
Natural Resistance, Increased Speed, Prereqs 1


Equipment

Weapon: +400 Grief PB / IstIstIstIstIstIst PB (180)
Switch: HoTO / Ist Wizardspike (30)
Armor: Enigma (94)
Amulet: 2Barb/16FCR/21MF Craft (21)
Helm: IstIstCham +2Barb/+3Berserk/+3Find Item 1.07 Barb Helm (50)
Gloves: Chance Guards (40)
Belt: Goldwrap (30)
Boots: War Traveler (50)
Ring 1: 98AR/3LL/14str/24life/2MDR/39MF 1.07 Craft (39)
Ring 2: 119AR/6LL/15str/23life/38MF 1.07 Craft (38)


Charms
Code:
Gheed's
3/20/7
3/20/7
3/20/7
3/18/7
3/17/7
3/17/7
3/15/7
3/13/7
3/11/7
2/19/7
2/19/7
2/17/7
2/12/7
1/16/7
1/12/7
3/19/6
3/15/6
3/15/6 Fine SCs of Good Luck
36/7
34/7
33/7
32/7
31/7
30/7 Steel SCs of Good Luck
24/7
24/7
23/7
23/7
20/7
18/7
18/7
18/7
17/7 Iron SCs of Good Luck


Misc

I played for 30½ hours, did 1620 p1 Pit runs with a 65 second run average, finding 20 TC87s. I think I got unlucky when it comes to quantity of TC87s/haul pic worthy drops, but certainly very lucky when it comes to quality. More details here.


Haul Pic:

Secondary boring haul pic:

The character is fragile, because he's built that way, but extremely efficient at finding Uniques. I've improved him steadily since introducing him in the Winter 2011 MFO (run time was 76 seconds back then, 11fpa, less hork, less MF etc), and at 810 MF I think I've reached the highest MF breakpoint that's practically reasonable. The next one, 828 MF, would require an essentially unattainable 2/15+/~35 MF crafted amulet, among other things.

The Barb Helm allows me to reach 56% hork rather than the much more reasonable 55%, but it comes at a pretty high cost. Losing that much life from a Cham'd 1.07 Shako means a lot less Strength to compensate, and even though the theory is that the Barb Helm allows for a higher "ceiling" in efficiency (56>55), it might be that the loss in DPS is significant enough to make it a bad choice. When respeccing for this MFO, I put his life at 2400, which resulted in too little Strength, and for the next time I play him seriously, I would respec down to maybe 2200 and hope it would lead to much fewer bosses needing 2 hits to die. I will also try to make a serious effort of getting him a few more levels, which could only help both with safety and with strength. I'm sure he's got another second or two of run time to shave off from being better built, and probably a second or two more from being better played, and definitely a second or two more from having a computer that doesn't suck for Diablo playing. So, there's always room for improvement! He's pretty damn sick as he is, though.
 
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Make a video with him please.:p
Koala,

From my original thread on him last year, there's this video. It's outdated when it comes to equipment, strategy, MF, hork%, efficiency, hardware, etc, but it's all I got for the time being, and it's pretty much close enough I guess. After the MFO, he's been de-equipped and respecced for some Baal running, but when/if I get back to running him (next MFO?) I'll look into making an updated video.
 
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Originally posted by: @NagisaFurukawa


I played with a Gunslinger. She had an insane amount of help from Team Kittens!!! and others with her gear, but let's just say it's been only around a month since I restarted.

[highlight]Stats[/highlight]
Javelin // Bow

FCR: 59 // 25 (slow // slower)
MF: 280

Lightning Fury: 1-1877 (10 FPA)
Charged Strike: 1-4389 (8 FPA)
Jab: 1150-2643 (5.3 FPA)
Multiple Shot: 668-3223 (8 FPA)
Strafe: 702-3407 (5/3+5)
Guided Arrow: 924-4481 (8 FPA)

Run Times (/p7): 1:22 (samples on a shorter map)

[highlight]Skills[/highlight]
Lightning Fury: 20 (30)
Charged Strike: 20 (30)
Synergies: ~ 40 points

Multiple Shot: 4 (13)
Strafe: 3 (12)
Critical Strike : 6 (11), 58% on bow switch

Pierce: 1 (9), 69% on javelin switch
Dodge/Avoid: 1 (9/6), 46%/54% on javelin switch, 40%/48% on bow switch
Decoy: 1

[highlight]Equipment[/highlight]
Javelin: Titan's Revenge (186/9, ethereal, upgraded)
Shield: 'Spirit' Monarch
Bow: 'Faith' Grand Matron Bow (15/1)
Helm: Griffon's Eye (+10/-16/15 IAS)
Armor: 'Enigma' Mage Plate
Gloves: 1.07 Laying of Hands
Belt: Razortail
Boots: War Traveler (49 MF)
Amulet: Highlord's Wrath (36 DS)
Ring 1: Raven Frost (244/20)
Ring 2: 'Stone Spiral': 4 ML, 4 LL, 2 STR, 25 Life, 55 Mana

Charms: 135 MF, +1 Bow, 64 Maximum Damage, 165 Life, 117 Mana

[highlight]Misc[/highlight]
3775 runs over ** hours. Found nothing worthwhile, but it was entertaining nonetheless.




This character would probably make Fabian sick. :badteeth: Very poorly optimized, but that's what happens when you're just trying to scrape together a runner from scratch in a few weeks. Gunslinger is my favorite character, so that's why I chose this particular build. Also, I received 'Faith' and many other useful things from frozzzen and company to make things much easier.

