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Girls Night Out - MP Group

OK just had to check. Honestly in the past I never bothered with pre-buffing Enchant so I was curious what happens if I throw more stuff in there.

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I must admit I underestimated the whole "serious pre-buffing" thing:

With Dream unequipped it's 13-17k, essentially all from Enchant (only ~500-2000 of displayed LCS dmg is physical).

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Dream "only" adds ~13k max dmg... significantly more fire dmg than light dmg with this approach (i.e. not using Sparking but Sharp GCs).

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Stash is full of buff gear though, literally only cube left... not sure I'll keep it that way. :)

Anyhow, enough testing and already lvl 85 from trying various things in the Cave. So I'll leave her as is for now, unless anyone needs me to bring some other Merc bow (if so let me know).
 
D2DC said:
@ffs you do know, lvl 85 = retirement? You're gonna have to get another character up and ready now..
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Then I'd be forced to switch characters 5-6 times for the playthrough :D because Blizzard apparently didn’t think so when deciding Tomby can only be used at lvl 84. :cautious:
 
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Name              Char              Build              Area/lvl               Rogue Merc
__________        __________        ___________        _______________        __________
ffs               Fluffy            Bear Sorc          A1 H (84)              Wrath
d2lover           Velocity          WF MS or Strafe    A1 N (1)               'Edge'
Vildecor          Alvarra           Buriza Strafer     A4 NM (61)             Wrath
D2DC              Kouhi             TS/Kicker          A1 H (73)              Faith
PhineasB          Blade             Dual Dream Kicker  A2 NM (55)             ?
snickersnack      Agnesi            Kick/Trapper       A1 N (16)              Faith, Harmony, WWS?
maxicek           Harley_Quinn      Kick Zeal Zerk     A1 H (77)              Brand or Wrath

I'm all ready.

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@ffs that enchant is nuts, and the AR bonus is something else.

My sin finished NM at 71 and hit 72 upon completing Nihl quest. I then switched out to the Rogue and equipped Ice. Quite fun, but she's going to need the group's help for sure, as p8 even in NM is slow. Then I realized I didn't have up'ed Gores yet - better, but still not overpowered by any means.

But then I looked at gear, and realized I hadn't revisited any of it except Fortitude and Dual Dream when those could be equipped. I'm puzzling over what to do with amulet, ring #2, and gloves, and the entire backpack. Would appreciate feedback, especially from our resident Assassin expert @maxicek

She doesn't need IAS, with the Shael'ed Fleshripper, as max DTalon speed is hit with dual Bartuc prebuff for BoS. So I was leaning toward Trang's gloves to boost Venom, with alternatives of Blood Gloves (one gives dual leech, which will be nice to take care of mana). But I think the Venom boost will more noticeable than 9-10% more CB. An off-the-radar option would be Steelrend, with 50% damage boost marginal on top of Fortitude, so somewhat skeptical. Amulet and ring would pick up mana leech if not obtained from gloves, likely being boring with Mara's and ML rare ring. But I'd welcome feedback on whether I'm overlooking any key stats that would benefit the build.

As to backpack, she had all martial arts skillers, I think from early when I was going for 30 skill level while leveling. But given only DTalon, I don't think there's much bang for the buck beyond 24 (which will require only 1 or 2 skillers depending on other gear slot choices). So we can round out resists, but I'm not sure what else to focus on. Mentalist would boost Venom and the Shadow (before seeing post from @ffs I thought maybe a Steel charm or two to ensure cth is > 95% without needing Fanaticism buff, but seemingly won't be needed!).

Anyhow, I will likely fiddle around with some gear choices on Baal runs for at least another level before Saturday. But would welcome feedback!

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Name              Char              Build              Area/lvl               Rogue Merc
__________        __________        ___________        _______________        __________
ffs               Fluffy            Bear Sorc          A1 H (84)              Wrath
d2lover           Velocity          WF MS or Strafe    A1 N (1)               'Edge'
Vildecor          Alvarra           Buriza Strafer     A4 NM (61)             Wrath
D2DC              Kouhi             TS/Kicker          A1 H (73)              Faith
PhineasB          Blade             Dual Dream Kicker  A1 H (72)              Ice
snickersnack      Agnesi            Kick/Trapper       A1 N (16)              Faith, Harmony, WWS?
maxicek           Harley_Quinn      Kick Zeal Zerk     A1 H (77)              Brand or Wrath
 
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I only have 4 kicks, I think that is plenty for questing. You only really need more if you are a specialist boss killer.

I guess you have 40CB at the moment? Either Trangs or crafted, I would probably go Trangs if I didn’t need IAS.

