max block any good on windy?

[FreshWater]

max block any good on windy?

I have decided to make a new druid and cant figure out if i should go for max block or just go all vita?

 

[RetroStar]

Max Block, you can't go wrong with this.

 

[FreshWater]

Max Block, you can't go wrong with this.

i was wondering if i max block wouldnt i have lower health than normal?

 

[Sh4dovv]

Max Block, you can't go wrong with this.

nah...

Max vita, you can't go wrong with this.

thats my quote

yes barbs are hard, but i can still beat them!

since 80%+ of ur opponents are casters, get LIFE as block does not help u vs these!

do u want to tweak ur char to be more effective against the 80% of the 20%?

there is no right answer to this question...its a personal preference

 

[aznbboi16]

I think you have your definition of "tweak" way off there.

If he wants to be able to "tweak" and face any matchup, he should max block.

If he wants to specialize vs casters, then he should max vit and leave dex base.

With block he will be effective vs 100% of the population. Just a bit less effective than a max vit druid for 80% of the pop.

 

[Sh4dovv]

but block is only needed for barb and wwsin...

and NO char can beat every build

 

[Dennis_KoreanGuy]

but block is only needed for barb and wwsin...

It's true... any other melee if you tele on with 5 Spirit Wolves their hit is most likely to miss if they're zeal / smite / charge / so on.

I have Lidless on mine, and a Jalal instead of the all-too-common 20% FCR Circlet, and he has 100% FHR with it...

Against WW Barbs... Well it's just hard against those with 50% DR, Ber'd SS, Dungos, etc. If they don't, tele untill they WW, and while they're regretting that they WW'ed missing you completely b/c you cast or you very SHOULD cast much faster frames, SPAM TORNADOES LIKE MAD

Their health goes down rather quickly than you think... I was surprised too.

 

[Sh4dovv]

not to mention a vita druid will win vs a block druid in 1v1

and since my druid has 163fcr/99fhr breakpoints, im often fast enuf to beat barbs

 

[Dennis_KoreanGuy]

not to mention a vita druid will win vs a block druid in 1v1

and since my druid has 163fcr/99fhr breakpoints, im often fast enuf to beat barbs

Damn... 163?

08 Valk - 30
HoTo - 40
Trang Glove - 20
Spider - 20
Lidless - 20
FCR Ring - 10
FCR Ring - 10
FCR Ammy - 20

Total - 170%...

I only wish I can afford a 08 Valk... lucky you.

 

[FreshWater]

i guess ill try all vita bte sh4dovv wats u r druids health with bo and oak

 

[MonsterSlayer]

It's true... any other melee if you tele on with 5 Spirit Wolves their hit is most likely to miss if they're zeal / smite / charge / so on.

I have Lidless on mine, and a Jalal instead of the all-too-common 20% FCR Circlet, and he has 100% FHR with it...

Against WW Barbs... Well it's just hard against those with 50% DR, Ber'd SS, Dungos, etc. If they don't, tele untill they WW, and while they're regretting that they WW'ed missing you completely b/c you cast or you very SHOULD cast much faster frames, SPAM TORNADOES LIKE MAD

Their health goes down rather quickly than you think... I was surprised too.

99 fcr Druid = 25/11 attack per second
40 fcr Barb = 25/10 attack per second

so I can't see why the druid SHOULD cast faster? The barb can easy get faster cast than the druid.

Beside 6.5k life barb versus 6k damage nados:
With 50% pdr and 1/6 pvp penalty nado would deal 0.5k damage so 7k/0.5k = 14 hits to take the barb down. That doesn't sound like it's that fast, since you won't attack faster than 25/11 attack per second, or just about 2 nadoes / second.
Even if you teled on top of the barb and he stood still it'd still take 7 seconds for him to die, and that's a long time if you ask me.

 

[RetroStar]

99 fcr Druid = 25/11 attack per second
40 fcr Barb = 25/10 attack per second

so I can't see why the druid SHOULD cast faster? The barb can easy get faster cast than the druid.

Beside 6.5k life barb versus 6k damage nados:
With 50% pdr and 1/6 pvp penalty nado would deal 0.5k damage so 7k/0.5k = 14 hits to take the barb down. That doesn't sound like it's that fast, since you won't attack faster than 25/11 attack per second, or just about 2 nadoes / second.
Even if you teled on top of the barb and he stood still it'd still take 7 seconds for him to die, and that's a long time if you ask me.

That's why we see WW barbs own Wind Druids.

 

[aznbboi16]

Block is also needed vs zons, fury druids, zealots and anything that uses a physical blockable attack.

Yes block is only good vs them, but it sure as hell doesn't mean I can't duel casters anymore. Max block = more rounded and tweakable.

 

[Tor]

no block = 2 hit kills vs high powered melee

get block, notice only shadovv likes no block -_________-

i still love you shadovv

rauth blocks too i believe

 

[morotsjos]

99 fcr Druid = 25/11 attack per second
40 fcr Barb = 25/10 attack per second

so I can't see why the druid SHOULD cast faster? The barb can easy get faster cast than the druid.