The run times are very slow, but not so much when you consider it's (1) on /players 7 because I like experience and runes, and (2) she doesn't use/have a single javelin skiller or (more importantly) 'Infinity'. She's also extremely fragile, in case the initial screenshots didn't already make this clear. A careless LF into a pair of Cold Enchanted bosses (or a single Cold Enchanted who felt like going out with a double shot) almost always equated to death. Heck, scoring a critical hit against a Cold Enchanted/Lightning Enchanted pack often led to death, what with those nasty invisible novas. Between that and the constant skill switching, runs were actually quite entertaining, albeit a bit stressful/draining.

As far as actually optimizing her, she'd want 'Infinity' and a respec into a much more pure lightning build. I have a 1.10s 'Call to Arms' Matriarchal Bow waiting in the wing for that particular moment (prebuff and five point bow switch for helping the moron kill nasty unbreakable bosses, since I just can't stand leaving something behind). That kind of build would also open the door for placing much more MF into her gear and inventory, and it'd also mean more vitality/resistances. >_<;;

She tried two different maps (and a bit of CS for occasional downtime while replenishing javelins) over the course of the competition. Her killspeed is relatively good, but the extremely slow cast rate of her teleport probably keeps her no closer to barbarians than any other second tier runners (poisonmancer, etc.). I suppose the teleporting more than anything explains why run times were the same despite two very different maps (bosspack quantity was about 1.5 or 2 packs greater per run on map #2).

Either way, I'm relatively happy with the effort. Another character taken from the mid 80's (85 in this case) to 96 (in spite of a few dozen too many deaths -_-) over the course of one MFO. :badteeth:
 
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Originally posted by: @scrcrw

I'll just copy my post from the gameplay videos thread. :whistling:

[YOUTUBE]92WVtK_sR1w[/YOUTUBE]

Skills & Stats:
Stats (LCS)

Skills: 20 WW, 20 Axe Mastery, 20 BO (no BC), 20 Find Item (54% chance on switch), enough Increased Speed for 40%, 1pt NR, rest Berserk

MF: 553/613

I'm not that happy with the balance of stat points in str/dex/vit and the 20 points in BO, but I was too lazy to respec for the MFO

Gear:
Enigma
Shako 'Ist'
upped Goldwrap
Wartravelers
1.07 Ghoulhide :D
1barb/7ml/32mf amulet
nagel (30mf/74ar)
10fcr/103ar/6ll/35mana/9mf

Main: 2x Atma bugged 1.07 grief BA (394 and 382 damage)
Switch: 2x 'Ist' Suicide Branch -> 105 fcr

Charms: MF (some with AR, mostly with resists and other junk mods)

Merc: Reaper's (non-eth, Shael), 60 ias armor, 'ShaelShael' CoA -> fast attack and fast hit rec when he gets charged

It's just a basic brute force version of the pindle barb. The other option is Grief+Azurewrath/Lawbringer for the Sanctuary Aura (=no PI pindle). That does less damage and has a a higher chance of shattering pindles corpse, but doesn't have any problems with PI pindle.
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@Fabian: Those charms assortment is just sick!!! :crazyeyes: I think I don't even have one Fine SC of Good luck with 7% MF...and I found around 60 to 70 7% MF charms in total. Have to keep rerolling, I guess...and the helmet is pure awesomeness! How did you get it? Run yourself or trade?
Also: 2 Tyrael's in one lifetime: You should be banned :whistling:

@Nagi: ** hours??? Wow...that's...mental? What area did you run? Pit or WSK? Or something completely different? Can't view videos at work, so no way of finding out...but I assume Pits, since you mention her cast ratem which keeps her no closer to barbs than other 2nd tier runners.

Has anyone ever tried running Pits without Enigma? Is it possible? I still stick to AT, but get bored by the surroundings :p
 
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Grisu, if you did have "even one", I'd send you a PM immediately :)

Thanks, it's taken a pretty huge amount of effort/wealth to get those charms, they're quite lovely. The Helm comes from a trade from nulio, who started looking at 1.07 Barb Helms specifically because I said a Berserker's with +3 Berserk/FI/BO/Sword Master/etc type staffmods would be useful to me :) A pretty ridiculous find on his part.

At least bcoe has found 2 Tyrael's before I have, and honestly I thought more people have. I might be mistaken on that though :) Oh and Nagisa ran Pit.

Running Pits without Enigma.. It can be done obviously, but it's not going to be anywhere near efficient, or competitive. If you want a good area MF character, it needs to be a sorc or someone with an Enigma, that's just how it goes.
Grisu said:
Has anyone ever tried running Pits without Enigma? Is it possible?
My singer does. It's slow! I think my run times are about 2.30 w. 350 MF or so. Not efficient at all but.. I have no Jah or Ber and still have fun ;) han he has won an MFO even though that was just pure luck.
Nice sacred armour there Fabian, ggyo!
 
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Originally posted by: @zgpmf


Pindle, Berserker Barb:

Weapon: +396 Grief 1.07 eth BA / IstIstIstIstIstIst PB
Switch: HoTO / HoTO
Armor: Enigma
Amulet: 1Barb/9FCR/25MF Craft
Helm: PTopaz Shako
Gloves: Ghoulhide
Belt: Arach
Boots: War Traveler
Rings: dual nagel

Inventory: gheeds (40) + full of 7% MF charms highlight being 3/17/7

56% hork, MF was 783/603

Merc: 14 fana act1



Baal Javazon:

Weapon: eth titans, IstIstIstIst Monarch
Switch: cta + ATSoD
Armor: Enigma
Amulet: +2 Amazon / 32 MF
Helm: Ist Griffons
Gloves: +3 Java/20ias
Belt: goldwrap
Boots: War Traveler
Rings: ravenfrost + 10 FCR/ 22 MF / 27 FR/ 20 Life

Merc: infinity act2

@Fabian
Are you still using an Insight merc?
 
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Originally posted by: @frozzzen


I was thinking this thread is only for winners, but I'll post my sorc anyway...