I assume the first ring is a Ravenfrost? Dual leech or is this already covered? Amulet Mara’s or Cat’s Eye. Maybe Atma’s for the amp?

Backpack go for resists, I’m assuming these will be a bit low with BoS. After that Mentalist Skillers or AR I guess.
 
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d2lover said:
For me I didn't knew about that rule and imo that is rather restrictive
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D2DC was only kidding. :)

Btw would be nice if anyone could go with Harmony Merc, maybe you @d2lover? Would help more than Edge I'd imagine?

@PhineasB Guess it comes down to personal taste. When I played the WW Sin in our last MP group with a focus on Venom, I was rather underwhelmed once past A2 Hell or so... That's despite 4-5 facets, skillers and TO gloves. So based on that experience personally I'd go CB/leech gloves or Dracul's. :) Then again poison damage could help the group overall as an additional damage type. Apart from Enchant and some lightning damage, seems like we're mostly going for physical damage overall.
 
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Who needs Harmony when you have 20 hard points in BoS :)
 
I think you can out run a sorc with enough FRW & BoS. At least until you get to an obstacle.
 
d2lover said:
sorc can tele at 200 fc.

it is the fastest way to travel, since you can glitchtele (open inv or charwindow)
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I’ll race you, straight up the screen ;)
Also in MP Sorc will often double cast tele at 200FCR.
 
Code: 
Name              Char              Build              Area/lvl               Rogue Merc
__________        __________        ___________        _______________        __________
ffs               Fluffy            Bear Sorc          A1 H (84)              Wrath
d2lover           Velocity          WF MS or Strafe    A1 N (1)               'Edge'
Vildecor          Alvarra           Buriza Strafer     A4 NM (61)             Wrath
D2DC              Kouhi             TS/Kicker          A1 H (73)              Faith
PhineasB          Blade             Dual Dream Kicker  A1 H (72)              Ice
snickersnack      Agnesi            Kick/Trapper       A2 NM (47)             Faith, Harmony, WWS?
maxicek           Harley_Quinn      Kick Zeal Zerk     A1 H (77)              Brand or Wrath

I haven't used a respec yet, but as I get closer to being ready, I'm reconsidering my build a bit. I was going to go with kicks and fire traps, wearing Treachery to get Fade and Venom for free. I was thinking to split between +skills and melee mods, like CB. Since we're a bit physical heavy, I could lean on +skills more for some more fire damage. It's probably not too important, and I should just go with whatever's fun.

Some min/maxing incoming: I think we should consider that we don't need two melee characters bringing the same aura via mercs, so if @D2DC uses Faith, I don't need to, and maybe @d2lover should. I can hold Harmony in that case. If we don't need Harmony at all, I can use WWS for some occasional Amp.

@ffs I have some crafted blood gloves that I was going to use since Lifetap would interfere with Decrepify.
 
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AR isn't quite as high as I'd expected, but I also went for 86 FHR because I heart FHR. But she was seems pretty solid, with extra points into maxed Shadow Warrior and Fire Blast to get 7 shots with 1 pt Death Sentry.

Code: 
Name              Char              Build              Area/lvl               Rogue Merc
__________        __________        ___________        _______________        __________
ffs               Fluffy            Bear Sorc          A1 H (84)              Wrath
d2lover           Velocity          WF MS or Strafe    A1 N (1)               'Edge'
Vildecor          Alvarra           Buriza Strafer     A4 NM (61)             Wrath
D2DC              Kouhi             TS/Kicker          A1 H (73)              Faith
PhineasB          Blade             Dual Dream Kicker  A1 H (75)              Ice
snickersnack      Agnesi            Kick/Trapper       A2 NM (47)             Faith, Harmony, WWS?
maxicek           Harley_Quinn      Kick Zeal Zerk     A1 H (77)              Brand or Wrath
 
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Been ready for a while, just finally updating. Will probably nab some more levels before we start.

Code: 
Name              Char              Build              Area/lvl               Rogue Merc
__________        __________        ___________        _______________        __________
ffs               Fluffy            Bear Sorc          A1 H (84)              Wrath
d2lover           Velocity          WF MS or Strafe    A1 N (1)               'Edge'
Vildecor          Alvarra           Buriza Strafer     A1 H (72)              Wrath
D2DC              Kouhi             TS/Kicker          A1 H (73)              Faith
PhineasB          Blade             Dual Dream Kicker  A1 H (75)              Ice
snickersnack      Agnesi            Kick/Trapper       A2 NM (47)             Faith, Harmony, WWS?
maxicek           Harley_Quinn      Kick Zeal Zerk     A1 H (77)              Brand or Wrath
 
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