Beside 6.5k life barb versus 6k damage nados:
With 50% pdr and 1/6 pvp penalty nado would deal 0.5k damage so 7k/0.5k = 14 hits to take the barb down. That doesn't sound like it's that fast, since you won't attack faster than 25/11 attack per second, or just about 2 nadoes / second.
Even if you teled on top of the barb and he stood still it'd still take 7 seconds for him to die, and that's a long time if you ask me.

Your calcs are flawed. Barbs attackrate isn't based on their castrate.
A wwbarb attacks at 4 fpa, which means 6.25 attacks/second. With 2 weapons it's AT LEAST 1.5 times more, depending on how tight he keeps his triangles (2 weapons = both weapons hit each 4:th frame except for the first).

no block = 2 hit kills vs high powered melee

And how is this high powered melee supposed to hit you in the first place? With 5 wolves and good teleporting it's near impossible for a non-ww-meleechar to hit a druid.

 

[MonsterSlayer]

Your calcs are flawed. Barbs attackrate isn't based on their castrate.
A wwbarb attacks at 4 fpa, which means 6.25 attacks/second. With 2 weapons it's AT LEAST 1.5 times more, depending on how tight he keeps his triangles (2 weapons = both weapons hit each 4:th frame except for the first).


And how is this high powered melee supposed to hit you in the first place? With 5 wolves and good teleporting it's near impossible for a non-ww-meleechar to hit a druid.

I don't know if my english really is that bad, or people just don't read what I'm posting?

The druid is a caster, he uses FCR in his attack sequence. Now since he uses FCR he'll attack with the usage of the fcr he has, which is 99 fcr = 11 fpa. 11 Fpa = 25/11 attack per second. As I said this was approx. 2 attacks / second (12,5 fpa = 2 attacks / second I know...) but it isn't far from the truth. So I can't see how you get that the druid should attack with 4 fpa?? I mean that would be faster than a 200 fcr sorc?

Nah I'm kidding you I know you read it as I was talking about the barb who was attacking, but it's the druid who uses nados... so I guess this leads back to my english not being very well, or you didn't read what I wrote that carefully

Well whatever I got a B+/B+ in english on second highest level :uhhuh:

EDIT: Where I write the barb has 6.5k of life I do of course mean 7k which my calculations show.

 

[morotsjos]

I don't know if my english really is that bad, or people just don't read what I'm posting?

The druid is a caster, he uses FCR in his attack sequence. Now since he uses FCR he'll attack with the usage of the fcr he has, which is 99 fcr = 11 fpa. 11 Fpa = 25/11 attack per second. As I said this was approx. 2 attacks / second (12,5 fpa = 2 attacks / second I know...) but it isn't far from the truth. So I can't see how you get that the druid should attack with 4 fpa?? I mean that would be faster than a 200 fcr sorc?

Nah I'm kidding you I know you read it as I was talking about the barb who was attacking, but it's the druid who uses nados... so I guess this leads back to my english not being very well, or you didn't read what I wrote that carefully

Well whatever I got a B+/B+ in english on second highest level :uhhuh:

EDIT: Where I write the barb has 6.5k of life I do of course mean 7k which my calculations show.

I interpret this:

99 fcr Druid = 25/11 attack per second
40 fcr Barb = 25/10 attack per second

as you thought that barbs attacked 2.5 times/second.

Anyway, there's still 2 more things:
1 tornado can hit multiple times vs stationary targets.
Triangular whirls will make ALOT of the tornados miss.

 

[Sh4dovv]

Block is also needed vs zons, fury druids, zealots and anything that uses a physical blockable attack.

Yes block is only good vs them, but it sure as hell doesn't mean I can't duel casters anymore. Max block = more rounded and tweakable.

most of the time those chars die b4 they can even touch me...

and i dont tele ontop of ww barbs...THATS suicide

i wait until they try tele on top of me, then tele a few feet away and spam tornados at them while they are in their ww

then they will try tele on me again, so i repeat

do that 2-4 times and the barb dies

and with 6.5k health i can usually survive a couple of ww's incase he does get me


and btw my barb has 8133 life :thumbsup: [525 vita]

 

[Bigrob]

most of the time those chars die b4 they can even touch me...

and i dont tele ontop of ww barbs...THATS suicide

i wait until they try tele on top of me, then tele a few feet away and spam tornados at them while they are in their ww

then they will try tele on me again, so i repeat

do that 2-4 times and the barb dies

and with 6.5k health i can usually survive a couple of ww's incase he does get me


and btw my barb has 8133 life :thumbsup: [525 vita]

apparently those barb are stupid.

 

[aznbboi16]

most of the time those chars die b4 they can even touch me...

and i dont tele ontop of ww barbs...THATS suicide

i wait until they try tele on top of me, then tele a few feet away and spam tornados at them while they are in their ww

then they will try tele on me again, so i repeat

do that 2-4 times and the barb dies

and with 6.5k health i can usually survive a couple of ww's incase he does get me


and btw my barb has 8133 life :thumbsup: [525 vita]

What I'm saying is, block helps vs those characters if they happen to get through your minion stack. If you namelock tele on a werewolf, you are not going to kill him before he gets an attack off.

Blocking helps vs barbs too...you seem to be ignoring that fact.