Stats:

CoTa; lvl96 Blizzard Sorceress

Run times: 38.1 sec (when not watching anime/dota/sc2; 100 runs sample) // 46.9 sec
(when watching anime/dota/sc2; 92 run sample)

Total time in MFO: ~38h

Total number of qualifiers: 121

Good old AT blizzard sorceress. I didn't think I would be able to play with her ever again cause char got messed up somehow and loading times when you go from act 2 to act 1 with Wariv were about 8 - 11 seconds. Clearly not acceptable for anything semi competitive right? Couple days before MFO I tried to fix her and by deleting .map file of hers my loading times were reduced to 1 sec or so <3
It's funny, I participated with her in couple MFOs and initially my run times were about 54-55 seconds average with 105 fcr, managed to lower it to ~45 seconds, and by deleting that nasty load time I got it to 38 seconds or so. All on same map. And that was by lowering her fcr from 105 ro 63. Sadly, map doesn't have 10 bosspack spawns, but rather 6 - 7 that are consistent. Ofc 38 sec would be very good, but I watched stuff 90% of the time so my run times were much slower. I think it kept me motivated enough so it was worth it.

Gear:

Helm: 1.07 Shako [Ist] - 75MF
Amulet: 3cold/34MF prismatic amulet [32/33/29/46] - 34MF
Weapon: 23% CSD eth Death Fathom [Ist] - 30MF
Armor: 1.07 eth Skulder's Ire [Ist] - 145 MF
Shield: 35/112 Spirit Monarch - 0 MF
Gloves: Chance Guards - 40MF
Ring1: 10fcr/12str/22life/28LR/25MF - 25MF
Ring2: 40MF/23CR - 40MF
Belt: upped Goldwrap - 30MF
Boots: War Travelers - 50MF

Beta CtA/Spirit Switch

Inventory: cube, 40MF gheeds and 33 x 7MF scs plain or crap mods - 271MF

Total MF: 740

Misc:

I was never that crazy PvM optimizer but this char looks rather nice. Still need to get 3MF to reach 743 MF breakpoint (probably can be done with 2 more levels for Skulder's to kick in or getting better ring) and better DF, but I'm not overly concerned with that.

Merc used Insight/Andy/Fort. Lazy man gear obviously. I was considering infinity for CI bosses but I think overall Insight was better. Merc could 2-3 hit kill almost anything there. Defiance merc. No, really :) I'm stuck with this guy since I started to play D2 so I'm not ditching him now.

Runes were nice, Cham Vex, Lo, Gul, Gul. Nothing too crazy but they will get some use probably. First thing I see here is second Doom BA. Must...resist... Qualifiers were cool. Actually got something that is useful outside of MFO - 12/19 griffons and 19% DF. Mang's in #8 and by having eth one this was kinda underwhelming but still nice qualifier. 3 Templar's were just :x

With 2300 life and ~60 to LR and ~30 CR she was very safe. I don’t think that I’ve died, but it’s possible. With focus on other things it can happen I guess. But it can also happen that you forget about it >_>

Probably won’t be doing haul picture. I’m lazy, blame me for that.

zgpmf said:
@Fabian
Are you still using an Insight merc?

What a slap in the face :badteeth:
 
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Originally posted by: @Kimppi


I played with the same Berserker-turned-Concentrator I did the last couple of MFOs.

A video I made in May, hadn't touched the char since last MFO so everything's the same.

I also did a crappy thread about it.


Stats


ISeeRed, level 95 Barbarian
MF 570/600
54% Hork
105% FCR
Fastest attack speed with Conc
Strength 30/131
Dexterity 154/160
Vitality 376/392
Energy 10/16
HP 4.8k
54s average runtime



Skills


Concentrate: 20/28
Find Item: 20/28
Battle Orders: 20/28
Sword Mastery: 20/28
Bash: 16/24
Berserk: 1/9

Stun: 1/9
Increased Stamina: 1/9
Iron Skin: 1/9
Increased Speed: 1/9
Natural Resistance: 1/9
Howl: 1/9
Find Potion: 1/9
Shout: 1/9
Battle Command: 1/9

Gear

Grief&Azurewrath / Dual Wizzys
1.07 Shako
Enigma
Rare Gloves
Trang Belt
War Travelers
FCR amulet
Nagel&Rare ring

31x 7%MF charms and 40% Gheeds
Merc with Beta Delirium, Insight and CoH

Code:
Viper Beads
Amulet
Required Level: 89
Fingerprint: 0x4fd5539e
Item Level: 90
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to Barbarian Skill Levels
+9% Faster Cast Rate
3% Mana stolen per hit
+60 to Life
+18 to Mana
Regenerate Mana 9%
69% Extra Gold from Monsters

Enigma
Breast Plate
JahIthBer
Defense: 818
Durability: 38 of 50
Required Level: 65
Required Strength: 30
Fingerprint: 0x63745b41
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to All Skills
+45% Faster Run/Walk
+1 to Teleport
+753 Defense
+71 to Strength (Based on Character Level)
Increase Maximum Life 5%
Damage Reduced by 8%
+14 Life after each Kill
15% Damage Taken Goes To Mana
95% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items (Based on Character Level)
3 Sockets (3 used)
Socketed: Jah Rune
Socketed: Ith Rune
Socketed: Ber Rune

Jah Rune
Required Level: 65
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Ignore Target's Defense
Armor: Increase Maximum Life 5%
Shields: +50 to Life

Ith Rune
Required Level: 15
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: +9 to Maximum Damage
Armor: 15% Damage Taken Goes To Mana
Shields: 15% Damage Taken Goes To Mana

Ber Rune
Required Level: 63
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 20% Chance of Crushing Blow
Armor: Damage Reduced by 8%
Shields: Damage Reduced by 8%

