grief vs ebotdz - leach?

[razuel]

grief vs ebotdz - leach?

After doing some research on the forum I've found that grief is better than ebotdz for pvp. My question is, where does one get their leech from when using a grief? If I were to use an arreats, that's only 6% (with angelic combo for bvb). Maybe add draculs for bvb when using grief?

Also, when looking for my grief should I be more interested in finding 40% ias over damage or highest damage even if it's like 35% ias?

 

[Bjam]

As long as the Grief has 34%+ IAS you should be fine, go for damage. Leech is really not a factor for PvP because leech is so badly nerfed.

 

[mainaman]

As long as the Grief has 34%+ IAS you should be fine, go for damage. Leech is really not a factor for PvP because leech is so badly nerfed.

leech still works on minions /summons

 

[Ce Olba]

Also, a barbarian should be wearing Dracul's most of the time anyways, so that's already ~10% there. And yes, EBotdZ will leech more from minions, but it will also deal less damage to the actual opponent.

 

[razuel]

Ah, I see; all great info, thanks guys.

 

[dmngd]

I've tried grief+ebotd vs windies and it worked well tbh but i don't have the space any more to do that.

 

[razuel]

Here's a problem I didn't think about-- no mana leach. I can't keep ww'ing because I'm out of mana in no time (pvm mostly)

 

[dmngd]

Thats why bvcs use fcr rings with mana and life/mana scs. I like using 4 20life/17mana or 1 15life/70mana sc depending on your realm.

Edit: mana leech in pvp is near useless since you can only leech of minions such as wolves/bear. Having damage taken goes to mana items also helps.

 

[razuel]

I built my barb around my ebotdz, with the +30 attributes. He's already 95 and without the ebotdz and beast instead, I only have like 50-65% block-- horrible.

 

[dmngd]

Botd is not a bad option for bvb but it's a definate no no on a bvc.