Nagelring
Ring
Required Level: 7
Fingerprint: 0x722f190
Item Level: 87
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+66 to Attack Rating
Magic Damage Reduced by 3
Attacker Takes Damage of 3
29% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Storm Loop
Ring
Required Level: 35
Fingerprint: 0x90fbaedd
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+110 to Attack Rating
5% Life stolen per hit
Cold Resist +12%
Fire Resist +12%
9% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Trang-Oul's Girth
Troll Belt
Defense: 149
Durability: 13 of 18
Required Level: 62
Required Strength: 55
Fingerprint: 0x89b725a5
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+85 Defense
+66 to Life
Replenish Life +5
+27 to Mana
+30 Maximum Stamina
Cannot Be Frozen
Requirements -40%
Set (3 items): Cold Resist +40%

War Traveler
Battle Boots
Defense: 128
Durability: 44 of 48
Required Level: 42
Required Strength: 95
Fingerprint: 0x6fcefccf
Item Level: 94
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+25% Faster Run/Walk
Adds 15 - 25 Damage
+167% Enhanced Defense
+10 to Strength
+10 to Vitality
40% Slower Stamina Drain
Attacker Takes Damage of 7
50% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
+30 Maximum Durability

Viper Hand
Heavy Gloves
Defense: 8
Durability: 12 of 14
Required Level: 51
Fingerprint: 0x53923b5f
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+20% Increased Attack Speed
+27% Enhanced Defense
+14 to Strength
Lightning Resist +25%
Fire Resist +18%
25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Harlequin Crest
Shako
Defense: 284
Indestructible
Required Level: 62
Required Strength: 50
Fingerprint: 0x500450f5
Item Level: 87
Version: Expansion
+2 to All Skills
+100% Enhanced Defense
Increase Maximum Life 40%
75% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Ist Rune

Ist Rune
Required Level: 51
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Armor: 25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Shields: 25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Grief
Phase Blade
EthTirLoMalRal
One Hand Damage: 31 - 35
Indestructible
Required Level: 59
Required Strength: 25
Required Dexterity: 136
Fingerprint: 0x147facc0
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
35% Chance to cast level 15 Venom on striking
+31% Increased Attack Speed
Damage +397
Ignore Target's Defense
-25% Target Defense
+178% Damage to Demons (Based on Character Level)
Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
-24% to Enemy Poison Resistance
20% Deadly Strike
Prevent Monster Heal
+2 to Mana after each Kill
+11 Life after each Kill
5 Sockets (5 used)
Socketed: Eth Rune
Socketed: Tir Rune
Socketed: Lo Rune
Socketed: Mal Rune
Socketed: Ral Rune

Eth Rune
Required Level: 15
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: -25% Target Defense
Armor: Regenerate Mana 15%
Shields: Regenerate Mana 15%

Tir Rune
Required Level: 13
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: +2 to Mana after each Kill
Armor: +2 to Mana after each Kill
Shields: +2 to Mana after each Kill

Lo Rune
Required Level: 59
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 20% Deadly Strike
Armor: +5% to Maximum Lightning Resist
Shields: +5% to Maximum Lightning Resist

Mal Rune
Required Level: 49
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Prevent Monster Heal
Armor: Magic Damage Reduced by 7
Shields: Magic Damage Reduced by 7

Ral Rune
Required Level: 19
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
Armor: Fire Resist +30%
Shields: Fire Resist +35%

Azurewrath
Phase Blade
One Hand Damage: 107 - 121
Indestructible
Required Level: 85
Required Strength: 25
Required Dexterity: 136
Fingerprint: 0x11e3678b
Item Level: 99
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Level 11 Sanctuary Aura When Equipped
+1 to All Skills
+30% Increased Attack Speed
246% Enhanced Damage
Adds 250 - 500 Magic Damage
Adds 250 - 500 Cold Damage Over 10 Secs (250 Frames)
All Stats +6
30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
+3 to Light Radius
1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Ist Rune

Ist Rune
Required Level: 51
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Armor: 25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Shields: 25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Wizardspike
Bone Knife
One Hand Damage: 23 - 49
Durability: 13 of 26
Required Level: 61
Required Strength: 38
Required Dexterity: 75
Fingerprint: 0x107784bf
Item Level: 94
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Indestructible
+50% Faster Cast Rate
Increase Maximum Mana 15%
+190 to Mana (Based on Character Level)
Regenerate Mana 15%
All Resistances +75
30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Ist Rune

Ist Rune
Required Level: 51
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Armor: 25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Shields: 25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Wizardspike
Bone Knife
One Hand Damage: 23 - 49
Durability: 15 of 26
Required Level: 61
Required Strength: 38
Required Dexterity: 75
Fingerprint: 0xa44413ad
Item Level: 94
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Indestructible
+50% Faster Cast Rate
Increase Maximum Mana 15%
+190 to Mana (Based on Character Level)
Regenerate Mana 15%
All Resistances +75
30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Ist Rune

Ist Rune
Required Level: 51
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Armor: 25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Shields: 25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Mercenary:

Delirium
Bone Visage
LemIstIo
Defense: 424
Durability: 21 of 21
Required Level: 63
Required Strength: 96
Fingerprint: 0x43e5ade0
GUID: 0x4464b1d7 0x957efd7 0x0
Item Level: 87
Version: Expansion
1% Chance to cast level 50 Delirium when struck
10% Chance to cast level 14 Mind Blast when struck
20% Chance to cast level 13 Terror when struck
33% Chance to cast level 18 Confuse on striking
+2 to All Skills
+50% Enhanced Defense
+261 Defense
+10 to Vitality
50% Extra Gold from Monsters
25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Level 17 Attract (55/60 Charges)
Ethereal
3 Sockets (3 used)
Socketed: Lem Rune
Socketed: Ist Rune
Socketed: Io Rune

Lem Rune
Required Level: 43
GUID: 0x9dc9af76 0x4a6a106 0x0
Version: Expansion
Weapons: 75% Extra Gold from Monsters
Armor: 50% Extra Gold from Monsters
Shields: 50% Extra Gold from Monsters

Ist Rune
Required Level: 51
GUID: 0x833cdaec 0x6368ef4 0x0
Version: Expansion
Weapons: 30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Armor: 25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Shields: 25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Io Rune
Required Level: 35
GUID: 0x4bed13ea 0x7c67ce2 0x0
Version: Expansion
Weapons: +10 to Vitality
Armor: +10 to Vitality
Shields: +10 to Vitality


Chains of Honor
Archon Plate
DolUmBerIst
Defense: 1866
Durability: 31 of 31
Required Level: 63
Required Strength: 93
Fingerprint: 0xfdef75e2
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to All Skills
+200% Damage to Demons
+100% Damage to Undead
8% Life stolen per hit
+70% Enhanced Defense
+20 to Strength
Replenish Life +7
All Resistances +65
Damage Reduced by 8%
25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Ethereal
4 Sockets (4 used)
Socketed: Dol Rune
Socketed: Um Rune
Socketed: Ber Rune
Socketed: Ist Rune

Dol Rune
Required Level: 31
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Hit Causes Monster to Flee 25%
Armor: Replenish Life +7
Shields: Replenish Life +7

Um Rune
Required Level: 47
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 25% Chance of Open Wounds
Armor: Cold Resist +15%
Lightning Resist +15%
Fire Resist +15%
Poison Resist +15%
Shields: Cold Resist +22%
Lightning Resist +22%
Fire Resist +22%
Poison Resist +22%

Ber Rune
Required Level: 63
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 20% Chance of Crushing Blow
Armor: Damage Reduced by 8%
Shields: Damage Reduced by 8%

Ist Rune
Required Level: 51
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Armor: 25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Shields: 25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items


Insight
Superior Thresher
RalTirTalSol
Two Hand Damage: 72 - 742
Durability: 33 of 33
Required Level: 53
Required Strength: 142
Required Dexterity: 108
Fingerprint: 0x525a6a07
Item Level: 90
Version: Expansion
Level 16 Meditation Aura When Equipped
+35% Faster Cast Rate
252% Enhanced Damage
+9 to Minimum Damage
227% Bonus to Attack Rating
+2 to Attack Rating
Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
+4 to Critical Strike
All Stats +5
+2 to Mana after each Kill
23% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Ethereal
4 Sockets (4 used)
Socketed: Ral Rune
Socketed: Tir Rune
Socketed: Tal Rune
Socketed: Sol Rune

Ral Rune
Required Level: 19
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
Armor: Fire Resist +30%
Shields: Fire Resist +35%

Tir Rune
Required Level: 13
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: +2 to Mana after each Kill
Armor: +2 to Mana after each Kill
Shields: +2 to Mana after each Kill

Tal Rune
Required Level: 17
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
Armor: Poison Resist +30%
Shields: Poison Resist +35%

Sol Rune
Required Level: 27
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: +9 to Minimum Damage
Armor: Damage Reduced by 7
Shields: Damage Reduced by 7

Charms

Code:
Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0x90ae6be1
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0x39ceb2c
Item Level: 81
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0xbc636302
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0xe2624249
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0xe32bedc
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0xa5d1b7de
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0xb40aecdb
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0x8c6b2ae4
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0x5970637
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0x84bc6bcc
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0xac11f0c2
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0xc5e2db1c
Item Level: 94
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0x35c2a700
Item Level: 99
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0xc3b6c08a
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Stout Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0x5a16be52
Item Level: 99
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 Defense
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0x8bdd63cf
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0xa54c3623
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0x75863d40
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0xe9a05b97
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0xb3a8d13f
Item Level: 99
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0xb4278f0
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0x853c4cbe
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0x16449735
Item Level: 84
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0x80fdde60
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0xa2a6fcac
Item Level: 75
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0x9f6f599c
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0x5d3b579
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Fiery Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0xcf2e869c
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Adds 1 - 3 Fire Damage
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Stalwart Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 40
Fingerprint: 0xb79e00be
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+20 Defense
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0x68860f93
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Gheed's Fortune
Grand Charm
Required Level: 62
Fingerprint: 0x2dd2d6e5
Item Level: 94
Version: Expansion 1.10+
127% Extra Gold from Monsters
Reduces all Vendor Prices 14%
40% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Small Charm
Required Level: 33
Fingerprint: 0xba804958
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
 
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zgmpf,

Yeah Insight is pretty much required. I don't know exactly what it would take to be able to go without (SoJs, Wizardspikes, MPK Rings, points in Energy?), but it surely doesn't seem worth it even though Fanaticism would be kinda nice.

Speaking of Fanaticism, I thought with a setup like yours you could probably reach 9fpa with Military Pick off-hand? That 136 dex requirement sticks out like a sore thumb to me. Or do you need Goldwrap as well? If so I'd look into it, dunno. -Hotos -Arach +Suicide Branches +Goldwrap seems like a good improvement for your character to me, you lose 1% hork but you gain IAS if necessary, you gain 30 MF and you gain 60MF on hork.

Edit: Guess that's 2% because of that Amulet. Meh, still seems good to me but I dunno.
 
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Originally posted by: @Thyiad


Atil 98 and a bit.

Gear:
Head: Griffs -24/+20 with socket
Weapon: Thresher Infinity -54% LR
Gloves: Magefists
Belt: Arach Mesh
Boots: Rare 30% FRW, 4 dex, FR 39%, PR 36%, 20% MF
Crafted Ammy: 2 sorc skill, 8 FCR, 4 max dam, 17 mana, regen mana 8%, All res 12, 21% MF
Ring 1: 10% FCR, 3% mana leech, All res 11, Fire res 9%, 8% MF
Ring 2: 10% FCR, 4 min dam, 6% mana steal, All res 10, Light res 13%, 10% MF

Teleport Switch:
Beta CtA (11 BC, 12 BO, 13 BC)
Spirit 27 FCR

Charms:
Gheeds, 5 skillers (1 balance, 4 life), others assorted balance/res/MF combos.

Skills:
Warmth 1
Armour 1
CB, Lightning, CL, LM, Nova all maxed (31 I think with +skills and BO)
TK, TP, TS 1
Static 3

Stats:
Just over 1800 life with BO (I got around to sticking the stats from level 98 into Vit)
Hits 117% FCR breakpoint on both switches
30% FHR breakpoint on Infinity, 86% FHR breakpoint on teleport switch
All resistances maxed except cold which is 41 (ish)
210% MF

Moron (Holy Freeze):
Eth Reapers Amn
Treachery Dusk Shroud
Delirium Mask


Waffle:

Well I kept my part in the Team Fail. :p

All but the last three days were a wash out for me; too busy with other stuff to run. It was really only Friday-Sunday did I actually manage to get some decent (for me) runs in. I watched a few series on You Tube and a few old ones on IPlayer while running; which is something I don't normally do. I think I complained about new series having far too much background music; really is distracting. Luckily there were a few things from the 80's on IPlayer.

I changed my map on Saturday and that did seem to improve the drops a bit. It's not such a fast tele to the Throne but I was hitting interesting looking bosses on the way down anyway. Interestingly, if the BK Charge came from the Waves/Baal it'd be worth a shed load more; but I'd only have climbed one place. :D

Not many qualifiers which is a bit disappointing but for three days running (for me; I can't sit and run for 8 hours straight), isn't bad. Oddly I got more points in the WSK.

Baal was his usual tight self but unusually I did get a qualifier from the Waves. Usually everything seem to come from Baal for me.

I did restrain myself from picking up every gem but my rune luck was awful which is about par for the course. I got an Um from one of the Waves but that was it apart from a Fal I picked up somewhere in the Keep.

There did seem to be a bit of a doll/gloam thing going on which was depressing but about par for the course. I confess to a couple of "Stuff that for a game of soldiers" when I came across a boss doll pack. Just not worth the risk of dying.

My usual MO is to teleport down on /players 3 because that's what I had it set for Baal. I can't be bothered to change it, it gives a few more things to kill on the way down. It does make the Throne a bit more annoying but .. hey ho.

Saw a bunch of recommendations for Glad's Bane on the merc and briefly tried it but it didn't work for me, so I went back to Treachery which seems to keep him nice and safe. I used to use Andy's/Reapers/Treachery but a while ago I tried Delirium and I rather like it. He doesn't seem to miss the IAS or leech. He stands against an angry LI Lister fine. I've never bothered to do the Treachery/Delirium in Elite items because I can't get a high enough def to make it worth it and I'm not changing to a defiance merc.

I'd love to get 250% MF but that's going to involve a couple of zomg upgrades. I periodically try crafting another ammy (for more FCR, to free up the rings) but my luck with crafting always was terrible. :D

I did pick up these and it's a real shame they don't have MF but I'm very pleased with them.
Storm Track
Demonhide Boots
Defense: 32
Durability: 7 of 12
Required Level: 24
Required Strength: 20
Fingerprint: 0x91bf533d
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+10% Faster Run/Walk
+3 to Dexterity
Cold Resist +32%
Lightning Resist +33%
Fire Resist +27%

What was quite amusing was teleporting/walking along and finding things on the ground. Between Chain Lightning and Thunderstorm things do die off screen a fair bit. I like the TS for a bit of stun. Not sure whether to stick my skill point from 98 into that or Static.

Not much else to say except I'm back to running her more frequently. Also picked up the Necromancer part of my Sept, found his build plan (yes it was on the back of an envelope, but I had put it in my D2 file so ner ner). He's moved from Act 1 NM to Act 3 so if I can be faffed to load in another char, I'll give him the LK way point because I hate the jungle. If not, he'll be trogging through there.

Thanks again to competitors, hosts, readers.

Happy killing all.
 
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I don't think Insight is that much required, you drink that purple pots very often already and you can add one blue pots row (I have two). Also, you pick up a pot or two while looking at the ground for drops so that is another pro for ditching Insight.

Benefits of Fanaticism are that you can use BA + Military pick as you mentioned and reach that 9 FPA without anything else. Since you already use Goldwrap you can use "low roll on IAS" Grief. And, Fana gives you extra AR so that makes up for loss in dex. You only lose ED from Might but in reality you don't because you have extra 130 max damage. You also have better range with BA. Sounds good in theory but test it yourself, I did, and I like it more than Insight.

I use phase blade (I have 6 Isted war axe which is also enough for 9 FPA ) because I didn't feel like running Diablo and Meph for essences in the middle of MFO, as I used them all up for Assassin. My Pindle runner is far from optimized because I didn't think I'd get DWeb on the first day and Mang Song on third.
You must have some sort of weird magical wizard equipment if you got a 105FCR telebarb to work to your liking in the Pit without Insight I guess. Nice!
I do have a lots of "+to all" skills from HoTOs, Arach, Shako so that makes Teleport less mana intesive. I usually chuk one blue when entering Pit Level 1 and one before Level 2 and in meantime a lot of purples because I have only ~1700 life so I can barely notice that Insight is gone.
 
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Originally posted by: @zaphodbrx


Grisu said:
Has anyone ever tried running Pits without Enigma? Is it possible? I still stick to AT, but get bored by the surroundings :p
Well you can obviously do it with a sorceress I suppose..

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Runtime: 70 sec, MF: 368, Players 1 runs. Kind of an okay character though obviously not as good as some of the other ones posted. Ran her for a while. Pindle was run with a Barb with generic type WW build, except armor was Skullders ( no enigma ), and weapon was IstIst tomb reaver to push the MF to 570 ( kill/hork both, harmony switch ). TR isn't dual grief material, but on players 1, it's definitely okay.

Only played till Monday though.. just monotonous, not much challenge, not much reward either. Spent the rest of the week running p8 WSK+Baal with lightningfury zon ( no MF ). Two HR came out of that, which was the highlight for me, and Spirit Ward. Baal also dropped a shaefer's hammer, but that doesn't count in 'other area 85'. I'd estimate about 10 hrs of 'MFOing' and then another 20 hrs of WSK/Baal runs. I was surprised by the low standing in Pindle though, at one point I was third.

Warning- very meh haulpic below.



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Originally posted by @nulio


I'm lazy...so:

Ember, an Olympian

I respeced my PvP fire sorc to level her in MFO. Initial plan, supported by bad math, was to get her from 94 to 96 - she wasn't far from 95. I ended up getting her to about 95.25.

She used PTopaz Shako (lol too lazy to Ist it), Ist'ed 30CSD Fathom, Spirit, 2Sorc 10FCR PvP amulet (this is where I could net more MF), Nigma (FRW for town running, MF, skills), 2 beta BKWB, Chancies, WT, Arach/Goldwrap(I tried both), Harmony on switch, 7skillers, Gheeds's and MF SCs. She had around 400MF. Stats are pretty straightforward, blizzard and synergies, CM and warmth.

I tried to make her strongest possible (cause of XP/time - P7 Pindle) but with some nice MF. Amulet and better WT and not putting her together in just first day of MFO would have probably resulted in something marginally better. No idea if I missed some MF Breakpoint :p I'm no Fabian ^^

If Blizzards didn't miss Pindle runs were pretty-ish fast. Some aborted runs due to CI Pindle. Oh I used act3 merc with lawbringer for safety and because I don't have Infinity and was lazy to beg for one. This was major flaw.

I just made a hell lot of runs - the fact that I have an injured foot helped (I can't/shouldn't walk much so gamer mode 100% on) and I had the house all to myself for some days (playing without social interactions lol). IRC helped keeping my sanity and motivation.

12734 runs from adding all days (I didn't notice I had downloaded the normal run counter until it was too late - goal was having run counter with runs from 10 days...). I didn't pick most lower qualifiers - I regretted this when I wanted to compare qualifiers per runs/time with scrcrw.


As I posted in another threads, useful finds:
Lo, Jah (traded meanwhile), Sur and Cham. A Soj, a 20/238 Raven Frost, perfect fire and cold facets, 19/14 Griffon's and 2os 15DR [email protected] CoA.
 
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Originally posted by: @BaronScarpia


I did around 5k pindle runs to level Turandot, my pvp cold sorc.

I already ungeared her, so the gear section will be a top-of-my-head thing:

Head: PT Harlequin Crest
Body: PT Skulder's Ire
Weapon: Oculus
Shield: 33% FCR Spirit Monarch
Rings: 2x 30% MF Nagelrings
Ammy: Shimmering Amulet of Luck :crazyeyes:
Boots: War Traveler
Belt: Goldwrap
Gloves: 40% MF Chance Guards
Charms: 30% MF Gheed's, a few mfscs.

I up-ed her from lvl 80 to lvl 92. Since I wanted to have some results, I did a lot of runs on p/1. That didn't worked very well... :whistling:

It was a very rushed process. I restarted a month ago (exactly, iirc). I had one coldsorc doing nm andy runs, wearing pt gear. I wasn't going to participate on mfo.

August 13: I received the giveaway.
August 14: I started a sorc form scratch.
August 15: Mat thread.
August 16: I traded some pgems I got from andy (traders were very generous, especially Paradigm Shift) for her mf-ing gear.
~August 17-19: Got some qualifiers
~August 20-23: Worst 3k pindle runs ever - almost no qualifiers.
~August 24-26: Got the final qualifiers.

I'm not sure, but I think she is the youngest olympian... What I know is that the past 15 days were kinda hurry. Everything was very nice (except S/U from pindle - charm traded with nulio for Jah+ saved the week) and I had lots of fun! Thanks, everyone!

👋
 
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Originally posted by: @mr teach


Well just like Nulio I am rather lazy:

theGuardian - another hiker on Mount Olymp

I had only one char (fishymancer) in Hell so I so i got him from the Pits to Pindle just in time before the MFO started.
First 100 runs or so were done with a 4Topas Gothicplate - than i found a 3os Archonplate and made myself a Wealth.
3Topaz Deathmask as Headgear furthermore: Goldwrap, Chanceguards, 32MF magic boots, Rhyme, Arm of King Leoric, 25MF crafted Ammy with resist all and FCR, SoJ, 27% Nagelring, 30MF from SC

I think at run 1000 or so i found my frist Gheeds - 20MF -.- ... I also found an eth Alibaba and put my only IST into it because the AoKL wasn't needed.

In the first days i only got like 200 runs done each day because I picked up all rares to sell them - silly me

I stopped that and boom my runtime halfed or so.

I discoverd that it was fastest to only resurrect 3 skellies and not 10 in pindles garden because then the merc got to kill the first Pindle minion faster and i saved time at the start.
I more or less perfected my routine on Thursday and could have gotten to like 6 or 7k total runs but friday i was unable to play because of a terrible hangover. And on sunday friends showed up spontaneous...

..so i only got done 3810 runs .. it was still fun

But i think Pindle hates me.
I got not one necro-specific unique - but all the claws at least twice -.- Also the Shako still eludes me

But all in all I got massive amounts of items i never had seen before ^^ and a lot of knowledge on how to properly run a target

Best find besides the qualifiers was a Vex - HotO her i come
 
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Originally posted by: @Cyrax


Ran Baal this MFO with my LF zon for XP. Goal was to get to 98 during MFO and she just made that (1 day before ending).

Her stats are suboptimal now as before she didn´t have enigma so she needed more str than she does now.

Base stats:
str - 126
dex - 166
vit - 273
ene - 15

Skills:
5 in pierce
16 valk
6 decoy (both for stronger valk and longer lasting decoy; maybe now with better gear respeccing and putting points into synergy may be better)
LF, CS and 1 synergy max
11 in the other synergy (final point going here)

Equipment:
mara's (30)
griffon's + facet (+17/-22)
titan's (upped)
enigma bp
ss (pdiamond)
+3 java gloves (/w 19 dex)
t-gods
ravenfrost
soj
wt's (46)

8x skiller & sc's for resists.

Merc:
vamp gaze (ias jewel)
duriel's shell (eth, ias jewel)
infinity

During this MFO she had 1 good day. This netted both my no. 1 and 2 of the final five. Other than that drops were pretty bad. After finding 2 horizon's the 3rd scourge was finally the right one.
Best non-qualifiers were jah, ohm and 2x facet (5/-4 and 3/-4).

As stated before xp was the main goal. So despite not being able to run as much as i wanted or win this, i still achieved my main goal: reaching 98.
 
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This is a great thread, if I may say so! Sheds some light on "how the pros do it" for us aspiring MFers. Thank you!

frozzzen, oh my! Your jewelry is beyond words. :whistling:

As I'm doing some AT runs myself, I would love to see how you do it. Did you happen to record some runs or are there any videos of your AT running on the site already?


Nulio, you've inspired me to start a 13k Pindle runs longer-term project. 👍 I did not know you could get so many HRs from Pindle running. Is your result within standards or were you just very lucky? Also, were those Pindle drops or from his pals? (I'm currently running on /p7 for the XP, but might switch to /p1 when the progress slows down - if those were drops from Pindle)

Thanks!
 
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Originally posted by: @Jason Maher


I present to you Liza, level 91 (89 when MFO started) Blizzard sorc, who positively sucks next to the other characters presented here. In keeping with my love of respeccing and re-equipping charatcers, I redid Liza after the start of MFO, basically ditching the annoying Occy for full Tals and building from that basis. Final MF is 375 (167 Unique breakpoint), down from 700-odd. Liza is now more robust and fun to play, and she doesn't have to bolt to town every time she gets poisoned anymore. Her map is not ideal, but I'm used to it, and she has a very nice LK map I didn't want to get rid of. I didn't time my runs, but they fall somewhere in the ball park of "crap". Doesn't help that I can't stop myself picking up gems, jewels, charms etc. and that I do p8 full clears for the exp.

Level: 91
Life: 1317
Mana: 999
Resists: 75/75/75/75
Defence: who cares?

Blizzard damage: 5331-5611
Ice Blast damage: 2663-2756
Cold Mastery: level 28 + a 4/4 facet = -159 to enemy cold resistance
FCR: 105 breakpoint
FHR: 86 breakpoint

Equipment:

- Tal's helm + Um
- Tal's orb + 4/4 facet
- Tal's armour + Ral
- Tal's ammy
- Tal's belt
- Magefist
- 35 FCR 'Spirit' Monarch
- 40 MF War Travs
- 2x SoJ
- 'Harmony' Long Bow on switch

- Gheed's 132/37/15
- bunch of 6/7 MF SCs
- some charms with life, mana, PRes, FHR, FRW

Prayer moron:
- 'Insight' 1.07 eth Thresher (level 17 Meditation)
- Upped Shaftstop + Um
- Vampire Gaze 20% DR, 7% LL + Um
 
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Originally posted by: @nulio


I'm not sure what runes can be from Pindle or from his minions. Most times Pindle didn't die alone since Blizzard is an AoE spell. Screenshots don't fully dissipate my doubts. Maybe some drop/screenshot specialist could be more sure :D

Looking at ingame.de drop calculator for P7 Hell Pindle it was luck. Still nothing compared to four Zod Runes from Pindle *cof* frozzzen *cof*

Sur Rune0.001413%1:70772
Lo Rune0.0012737%1:78509
Jah Rune0.001052%1:95059
Ber Rune0.000942%1:106158
Cham Rune0.0007013%1:142589
Zod Rune0.0002687%1:372128

The lenymo, SoJ, Astreon's and Dweb are also very rare (well obviously...) (or rarer if you don't pack MF). The thing with MFO is that to win you need luck. We just need to look at Nagisa's case, such an amazing amount of playing time in each MFO and crazy D2 skills but that didn't translate in number of wins.

I've been defending a different kind of score. Either just a bigger top or some kind of mean with all qualifiers.
 
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All qualifiers would be troublesome, but I def would like to see my infernal cranium netting me some points... It's harder to find than Asteron's, iirc... :whistling: A bigger top could work imo (people would mention the top 3 for tie breaking).

Imo, the claim system should change. I believe that something closer to what nulio did on the results thread (asking for readouts of Treks, wolhowls, dungo's, etc.) can end up in better torphies than darkforce spawn, bad CoA and ltd. co.
nulio said:
I'm not sure what runes can be from Pindle or from his minions. Most times Pindle didn't die alone since Blizzard is an AoE spell. Screenshots don't fully dissipate my doubts. Maybe some drop/screenshot specialist could be more sure :D
Ah, too bad. Still in a dilemma. I think /p7 runs take about a couple of more seconds to complete (with 50MF less, Ist'd DF vs. Ist'd Ocy for /p1), which translates to around 1300 more runs (supposing 20s runs) over 13k.

Thanks for the info 👍

Looking at ingame.de drop calculator for P7 Hell Pindle it was luck. Still nothing compared to four Zod Runes from Pindle *cof* frozzzen *cof*

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